The Ashes 2021/22

[Holysmit]

I've always said Buttler is a sh*t wicket keeper and not a test player.

 

[Bristolian Bee]

Richie's favourite score

Soooo close!!!!!

 

[Bristolian Bee]

Can someone pls remind me why Foakes isn’t the wicket keeper?

Foakesy/Stokesy/Woakesy
This has to happen at least once in my life.

 

[Untouchable]

Should have been a 5 year ban.

At least. Personally I’d go further and ban for life any pro who cheats and undermines the integrity of the game. Although I doubt many would take a line as hard as the one I do.

 

[Inappropriate Smilies Bee]

Hopefully wake up to 8 (eight) BBC wicket notifications tomorrow morning and their two new bowlers are rubbish.

 

[Inappropriate Smilies Bee]

At least. Personally I’d go further and ban for life any pro who cheats and undermines the integrity of the game. Although I doubt many would take a line as hard as the one I do.

If their bowlers swing it more than our bowlers it will be extremely suspicious.

 

[Gazza Bee]

Not a good start - first chance was not even a half chance but the last one was a dolly and any club wicketkeeper should be taking those. Probably looking at another 400+ score and scoreboard pressure - need early wickets and to limit below 350 really.

 

[whyteleafebee76]

I thought we got it tactically spot on initially, tight bowling slow the scoring, nick a wicket and then utilise the conditions under the lights.

However, when the lights started to take effect we seemed to change tactic and went for a spell of short pitched bowling. Surely that was the time to continue probing on or around off stump trying to get them to nick off.

I gave up by the last hour.

 

[Indian Bee]

At least. Personally I’d go further and ban for life any pro who cheats and undermines the integrity of the game. Although I doubt many would take a line as hard as the one I do.

And less not forget their crocodile tears was only because they were caught. They would have continued cheating.

 

[IslandBee]

I thought we got it tactically spot on initially, tight bowling slow the scoring, nick a wicket and then utilise the conditions under the lights.

However, when the lights started to take effect we seemed to change tactic and went for a spell of short pitched bowling. Surely that was the time to continue probing on or around off stump trying to get them to nick off.

I gave up by the last hour.

I have zero faith in Silverwood and his acolytes tbh. Comparing his situation with football, can you imagine someone with hardly any international experience as a player and only one year's experience as a manager/coach of a prem team being made England football manger?

 

[GP200]

I have zero faith in Silverwood and his acolytes tbh. Comparing his situation with football, can you imagine someone with hardly any international experience as a player and only one year's experience as a manager/coach of a prem team being made England football manger?

...........Sam Allardyce...............

 

[IslandBee]

...........Sam Allardyce...............

Long career as manager in the Prem, including taking Bolton into Europe.

 

[whyteleafebee76]

I have zero faith in Silverwood and his acolytes tbh. Comparing his situation with football, can you imagine someone with hardly any international experience as a player and only one year's experience as a manager/coach of a prem team being made England football manger?

I agree regarding Silverwood but we did have two bowlers with 1000 test wickets between them on the pitch they should have been saying how we should be bowling.

 

[Indian Bee]

I agree regarding Silverwood but we did have two bowlers with 1000 test wickets between them on the pitch they should have been saying how we should be bowling.

The one area where I was a bit confused is that Root bowling in the final session. The bowlers were picked explicitly for the day/ night conditions so why was Root bowling?

 

[whyteleafebee76]

The one area where I was a bit confused is that Root bowling in the final session. The bowlers were picked explicitly for the day/ night conditions so why was Root bowling?

Yes I was going to rant about that as well. 5 seamers should have been rotating all through that last session.

 

[Inappropriate Smilies Bee]

The one area where I was a bit confused is that Root bowling in the final session. The bowlers were picked explicitly for the day/ night conditions so why was Root bowling?

I think it was to get through the 80 overs quicker & get more overs with the new ball later on.

 

[Judio1999]

A Brilliant Catch and
An Awful Shot

That was the only 2 wickets.....

 

[bees1984]

The one area where I was a bit confused is that Root bowling in the final session. The bowlers were picked explicitly for the day/ night conditions so why was Root bowling?

So they could get through the overs quicker and get the new ball to bowl under the lights

 

[IslandBee]

I agree regarding Silverwood but we did have two bowlers with 1000 test wickets between them on the pitch they should have been saying how we should be bowling.

I hope they are encouraged to have such an input.

 

[horshambees]

And now we're treated to one-sided Aussie commentary. Will they rotate to commentators from other countries or do I turn off now?!

Stick with it because they go to Jamaica in a minute then Mexico.

 

[Les Beeavinu]

Foakesy/Stokesy/Woakesy
This has to happen at least once in my life.

Replacing Whoopsie.

 

[whyteleafebee76]

So they could get through the overs quicker and get the new ball to bowl under the lights

So why did Root not bowl 10-11 overs before the tea break, get through the overs then and maximise the more favourable conditions under the lights with the seamers.

 

[badgerbee]

Hopefully wake up to 8 (eight) BBC wicket notifications tomorrow morning and their two new bowlers are rubbish.

You planning a looooooooong lie in then??!!

 

[whyteleafebee76]

I'll call it now, they'll score 450+ and we will be 30-3 by close of play tomorrow.

 

[bees1984]

So why did Root not bowl 10-11 overs before the tea break, get through the overs then and maximise the more favourable conditions under the lights with the seamers.

Agreed. Maybe he regrets that decision now but was probably hoping the seamers would be better placed to take wickets with a slightly newer ball earlier and then bowl his overs once it has really died?

 

[whyteleafebee76]

Agreed. Maybe he regrets that decision now but was probably hoping the seamers would be better placed to take wickets with a slightly newer ball earlier and then bowl his overs once it has really died?

Possibly. Just feels that we are muddled in our thinking, from selection to tactics.

 

[bees1984]

Possibly. Just feels that we are muddled in our thinking, from selection to tactics.

I think the initial tactics have been OK but Australia have had some luck and we have dropped a few catches at important times....Buttler the perfect example today. If those chances were taken then we may be talking differently about the tactics. As it is some of it does raise an eyebrow

 

[RAF_Patto]

I think this will Root's last tour as captain, some of the decisions made have been very questionable and with everyone left scratching their heads.

I love the guy, he's a great batsmen, but unfortunately I feel him and the management team aren't up to the job of getting England back to their best. It could be another decade before we get to the top again.

 

[Les Beeavinu]

Awkward isn't it, I'd put Buttler in every England team that takes the field but that drop was sh*t.

 

[Indian Bee]

So why did Root not bowl 10-11 overs before the tea break, get through the overs then and maximise the more favourable conditions under the lights with the seamers.

Exactly. They selected this team to utilise the night conditions. Seamers should only have been bowling in the final session, rather than 'waste' overs until the new ball.

I do find England very rigid in their selection for the last year. We don't always agree but even @super J agreed with me that it was bonkers to 'rest' Anderson for the 2nd test in India to 'manage' his workload for the day/ night test in the 3rd test after going 1-0 up. That pitched turned out to be spin friendly that even Root got 5-8. They have picked whom they wanted for Adelaide long time ago and that meant no 'spinner'. What really baffles me is that England all year in test matches have been picking the wrong side and managing players workload for the 'ashes' and then inexplicably' rest players like Anderson and Broad for the first test 'in the ashes'. Really finding it hard to work out.

England can still turn this around but need to be flexibly and pick players for each test as it comes. Leach shouldn't have played the first test but should have played in this test. Let's see how Lyon gets on later on.

A big first session on day 2 ahead.

 

[Banana]

Awkward isn't it, I'd put Buttler in every England team that takes the field but that drop was sh*t.

Never seen a drop from a keeper like that. It was actually in his gloves!

 

[HaylingBee74]

Never seen a drop from a keeper like that. It was actually in his gloves!

I would like to have heard from a former keeper as to what happened. Technique at fault, or the gloves themselves. Could he not feel the ball properly?

 

[Untouchable]

Never seen a drop from a keeper like that. It was actually in his gloves!

The good news is that it now replaces the Neal Maupay miss at Cardiff as the biggest sporting balls up ever.

 

[RAF_Patto]

Awkward isn't it, I'd put Buttler in every England team that takes the field but that drop was sh*t.

The drop was top draw....its the "catch" that was sh*t.

 

[Holysmit]

Awkward isn't it, I'd put Buttler in every England team that takes the field but that drop was sh*t.

I would pick him in every white ball side.

But not even consider him for tests. His keeping is poor and hes not scored enough runs to justify selection.

 

[whyteleafebee76]

I would like to have heard from a former keeper as to what happened. Technique at fault, or the gloves themselves. Could he not feel the ball properly?

More a lapse of concentration in my opinion. The gloves seem to work fine for 125 others that passed the edge previously.

 

[Untouchable]

Jimmy gets Smith for 93.

Another cheat bites the dust.

 

[Gazza Bee]

I'll call it now, they'll score 450+ and we will be 30-3 by close of play tomorrow.

Well I think the first bit will definitely happen now - hopefully part 2 doesn't

 

[Indian Bee]

Jimmy gets Smith for 93.

Another cheat bites the dust.

something satisfying that both Warner and Smith got out in the 90s.

 

[Indian Bee]

I can see Aussies batting for 10-12 overs after tea (if not bowled out) and will expect to have 20-22 overs tonight at England.

 

[davido_i]

Carey now gone, Aussie 390/7.....
You'd hope not too long until we are batting....against the pink ball.....under lights.....gulp!!

 

[Holysmit]

something satisfying that both Warner and Smith got out in the 90s.

Would have preferred to have got them for 0 personally.

 

[Inappropriate Smilies Bee]

I would like to have heard from a former keeper as to what happened. Technique at fault, or the gloves themselves. Could he not feel the ball properly?

@glennj219 can you help?

 

[Inappropriate Smilies Bee]

I would like to have heard from a former keeper as to what happened. Technique at fault, or the gloves themselves. Could he not feel the ball properly?

Matt Prior said in the studio to Sir Alastair Cook that he had just been saying “Don’t get lazy” to Buttler as he could see his concentration levels were dropping - he could tell by watching his footwork apparently.

 

[Hullbee]

Although I doubt many would take a line as hard as the one I do.

Must be good stuff you nutter

 

[davido_i]

missing Wood.....really need extreme pace to sort the tail out

 

[ChrisSmith1992]

You just knew the 'tail' would get runs against us. Draw at best for us here.

 

[Indian Bee]

You just knew the 'tail' would get runs against us. Draw at best for us here.

There is a pattern here. England overall have bowled accurately to the top order but lose it when bowling to tailenders.

 

[Cham]

Aus declare on 473

 

[horshambees]

Could be a tough session for England.

Understatement of the week.