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Sergi doesn’t seem to be defensively aware, he played a blind pass from left back position straight to a central Wycombe player when it was 1-1
 

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Really quiet at the moment, precious little in the way of rumours even. Are we waiting until Benhrama is sorted before moving or are things just not coming off?
 

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Really quiet at the moment, precious little in the way of rumours even. Are we waiting until Benhrama is sorted before moving or are things just not coming off?
Yes
 

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Really quiet at the moment, precious little in the way of rumours even. Are we waiting until Benhrama is sorted before moving or are things just not coming off?
Im very surprised by the lack of incomings during the last 6 weeks. Not being ready to start the season clearly cost us last season, I didnt expect us to be in the same position this year. We still need at least 2/3 players for the first team squad.
 

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Im very surprised by the lack of incomings during the last 6 weeks. Not being ready to start the season clearly cost us last season, I didnt expect us to be in the same position this year. We still need at least 2/3 players for the first team squad.
I think with not knowing till late on which league we would be in prevented some early negotiations happening. But I also think the whole market apart from some few clubs have been very quiet
 

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Loan RB, defensive midfielder and Benrahma replacement are the 3 areas for me and ideally sorted asap so they can bed in
 

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Im very surprised by the lack of incomings during the last 6 weeks. Not being ready to start the season clearly cost us last season, I didnt expect us to be in the same position this year. We still need at least 2/3 players for the first team squad.
We didnt know what league we would be in. I would imagine that has put a delay on any dealings.
 

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I can't see us buying just to cover injury. I believe if buying in developmental players who have the potential to be better than we have isn't possible, we will bring in a B team player, or shift another to cover. Sometime it becomes a Brucie ... sometimes.
 

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I can't see us buying just to cover injury. I believe if buying in developmental players who have the potential to be better than we have isn't possible, we will bring in a B team player, or shift another to cover. Sometime it becomes a Brucie ... sometimes.
I think TF has already set out his stall on RB. If Dalsgaard is unavailable while Roerslev is injured we switch Henry there and play Thompson LB. Or we play 3 CBs.
 

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Im very surprised by the lack of incomings during the last 6 weeks. Not being ready to start the season clearly cost us last season, I didnt expect us to be in the same position this year. We still need at least 2/3 players for the first team squad.
Completely different situation to last season though. We had so many players bedding in last time, and Watkins just starting out as CF. Plus, the old system that was a hangover from the season before was a big part of the problem.

This year we've got the backbone of the side intact, with a year playing together, and when/if Raya comes back and the Said situation is sorted I'd say first team wise we're looking very good. A bit more back up would be nice, but it's not the same as August last year, IMO.
 

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Am I the only one who thinks we will make a surprise signing on a player that has not been linked with us? I just have this gut feeling that we maybe are negotiating on players not on the radar. I obviously could be completely wrong.
 

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Am I the only one who thinks we will make a surprise signing on a player that has not been linked with us? I just have this gut feeling that we maybe are negotiating on players not on the radar. I obviously could be completely wrong.
well we did with Goode? Think the first rumour came out about 15mins before it was announced!
 

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I think TF has already set out his stall on RB. If Dalsgaard is unavailable while Roerslev is injured we switch Henry there and play Thompson LB. Or we play 3 CBs.
yes I think that is the plan with Thompson and Rico. Thompson the club believe in And can see why now he has been with club for a year, which seems to be the norm for players coming from Arsenal (although with Arteta there now and his style of play can see that changing). Rico whilst in some respects not as effective on the right it does have the advantage, as he is such a quick attacking full back, that when he is in the final third he can cut inside onto his favored left foot and get a shot away which most teams will find difficult to defend against.
Any right back we bring in has to be better than both Dalsgaard now or what we believe Roerslev will very shortly develop into. A tough ask unless they can also compete in another position.

Not sure why the Club doesn’t seem to be pursuing a cover for the defensive midfield position. Am assuming the injured Mads they think is going to be the real deal and that we can, in absence of Norgaard, change the formation slightly perming from Jensen, Da Silva, Baptiste, Marcondes and Zamburek. Having said that with Mokotjo and Yearwood having left one would think we would look for one more central midfielder, but we may believe Maghoma will soon be competing for a first team squad number although that seems a year away? Ultimately the Club will have it all figured out
 

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yes I think that is the plan with Thompson and Rico. Thompson the club believe in And can see why now he has been with club for a year, which seems to be the norm for players coming from Arsenal (although with Arteta there now and his style of play can see that changing). Rico whilst in some respects not as effective on the right it does have the advantage, as he is such a quick attacking full back, that when he is in the final third he can cut inside onto his favored left foot and get a shot away which most teams will find difficult to defend against.
Any right back we bring in has to be better than both Dalsgaard now or what we believe Roerslev will very shortly develop into. A tough ask unless they can also compete in another position.

Not sure why the Club doesn’t seem to be pursuing a cover for the defensive midfield position. Am assuming the injured Mads they think is going to be the real deal and that we can, in absence of Norgaard, change the formation slightly perming from Jensen, Da Silva, Baptiste, Marcondes and Zamburek. Having said that with Mokotjo and Yearwood having left one would think we would look for one more central midfielder, but we may believe Maghoma will soon be competing for a first team squad number although that seems a year away? Ultimately the Club will have it all figured out
I think the club’s team, squad and player development approach is rather more fluid than we sometimes credit. I don’t think it is as straightforward as just having a set formation with players slotted into a particular role and an understudy groomed for each starter with a couple of B teamers competing to be the next to step up. That’s why I don’t think we are tied to getting someone to be the next Benrahma but instead will evolve to play to the strengths of whoever plays the

Maghoma does seem to be tipped to take over from Norgaard when he moves on but it isn’t the only option. I think Zamburek might be able to do it even if so far he’s been played as a more attacking midfielder.

Just because 433 was so successful last season and fits the current squad doesn’t mean it is immutable. TF moved us out of it to play 3 CBs after his horrific start because we didn’t have the players to play 433 effectively in 18-19. We have in Goode and Sorensen two very good CBs so if we lose Norgaard and Maghoma (or one of the other midfielders eg Jensen or a new player) aren’t right for a straight swap there may be justification for a formation using what we have in their preferred areas which wouldn’t need a shielding CDM in front.

It is notable that we already move to something like 3 at the back when pushing on in the last 20 minutes of games. We did it when trying to claw back a result v Stoke and Barnsley (IIRC even putting Norgaard back as a makeshift CB in one of those games) . Somewhat more surprisingly we did it when 2-0 up against Southampton as Henry came on and played much more forward than Thompson did while Dalsgaard tucked in with Goode and Sorensen. I think we’ll see more of that fluidity in formation in the back end of games this season and it’ll make us less predictable and give us a plan B.

If I’m not completely off beam this will also mean that we don’t get an obvious Norgaard Mk2 unless someone great happens to be discovered. That makes some sense when you consider how long it took to find him and how relatively ineffective in that role decent players like Woods, Sawyers and Mokotjo were. Sawyers only truly shone on a consistent basis once we dispensed with the need for him or any other midfielder
to play where Norgaard does.
 

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Right! Now we've finally got the Ghoddos deal done and dusted we can crack on with bringing some random RB and DM in from the lower leagues somewhere!!
 

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We are very light in the DM position.
 

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ok! Any particular reason?
Stuff on a FB Site doing the rounds about a person wearing Sochaux top, not that many people in Ealing wear those, being seen with a guy in Brentford gear on Ealing Road today. Matches the description apparently according to a number of my crowd. Could be rubbish though. I’ve never heard of a club called Sochaux, League 2 apparently, but then I’d never heard of Chamois Niort either. The guy could be a Brentford left field signing.
 
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Is there a reason that a thread wasn't started on him?
 

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Is there a reason that a thread wasn't started on him?
Maybe because this one actually has a genuine chance of coming here. The world & his wife seem to have had a thread started in recent weeks with the most tenuous of links (sometimes less than that!)
 

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Surely we're looking at getting a short term fix at full back? We're an injury or suspension away from trouble.

Henrik needs managing and Thompson hasn't played the Tuesday Saturday Tuesday Saturday slog of the championship.
 

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Surely we're looking at getting a short term fix at full back? We're an injury or suspension away from trouble.

Henrik needs managing and Thompson hasn't played the Tuesday Saturday Tuesday Saturday slog of the championship.
But what is a "short term fix"? At best a loan for 3 months, and who's really available on that basis?

I believe it goes Thursday Sunday 13-day break for the near future, anyway. No need to panic :)
 
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If we sell Benrahma, Im still hoping for a couple of additions. DM cover and an upgrade on Jenson and Marcondes. The second is unlikely I know.
 

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Still too quiet for my liking.

Want at least two more. A DM and RB for the squad.
 

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i suspect we won’t get a new RB as Roerslev will be back before they’ve had a chance to settle in.. have been linked to a couple of DMs so hopefully we get that done.
I think that's all we need just so CN can have a rest now and then or if god forbid he gets injured.
 

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Not strikers please magic. We've got more than we've ever had now.
Very happy with the two we have thanks. The position Ive wanted us to improve in was the Jenson/Marcondes position. Ive felt all summer that was the position we needed to improve. Last Season I bet you and I would have agreed on 10 of the 11 starting players in the play off final without thinking. Just my views Ruislip, but Im not sure even if TF knows his best player in that role.
 

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It's clearly Jensen with Marcondes as rotation.
yep, with Baptiste and Zamburek also available to fill that slot. Very well covered in midfield (aside from DM backup). We're in a much better position there than the last few seasons I feel. People seem to have written Jensen off based on an awful 5 minutes at Birmingham but he's absolute quality and Marcondes is a more than able back up..
 

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yep, with Baptiste and Zamburek also available to fill that slot. Very well covered in midfield (aside from DM backup). We're in a much better position there than the last few seasons I feel. People seem to have written Jensen off based on an awful 5 minutes at Birmingham but he's absolute quality and Marcondes is a more than able back up..
I generally agree with a great deal of what you say MC, however Jensen for me is like a classic sports car, sends shivers of excitement down your spine occasionally but doesn’t work very well the majority of the time and you worry it’s going to fall apart at a critical moment. You fear it’s taking up space in the garage something more reliable should be using but hope you can come to rely on it more because those shivers are almost worth it.
 

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I generally agree with a great deal of what you say MC, however Jensen for me is like a classic sports car, sends shivers of excitement down your spine occasionally but doesn’t work very well the majority of the time and you worry it’s going to fall apart at a critical moment. You fear it’s taking up space in the garage something more reliable should be using but hope you can come to rely on it more because those shivers are almost worth it.
Generally agree, but still hopeful here - he did alright in his first season, and may come on leaps and bounds in year two...
 

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I generally agree with a great deal of what you say MC, however Jensen for me is like a classic sports car, sends shivers of excitement down your spine occasionally but doesn’t work very well the majority of the time and you worry it’s going to fall apart at a critical moment. You fear it’s taking up space in the garage something more reliable should be using but hope you can come to rely on it more because those shivers are almost worth it.
That is an amazingly Alan Partridge like extended metaphor. Also I do not think it is correct. Jensen was a key player in a squad that just failed to get promoted and with a bit of luck would have. He is not a luxury player but an excellently gifted and hard working midfielder.
 

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That is an amazingly Alan Partridge like extended metaphor. Also I do not think it is correct. Jensen was a key player in a squad that just failed to get promoted and with a bit of luck would have. He is not a luxury player but an excellently gifted and hard working midfielder.
It would have been spot on for McEachran but not for Jensen.
 

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I generally agree with a great deal of what you say MC, however Jensen for me is like a classic sports car, sends shivers of excitement down your spine occasionally but doesn’t work very well the majority of the time and you worry it’s going to fall apart at a critical moment. You fear it’s taking up space in the garage something more reliable should be using but hope you can come to rely on it more because those shivers are almost worth it.
I think that's a bit harsh, he's been inconsistent yes but most players we've brought in from abroad have taken a little while to adjust to the Championship, you get the odd exception like Norgaard/Mbuemo but generally most players hit the ground running in their second season (even home grown players like JDS). He seems to have been written off by many because of a bit of a disastrous 5 mins at Birmingham. As Pontus showed on Sat, that can happen to anyone if they're not bang on it at the start of a game and I think he can really show what he's about this season given full fitness and a run of games. If he can pull out performances like the 2nd leg v Swansea on a more regular basis then we'll be laughing..
 

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I agree Jensen was fantastic in the 2nd leg v Swansea, but I wish I knew why that was. Did Swansea not press him at all or was it something else. The worst thing about watching games on tv, is you dont get a chance to look beyond the screen. Maybe they put an extra player on Said, giving Jensen the chance to shine.
 

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I agree Jensen was fantastic in the 2nd leg v Swansea, but I wish I knew why that was. Did Swansea not press him at all or was it something else. The worst thing about watching games on tv, is you dont get a chance to look beyond the screen. Maybe they put an extra player on Said, giving Jensen the chance to shine.
Thought this was the Summer 2020 transfer window thread?
 

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After today please can we sign a right back and somebody better than Jenson and Marcondes. I just dont know what the later 2 do.
 

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After today please can we sign a right back and somebody better than Jenson and Marcondes. I just dont know what the later 2 do.
Totally agree! They offer very little, Jenson reminds me of josh macechran Arghhhhh....Offers little and marcondes really not much better. I've tried and tried to always back marcondes but we need added steel in midfield. Scary how weak we look without Norgaard. Shambles from the time he went off
 

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