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I’ll leave the more technical reports to the others but two points dropped is how far we’ve come. We were by far the better team on the day, no question about it.

Their goal is the sort of mistake that will be the making of Mepham, I dare say his boss did the same back in the day. He let it get to him before half time but was fine after the break.

Siad looks quality. I can’t wait for him to start games. Watkins’ took his goal superbly.

Big noise from the away end, that was deathly quiet from the home support, perhaps our play took the wind out of their sails.
 

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Bossed the 1st 20-25mins - maybe should have scored, will have to watch the Maupay chance back as too far for my eyes. Silly mistake for their goal but sure the boys will sort it out between them, IMO not sure why Bentley was out that far but they will learn.

Football from us today was again such a joy to watch, from Josh to Romaine, all the forward play. As above Said does look like he can play and Canos will have to watch his back (in a good way) - shame Josh went off as we both said his passing was quality today, inch perfect all round but you know what? Kamo was also very good when he came on.

Good to see Maupay mixing it and taking no sh*t for their centre backs and keeper

Good bees numbers in attendance, always makes me smile our support - such a wonderful range of supporters!

Felt sorry for the chap who got one on the back of his head pre match - must have hurt!!!

Another good away day - Stoke favourites to win the league before the season...…………. just let that sink in!
 

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Some of the football, especially in the second half, was sublime. The cohesion between the midfield three was brilliant and some of the passing was exquisite. Their goal was a calamity and I think it had more of an effect on Bentley than it did on Mepham and he could have gifted a second soon after. I'm not quite sure where the blame can be piled on Mepham. If a goalkeeper comes outside his penalty area and fails to get the ball, it's his error. Simple.

Going into the game I was a bit concerned about how Konsa would stand up to the test but he was outstanding, I thought. I agree that Maupay looked a bit out of sorts in the first half but after the break he was very good and Benrahma is so quick and incisive. A huge plus for me was how well Mokotjo did when he came on in place of an also impressive McEachran.

All in all, a really enjoyable afternoon.
 

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I'm not quite sure where the blame can be piled on Mepham. If a goalkeeper comes outside his penalty area and fails to get the ball, it's his error. Simple.

It was Mepham's action. But the goalkeeper should be dealing with that or his communication skills taking over to sort the situation.

It's hopefully a case of learn from it & move on.
 

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Forgot to say Konsa - this kid looked unfazed?! against the one of the so called big boys / bullies / favourites? handled it very well today, looked comfortable having the ball and helped get the ball off the line in Stokes 20 mins of play in the 90

I like him
 

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It was Mepham's action. But the goalkeeper should be dealing with that or his communication skills taking over to sort the situation.

It's hopefully a case of learn from it & move on.

Bentley was belting out of his area when Mephan was calmly shepherding it back to him, he was 4-5 yards in front of the attacker so it was meat and drink. However he looked up and eye balled Bentley and still headed it. For me it was 80% keeper and 20% defender but a mistake is a mistake.

NM missed two one on ones today and was just as liable for not winning a a the other two so it’s no big deal.

Battered them today, would have lost that game last year but still feel robbed.
 

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Josh was superb today. Just so typical that he gets a little niggle. Kamo was also very good when he came on. We gave them an absolute football lesson. As my son said “there isn’t one player in their team that you would want in ours”. Tom Ince man of the match - WTF???
 

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Josh was superb today. Just so typical that he gets a little niggle. Kamo was also very good when he came on. We gave them an absolute football lesson. As my son said “there isn’t one player in their team that you would want in ours”. Tom Ince man of the match - WTF???

I’d take Butland all day long.
 

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Josh was superb today. Just so typical that he gets a little niggle. Kamo was also very good when he came on. We gave them an absolute football lesson. As my son said “there isn’t one player in their team that you would want in ours”. Tom Ince man of the match - WTF???

..............didn't realise Ince was playing until the beginning of the second half..............
 

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Local game for me, could have got direct train from local station only 35 mins, but journey to and from station bit too far so thought easier to drive, then found out they run stadium to station buses to avoid fan issues. Doh....

Back to the match, no great surprises that we were unchanged from last week.
For the first 28 mins we were fantastic, driving 1st corner in first minute, spreading the ball confidently and dominating a team that was littered with names you would recognise.
Ex England goalie, welsh captain, Wolves prolific goal scorer, Irish creative attacking midfielder, Paul inces son (about his only claim to fame despite being transferred 2 or 3 times for £10m) and an ex England striker who is 8 foot tall and no doubt others that they have paid top dollar for.
Maupay played through and took too many touches and defender gets a toe in just as he shoots.
Chance after chance but probably without one being gilt edge, but totally in control.
On 28 mins the crowd break into applause for some reason, ball over the top and you see it in slow motion, ball bounces mid our half, Mepham running backwards against the pace of the ball / Bentley runs out from box about to put his head through it, Mepham dinks a header over Bentley for Afobe to have the winning lottery ticket one foot infront of the goal with Christmas presents full of bows, glitter and wrapping paper. For anyone who went to Bradford when they beat us 4-0 with Button sent off, the goal where Craig put the ball over Bonham head, de ja vue....
Final 15 mins of the half we were rattled and a mix up again between Bentley and Mepham gifts Stoke another clear chance to go 2-0 up.

Half time whistle and a sigh of relief.

2nd half, surprised Josh Mc got hooked as I thought he was one of our best players, not his biggest fans but based on last week and first 55 mins, he is looking good. Kamo on and did ok, with Nico on for flagging McLeod made sense and Said for Canos (can see him getting first shout within 5 games, he looks the business).
Stoke take Bojan off and he was one of a few causing any slim problems, within a few seconds Watkins and Maupay connecting with fantastic 1-2 and Ollie drilled great strike first time giving Butland no chance.
Game opened up and both teams pushed for a winner, but neither quite made it.

We were very good and a draw is least we deserved, listened to BBC Stoke on way home with commentators and fans full of admoration of us and saying they were lucky to get a point.

Bentley. Think blame lies with him for goal
Dalsgard. Solid and got forward.
Konsa. Very assured performance.
Mepham. Rattled by the goal and had a tough time with Afobe.
Barbet. Did little wrong and solid throughout.
McCrechran. Another good game and unlucky to be hooked, think he may get first shout until form drops.
Sawyers. Sublime and some of his play was unreal, his vision is unbelievable.
McLeod. Did ok.
Canos. Did ok, had a few chances that he could have done better with.
Ollie. A constant threat whether charging down the wing providing or going for goal, he will have a big season.
Maupay. Bit back to last season, busy did well at times but could not connect on goal when it counted.

Subs.
Was unsure about Kamo / Nico coming on but both did well.

Would have took a point, but disapointed we didn’t get all three but at the end could have gone either way.
Top away day, bring on Blackburn as off to Majorca for 10 days so missing Sheffield Weds, Southend and Villa so see you all st Blackburn.
 
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Josh was superb today. Just so typical that he gets a little niggle. Kamo was also very good when he came on. We gave them an absolute football lesson. As my son said “there isn’t one player in their team that you would want in ours”. Tom Ince man of the match - WTF???

I couldn't believe Ince got that, I don't rate him anyway but he was awful today.
 

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.............think the 28th minute applause was for the local lady found dead in the week..............
 

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I couldn't believe Ince got that, I don't rate him anyway but he was awful today.

MOM is always awarded by the sponsor who is a supporter of the home team, they do not even get the option to give it to an away player. However there were more than a few WTF's when his name was read out.
 

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MOM is always awarded by the sponsor who is a supporter of the home team, they do not even get the option to give it to an away player. However there were more than a few WTF's when his name was read out.

No problem with it being given to a home player but Ince was probably their worst player today, I can't believe anyone watching that game could have given him that award.......unless the sponsor was a Mr P. Ince.
 

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I would go as far as saying that was one of the most significant performances since we have got into the Championship. Stoke were a team full of well known PL players (including England’s number 2 keeper) who, on paper at least, are supposed to be the strongest squad in this division.

All the talk before the game was how their “quality” would come through against us.

We bossed it from the start with some sublime football that just blew them away. They had a decent spell after we gifted them the goal but second half we regrouped and could and should have won it with Butland pulling off all the saves ( did Bentley have any real save to make all game?) as Sawyers, Ollie and co kept splitting their defence apart. Ollie’s goal was the end of move a class apart from anything Stoke could muster. We ended the game on the front foot still attacking their goal as Stoke resorted to trying to get some aimless balls to Crouch’s head.

This was a real marker of our statement of intent.
 
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I would go as far as saying that was one of the most significant performances since we have got into the Championship. Stoke were a team full of well known PL players (including England’s night number 2 keeper) who, on paper at least, are supposed to be the strongest squad in this division.

All the talk before the game was how their “quality” would come through against us.

We bossed it from the start with some sublime football that just blew them away. They had a decent spell after we gifted them the goal but second half we regrouped and could and should have won it with Butland pulling off all the saves ( did Bentley have any real save to make all game?) as Sawyers, Ollie and co kept splitting their defence apart. Ollie’s goal was the end of move a class apart from anything Stoke could muster. We ended the game on the front foot still attacking their goal as Stoke resorted to trying to get some aimless balls to Crouch’s head.

This was a real marker of our statement of intent.

Definitely agree with this. We have moved from going to big teams and trying to nick points or hang in games as teams dominate us to absolutely bossing sides that have come down from the Prem. Today was real evidence of that.
 

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I didn’t realise he was playing at all....until the MOM announcement.😂

Sulky, lazy, brat playing on Daddy’s reputation and Liverpool did well to offload when they did. His transfer fees since are because of his surname not his ability, Palace knew they bought a pup.
 

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Sulky, lazy, brat playing on Daddy’s reputation and Liverpool did well to offload when they did. His transfer fees since are because of his surname not his ability, Palace knew they bought a pup.

Does his dad get a cut of transfer fees like Andy Cole with Devante?
 

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We were very very good. The movement and execution in the first half, with the exception of the goal gifted to Stoke, was quite something to behold.

I’ve said it before many times, I’ll say it again - all our best stuff comes via Romaine “Rolls Royce” Sawyers. I notice others have now started referring to him as that recently; good.

Joint motm until he got a tweak was JM. Outstanding today.

Not quite enough end product. Maupay not quite at it. Nor Mepham again today - again a couple of minor faults on a player possibly destined for the upper half of the EPL one day.

Sergi can be a bit expensive in defence and selfish in attack; I’d love to see Watkins just let rip with a shot every time he’s in sight of goal.

All in all a superb point but it’s testament to Deano and co that we’re gutted not to have got all 3.
 
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First 20 minutes or so we were in fire. Lost a bit of cohesion after gifting them their goal but we still played the football. Second half we went in search of the equaliser and, having got it, looked the more likely to win.
Sawyers was immense all game. McLeod and Josh also had excellent games and need to now convert that into 90 minutes. The subs all did well, slotting in and maintaining momentum.
 

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We were very very good. The movement and execution in the first half, with the exception of the goal gifted to Stoke, was quite something to behold.

I’ve said it before many times, I’ll say it again - all our best stuff comes via Romaine “Rolls Royce” Sawyers. I notice others have now started referring to him as that recently; good.

Joint motm until he got a tweak was JM. Outstanding today.

Not quite enough end product. Maupay not quite at it. Nor Mepham again today - again a couple of minor faults on a player possibly destined for the upper half of the EPL one day.

Sergi can be a bit expensive in defence and selfish in attack; I’d love to see Watkins just let rip with a shot every time he’s in sight of goal.

All in all a superb point but it’s testament to Deano and co that we’re gutted not to have got all 3.
 

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says how far we've come that we're rueing missing two points against a recently relegated premier league side. and with good reason.

bossed it for half an hour but crucially, weren't clinical like last week and then the worst goal i've ever seen, it was like slow motion car crash stuff. and it knocked the stuffing out them understandably.

but i think he gave them a team talk and ollie for us back into it with a super strike. shame we couldn't go on for the deserved win but there you go.
 

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I’d have taken a point before kick-off, but walking away I almost felt robbed that we hadn’t taken all 3.

We absolutely dominated them for the first half an hour or so...until their calamitous goal. Not sure if it was due to the unfortunate nature of it, but it really seemed to knock our confidence and do wonders for theirs. We looked a bit shaky and if anything I think we were the most grateful to see half-time.

But credit where it’s due, we started the second half the way we started the first and didn’t let up for the rest of the game. Their desperation was summed up by Rowett taking off Bojan for Etebo with 25 minutes to go and trying to cling onto a 1-0 win.

We then got our much deserved goal and as they’d already shut up shop by then, they didn’t really know what to do. I was admittedly a bit worried that them bringing on Crouch would cause us some problems, but I don’t recall him even having a shot. We looked dangerous with nearly every move towards the end however and on another day we’d have scored 3.

Nearly everyone deserves a mention. Some of our passing was sumptuous and everyone really did seem to be on the same wavelength. I’ll give a special mention to Josh McEachran though as he doesn’t often get much praise on here. He absolutely ran the show until he was taken off and seemed to be able to pluck the ball from anywhere and get our attack moving again.
 

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I can’t disagree with too much that has been written in the previous posts. Excluding 3 seconds, today was probably one of the most sublime, complete and entertaining “performances” :) that I have had the pleasure of watching at a football ground.

This can only have given the team confidence that they can not only mix it with the favourites in this league but hang them out to dry too.

Some more big names to put to the sword in the next few weeks. Think the next club that we play that does not have some claim to major success is Bristol City in late October. We have to make sure that we stay fully behind this young, talented squad of players and give them the support that they deserve.

See you all next Sunday for another confident and inspiring performance from our young guns.
 

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The Bees came to thebet365 stadium today and gave a performance that at times dazzled and showed the Championship that Rovrum was no fluke and that the Top Six is not only the aim but the mission.

Smiths unchanged XI high pressed Stoke in the first 15, Sawyers the conductor in the middle and orchestrator in chief always easy on the eye played a midfield tune that hummed, Josh McE was in support, threading passes down alleys and channels whilst Joe Allen, Ince and Shawcross played mannequins as our skilful duo with Lewis Mac drifted through.

The high press was in full throttle Watkins pickpocketed a lumbering Shawcross and Maupay was away, one on one, Bruno caught our Frenchman as the trigger was being pulled. The warning signs were there. We passed and moved whilst Stoke huffed and puffed. 24,000 in the ground saw the team in chocolate and orange give their team a footballing lesson.

Watkins clear in the area, Maupay in the way, Canos shot from 20 But,and down to save, Maupay through again 1 on 1 Butland out quick Neal dinked wide, Rowett windmilled from the side, whilst Smith arms folded thought like us it’s just when not if.

A ball over the top and Bentley in his Neuer impression sprinted towards Mepham, Chris with Afobe breathing down his neck saw Dan hurtling desperately towards him, Meps seeing the whites of our keepers eyes hesitated then nodded the ball over Bentley whilst Afobe rushed on to the ball and sidefooted into the net 1 nil a house of horrors from our two stars.

Whilst we shook our heads, Bentley had a 10 minute wobble pawing at crosses and coming then staying as Bauer fired them in from the right. In the middle of the defence Konsa came in to his own, a huge header clearing under pressure and then one off the line our new boy from Charlton looked even better than last week.

Second half we continued to play the football Sergi shot Butland pushed low into the side netting, Josh McE went lame and grimaced then carried on Smith and OKelly put Kamo straight on - Josh looked miffed a fine 60, a great start to the season, maybe Smith will tell Josh this week keep it up, but just man up if he wants to stay on, he’s going to be a player this season if he gets the injury fairies out of his head.

Kamo was no weak point he took us forward, more interplay between Maupay and Ollie and Watkins hit a howitzer arrowed into Butlands left hand corner. The 1390 Bees exploded into joy as Ollies crackerjack was the least we deserved.

Nico and Benrahma on for Sergi and Lewis it was good subs - Said is not far off a start a lovely right wing cross forced Butland to palm away. More flowing interplay and Watkins cut in and forced a fantastic save from Butland.
Bees were going for Stokes throat and the Potters were looking fragile - Crouch came on and Mepham marshalled it typified the teams - Crouch mid thirties on thousands - Mepham 21 on a few dollars less - one team on the slide - one on the up. Whistle blown and the Bees were applauded off.

It’s on days like this you know how far we have come, playing Villa two seasons ago, we played well and got a 1-1 early season and said we earn our place in the Championship, today we played Stoke away after 10 seasons in the premiership and really pulled their football pants down and came away a little unlucky with a 1-1.

The season is up and running, we showed character to come back from a self inflicted wound, Stoke may not be much at the mo, but they will later in the season, their playing list is just too good to not come good but they are no better than us and at times they couldn’t cope with our movement.

Smith will be happy enough tonight - our side has played well in both games, 4 points in 2 games we needed 9 games to get past that mark last season - there really isn’t a weak link and the team is growing. Konsa looked as good as Mepham today and Said a real find. The future may not be chocolate and orange but it’s rosy red and white. The Bees are the best watch in town and we all have the ticket. A bit of Cup fun at the beach Tuesday and then Wednesday on a Sunday. It’s good to be back watching this team.
 
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The Bees came to thebet365 stadium today and gave a performance that at times dazzled and showed the Championship that Rovrum was no fluke and that the Top Six is not only the aim but the mission.

Smiths unchanged XI high pressed Stoke in the first 15, Sawyers the conductor in the middle and orchestrator in chief always easy on the eye played a midfield tune that hummed, Josh McE was in support, threading passes down alleys and channels whilst Joe Allen, Ince and Shawcross played mannequins as our skilful duo with Lewis Mac drifted through.

The high press was in full throttle Watkins pickpocketed a lumbering Shawcross and Maupay was away, one on one, Bruno caught our Frenchman as the trigger was being pulled. The warning signs were there. We passed and moved whilst Stoke huffed and puffed. 24,000 in the ground saw the team in chocolate and orange give their team a footballing lesson.

Watkins clear in the area, Maupay in the way, Canos shot from 20 But,and down to save, Maupay through again 1 on 1 Butland out quick Neal dinked wide, Rowett windmilled from the side, whilst Smith arms folded thought like us it’s just when not if.

A ball over the top and Bentley in his Neuer impression sprinted towards Mepham, Chris with Afobe breathing down his neck saw Dan hurtling desperately towards him, Meps seeing the whites of our keepers eyes hesitated then nodded the ball over Bentley whilst Afobe rushed on to the ball and sidefooted into the net 1 nil a house of horrors from our two stars.

Whilst we shook our heads, Bentley had a 10 minute wobble pawing at crosses and coming then staying as Bauer fired them in from the right. In the middle of the defence Konsa came in to his own, a huge header clearing under pressure and then one off the line our new boy from Charlton looked even better than last week.

Second half we continued to play the football Sergi shot Butland pushed low into the side netting, Josh McE went lame and grimaced then carried on Smith and OKelly put Kamo straight on - Josh looked miffed a fine 60, a great start to the season, maybe Smith will tell Josh this week keep it up, but just man up if he wants to stay on, he’s going to be a player this season if he gets the injury fairies out of his head.

Kamo was no weak point he took us forward, more interplay between Maupay and Ollie and Watkins hit a howitzer arrowed into Butlands left hand corner. The 1390 Bees exploded into joy as Ollies crackerjack was the least we deserved.

Nico and Benrahma on for Sergi and Lewis it was good subs - Said is not far off a start a lovely right wing cross forced Butland to palm away. More flowing interplay and Watkins cut in and forced a fantastic save from Butland.
Bees were going for Stokes throat and the Potters were looking fragile - Crouch came on and Mepham marshalled it typified the teams - Crouch mid thirties on thousands - Mepham 21 on a few dollars less - one team on the slide - one on the up. Whistle blown and the Bees were applauded off.

It’s on days like this you know how far we have come, playing Villa two seasons ago, we played well and got a 1-1 early season and said we earn our place in the Championship, today we played Stoke away after 10 seasons in the premiership and really pulled their football pants down and came away a little unlucky with a 1-1.

The season is up and running, we showed character to come back from a self inflicted wound, Stoke may not be much at the mo, but they will later in the season, their playing list is just too good to not come good but they are no better than us and at times they couldn’t cope with our movement.

Smith will be happy enough tonight - our side has played well in both games, 4 points in 2 games we needed 9 games to get past that mark last season - there really isn’t a weak link and the team is growing. Konsa looked as good as Mepham today and Said a real find. The future may not be chocolate and orange but it’s rosy red and white. The Bees are the best watch in town and we all have the ticket. A bit of Cup fun at the beach Tuesday and then Wednesday on a Sunday. It’s good to be back watching this team.

‘kin ell Mick, that may just be your best. Thank you
 
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I wasn’t at the game but I had a look at the stoke forums earlier and they are very complementary about us - quality on the Ball, movement and playing as a team
 

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I've only watched a 3 minute highlight and could only really take two things away from it player wise, Neal Maupay struggled in the first half and should have put us ahead when he was through on goal but allowed the defender to catch him up. Second is Ollie Watkins is going to be a phenomenal player this season, Premier League quality strike that was.
 

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I've only watched a 3 minute highlight and could only really take two things away from it player wise, Neal Maupay struggled in the first half and should have put us ahead when he was through on goal but allowed the defender to catch him up. Second is Ollie Watkins is going to be a phenomenal player this season, Premier League quality strike that was.

So in a three minute video you deduced Maupay struggled and Ollie is phenomenal. You might want to think about becoming an agent or a journalist with that ability.
 

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I've only watched a 3 minute highlight and could only really take two things away from it player wise, Neal Maupay struggled in the first half and should have put us ahead when he was through on goal but allowed the defender to catch him up. Second is Ollie Watkins is going to be a phenomenal player this season, Premier League quality strike that was.

Maupay didn't struggle he just fluffed his 2 first half chances. He got into good positions linked the play well with the other forwards and was generally a menace to the centre backs.
 

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I might be controversial here, but seeing the highlights only, a proper centre forward puts the chances away that Maupay didn't. Could be the difference between top 2 and top 6. Don't get me wrong I love the guy but that's the fine margins we're playing with this year I think
 

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I might be controversial here, but seeing the highlights only, a proper centre forward puts the chances away that Maupay didn't. Could be the difference between top 2 and top 6. Don't get me wrong I love the guy but that's the fine margins we're playing with this year I think

.......proper strikers miss chances as well.
 

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Maupay didn't struggle he just fluffed his 2 first half chances. He got into good positions linked the play well with the other forwards and was generally a menace to the centre backs.

Agree with that. He had a good game constantly pulling their defence around and working hard to get into good positions against PL experienced defenders. He is becoming more like Vibe in how he helps creates space for others. A tough game rather than a poor one.
 

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Agree with that. He had a good game constantly pulling their defence around and working hard to get into good positions against PL experienced defenders. He is becoming more like Vibe in how he helps creates space for others. A tough game rather than a poor one.

Exactly, especially second half played a blinder. If he were more consistent he probably wouldn't be at Brentford. When he becomes consistent, will be worth a lot to the club and im certain will be another large transfer fee. Disapointed he missed those chances yesterday but as someone else said, he's as liable to just a point as Mepham and Bentley so move on.
 

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Apart from our excellent passing and control of the game, I thought the key thing to emerge was our resilience. I think in the past couple of seasons we would have gone on to lose that comfortably, but in the second half we reasserted control and were unfortunate not to win. No idea why Bentley chose to race from his area when Mepham was always going to get to that ball first, and no idea why Mepham headed it past him (presumably he wanted to head it at him but got it wrong). Otherwise I thought Mepham was good, as was Konsa.
 

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Josh was superb today. Just so typical that he gets a little niggle. Kamo was also very good when he came on. We gave them an absolute football lesson. As my son said “there isn’t one player in their team that you would want in ours”. Tom Ince man of the match - WTF???

I’d like Afobe but we haven’t got £12m to spend.
 

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It's so true. We play better football than Man Utd. Some of the skill, touches and confidence from our midfield players were sublime. We totally outclassed them. Josh, Sawyers, McLeod and even Mojito when he came on in the second half played some scintillating football. Anyone with a few quid to spare should come and see us play, cos we play some of the bestest football out there. An absolute joy to behold. Put away our chances away and we will definitely be in the Premier League. We outplayed Stoke City at their place and out unsung them. I love my club.
 

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From where I was standing Stoke reminded me of a slow and ageing boxer against a younger faster and eager up coming champion .......we were excellent today.
 
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