Tarkowski Refusal to Play - Not Available for Leeds Game

Tarkowski's Future

  • Can never play for BFC again.

    Votes: 276 34.3%
  • Can only play for BFC after a public apology to management, teammates and fans

    Votes: 472 58.7%
  • Straight back in the team for PNE

    Votes: 32 4.0%
  • I don't care.

    Votes: 24 3.0%

  • Total voters
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The joke for me was Sean Dyche's comments about how they try to do their business in private. Claiming they didn't make it public suggesting that someone else did. It would hardly be brentford doing that so it must have been someone connected to burnley
 

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Silly silly boy, now has a reputation that will go with him wherever he plays that he will refuse to play in order to force a move

Dangerous precedent if we now accept a paltry fee for him as it is showing any other players in the future how they can force a move

I believe that we cannot refuse to let him train at the club but we can insist he trains on his own, certainly don't want him mixing with the kids

Tough decisions for MB but this now is not just about money instead principle and standards are on the line.

Personally think he should be kept on until the Summer but not involved with any of the teams, at that point we put him on the transfer list and accept whatever we can get, appreciate this is the expensive option but, passion aside, we cannot be seen to have our hand forced
 

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yes; agree he would probably be a bad influence on them. Burnley should ask themselves before spending good money on him, he does that to Brentford he could do probably to Burnley.

Unless they pay what we want for him, we should say no all the way. They'll soon forget about him and move on to a different player. Let him be forgotten
 

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But if we rot him in the reserves, that could send out a powerful "don't come here klaxon" to aspiring young players
 

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Silly silly boy, now has a reputation that will go with him wherever he plays that he will refuse to play in order to force a move

Dangerous precedent if we now accept a paltry fee for him as it is showing any other players in the future how they can force a move

I believe that we cannot refuse to let him train at the club but we can insist he trains on his own, certainly don't want him mixing with the kids

Tough decisions for MB but this now is not just about money instead principle and standards are on the line.

Personally think he should be kept on until the Summer but not involved with any of the teams, at that point we put him on the transfer list and accept whatever we can get, appreciate this is the expensive option but, passion aside, we cannot be seen to have our hand forced
On his own literally
No coaches, no fitness coaches and give him a beachball
 

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But if we rot him in the reserves, that could send out a powerful "don't come here klaxon" to aspiring young players
I think it sends out the message that you can't take the piss. We don't stand in the way of players moving on but it is when our valuation is met. That is not unreasonable
 

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But if we rot him in the reserves, that could send out a powerful "don't come here klaxon" to aspiring young players

Not at all.

We already have a fair and good reputation that if valuation is met we will never stand in the way of a move .

In this case a clear message needs to be out we wont be mugged off
 

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Good to see his true colors,MB will know how to deal with him !
 

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Like everyone, I am disgusted by his actions and as a Bee of 55 years this is a first. I am personally offended as I love this club and only other Bees know what it feels like, we are a unique bunch. We differ, bicker and say dumb things but when it comes to our club no one can match a true Bee. I make the 4,500 mile each way trip at least 2 times a season, sponsor Jota's shirt and am rarely seems out socially without Bees garb. I am over for 3 games in April and cant wait, in fact get tears in my eyes thinking about such is my love (as most of us feel) for this beautiful effing club. Sacrifices are made, scrimping and scratching to get to games and if need be go without stuff just to see our Bees. This is what makes Tarks's actions so reprehensible because he is essentially spitting in the faces of everyone of us. I hope that the club not only make him see out his contract but also take legal action and while at it make a formal complaint with the FA and have Burnley exposed for their totally lack of ethics and forever have Mr Dyche's name forever mispronounced
 

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Sadly I think you might be mistaken.
. You might be right, but,, thankfully this sort of thing seems very rare and, as an ex footballer himself, I can't help but think Dyche would take a hard line if he encountered anything similar and would not reward it now. Of course, we'll see.
 

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Nice touch on the fans remembrance night you utter ****candle, I for one hope that which ever club you end up at don't get promotion then we can look forward to welcoming you back next season!
 

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Alternatively if he is citing wanting to be back near his family up up north...then set up a loan deal to Bolton for the rest of the season!

As part of a deal for first option on some of some of their players...
 
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I presume Wart Kiosk is being advised by someone. DS said he has been misguided. Who by I wonder. I can't see his own agent or even Burnley being that stupid. If he didn't want to play he could have feigned an injury but he has thrown down the gauntlet and made a statement. Brentford have reacted by taking disciplinary action which will remain confidential. That could be in the form of a fine or preferably detention where he has to write down the name of every supporter who attended tonights game and apologise. I can't help but wonder what would have happened if the "I don't want to play" conversation had been with a certain Mr. Allen.
 

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Same difference..but in theory protects MB's return, and makes Tarky a bit more uncomfortable...and he can't really refuse to play for them too as his reputation would be properly in tatters! It's one thing making an error of judgement once, but refusing to play for another club would start impacting on his perceived desire to make it as a top footballer
Maybe true but his ego has been on full display. He believes he is above brentford and wants to engineer a move to a team that he believes have a chance of making it to the premier league. His exposure playing for FCM could be less to clubs for EPL status so on his current form he would just refuse imo. I believe and hope MB will stick to his guns. Players have been allowed to move on when our valuation has been met and that is what we sell BFC on to these players. We don't stand in anyone's way when the valuation has been met. We are not asking for ridiculous sums of money for him. His reputation is already tarnished and I reckon he has stitched himself if the Burnley transfer falls through. Trying to think about it pragmatically and I think Burnley will offer the asking price eventually like they did with gray once they realise we won't back down. If not tarky is screwed.
 

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Do you think he will enter the hall of (in)fame?(y) :fishing:

Seriously though, contrast with :Owusu: and :Kingkev: who were introduced at h/t
 
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Tarkowski (noun)

1.a person who betrays his or her own football club by aiding an opposing club through refusing to play for his employer, often serving later in said other club, or any other entity offering more cash and/or bling.

2. Unacceptable behaviour (e.g. 'the accused was found guilty at Brentford Magistrates of stealing the poor box from St. Benham's. Previous convictions include stealing a Mr Bjelland's mobility scooter and kicking a dog belonging to a Mr Cliff Crown).

3. Vulgar term for female genitalia (e.g. "and the English fans are, as one, chanting that Maradona is 'a Tarkowski' (Jimmy Hill, World Cup 1986)).
 

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The joke for me was Sean Dyche's comments about how they try to do their business in private. Claiming they didn't make it public suggesting that someone else did. It would hardly be brentford doing that so it must have been someone connected to burnley

Frank McParland?
 

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I thought he had joined MW at Glasgow Rangers.

Nah he went to Burnley, hence why they are very unimaginative and try to sign all our players

May also be how they got Darikwa since we were closely linked during his tenure here
 

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Maybe true but his ego has been on full display. He believes he is above brentford and wants to engineer a move to a team that he believes have a chance of making it to the premier league. His exposure playing for FCM could be less to clubs for EPL status so on his current form he would just refuse imo. I believe and hope MB will stick to his guns. Players have been allowed to move on when our valuation has been met and that is what we sell BFC on to these players. We don't stand in anyone's way when the valuation has been met. We are not asking for ridiculous sums of money for him. His reputation is already tarnished and I reckon he has stitched himself if the Burnley transfer falls through. Trying to think about it pragmatically and I think Burnley will offer the asking price eventually like they did with gray once they realise we won't back down. If not tarky is screwed.

Realistically, you are probably right...although I'm not 100% convinced Burnley will stretch to our valuation given Dyche's comments over the last few weeks, and also that clubs overall philosophy (which isn't too far removed from our own)!

I think there is a very real possibility that Tarky is screwed, unless MB and his team save his bacon with their negotiations.
 

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Nah he went to Burnley, hence why they are very unimaginative and try to sign all our players

May also be how they got Darikwa since we were closely linked during his tenure here

Brentford to Burnley last May then five months later to Glasgow Rs
 

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We may be forced to offload him for less than the £5m we wanted, but I would suggest that if Burnley still want him, the price to them is still £5m. Anyone else can have him for less, but not them under any circumstances.
 

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Are you reading these posts Mr Tarkowski? Do you feel ashamed? Do you wish you had kept your mouth shut. I reckon all Brentford fans would like an answer to these questions.
 

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Fine him two weeks wages.

Tell him he's not going anywhere unless the price is right.

Leave him out of the team (think De Gea).

Review on 31st January.

Never deal with his agent again.
 

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Rot in the stiffs for 18 months you spoilt *****!!
See ya tarks!!
€€€€€€€
 

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His ill-advised decision to miss that game has probably put him into the same bracket as Martin Rowlands. If he does go to Burnley, I just hope he takes spot-kick duties off Gray. Diana Ross takes a better penalty.

Before yesterday afternoon, I could see Burnley as a good move for him. Not far from his 'Manc' home. A club who, as much as I hate to say, are looking at the right kind of players to succeed in the longer-term (also reported to be interested in @thatwalsallleftback). Now though, I don't see he can wear the shirt again and I daresay if his new team (be it Burnley, Bolton, Fleetwood, FCM or Bournemouth) ever visit Griffin Park, he'll probably ask to miss that one too.

Some footballers go through personal difficulties which mean they need to miss games. I understand that and sympathise with them. The way this has become a 'disciplinary' matter though suggests it is just a case of a spoilt little individual sh*tting on the people who have paid his (already too high) wages. In a way I hope I'm wrong and there is more to it but it will be interesting to read/listen to Tarkowski comments in the near future.
 

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Arsewipe - **** - dickhead - ungrateful ****ing knob - enjoy your next visit to GP / LR - but I have no doubt you will be "injured" when that time comes - absolute ****ing ****
 

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What have the stiffs done to deserve being tainted by having to associate with this Judas?
Quite simply, he is no longer fit to wear the shirt. At any level.
Should be relegated to boot & bog cleaning duties and to train on his own until someone stupid enough to employ him can be found.
And it has to be anywhere but Burnley.
 

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When II first heard about this last nightnight my first impressions were to get shot of him straight away. But after a few thoughts, and if we can afford to, I would make him train on his own and play with the Development squad for the remainder of his contract. Who the **** does he think he is??? What an absolute sCUNTthorpe.
 

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Massive mistake from the player, it seems. Deserves some stick but I'm already becoming a tad uncomfortable with the level of vitriol, given we have only heard one side of the story. Realise I'll be in a minority... A very small one... Of maybe one.
 

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anyone know who is agent is? and if any other bees player has same agent?
 

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Frank McParland?

I thought he had joined MW at Glasgow Rangers.

Nah he went to Burnley, hence why they are very unimaginative and try to sign all our players

May also be how they got Darikwa since we were closely linked during his tenure here

Brentford to Burnley last May then five months later to Glasgow Rs

http://rangers.co.uk/news/headlines/gers-appoint-mcparland/

He has one of those faces doesn't he?...
 

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I told my wife what happened and she said she can see why as "wouldnt you want to progress your career?"

At which point i threw her out in the cold.
 

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Massive mistake from the player, it seems. Deserves some stick but I'm already becoming a tad uncomfortable with the level of vitriol, given we have only heard one side of the story. Realise I'll be in a minority... A very small one... Of maybe one.
He has a contract if fit and selected he has to play. Simple as. There is no two sides to that.
 

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Tarkowski (noun)

1.a person who betrays his or her own football club by aiding an opposing club through refusing to play for his employer, often serving later in said other club, or any other entity offering more cash and/or bling.

2. Unacceptable behaviour (e.g. 'the accused was found guilty at Brentford Magistrates of stealing the poor box from St. Benham's. Previous convictions include stealing a Mr Bjelland's mobility scooter and kicking a dog belonging to a Mr Cliff Crown).

3. Vulgar term for female genitalia (e.g. "and the English fans are, as one, chanting that Maradona is 'a Tarkowski' (Jimmy Hill, World Cup 1986)).

Very good. I particularly enjoyed 3 :sorted:
 

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Fine him two weeks wages.

Tell him he's not going anywhere unless the price is right.

Leave him out of the team (think De Gea).

Review on 31st January.

Never deal with his agent again.

Bang on :sorted:
 

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Fine him two weeks wages.

Tell him he's not going anywhere unless the price is right.

Leave him out of the team (think De Gea).

Review on 31st January.

Never deal with his agent again.

Sensible. Was expecting you to say sell him back to his old club for two bob!
Ps. Hope you're well :)
 

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Massive mistake from the player, it seems. Deserves some stick but I'm already becoming a tad uncomfortable with the level of vitriol, given we have only heard one side of the story. Realise I'll be in a minority... A very small one... Of maybe one.
Uncomfortable with the level of vitriol? You compared his footballing talents to those of Diana Ross, but an hour ago? :suspect:
 

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My Dad's name was in the programme last night and Tarkowski has tarnished it. The club have looked after Hogan and Jota to name two so I think they deserve a bit more respect
 

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I expect Tarkowski felt he would get off a lot more lightly and quietly excused ala Gray earlier in the season.

I gather he's none too happy about the club's decision to go public to which I would reply "tough".
 

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Massive mistake from the player, it seems. Deserves some stick but I'm already becoming a tad uncomfortable with the level of vitriol, given we have only heard one side of the story. Realise I'll be in a minority... A very small one... Of maybe one.

I assume he has wanted a move for some time and maybe feel the club is not sticking to promises made when they signed him, combined with asking for a fee that he feels is putting clubs off this has brought to a head something that has been boiling for some time. He now had to move on and we can only hope we get value,maybe a loan move first to clear him out of the club. He may also struggle to get the sort of deal he might have expected as he is now damaged goods.

At the end of the day this all does our club no good, his timing on an evening of remembrance was utterly unforgivable.
 
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