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Got schooled today sadly, didn't have an answer for Scott Parker's tactics, which is quite hard to say. Hope he can learn from this.
 
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Getting a kicking again from weirdos on social media. Genuinely can’t understand how fans from other teams dislike him or that he’s somehow arrogant.
 

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Got schooled today sadly, didn't have an answer for Scott Parker's tactics, which is quite hard to say. Hope he can learn from this.
Yeah,although if Parker was a decent manager with that squad.....Fulham would have comfortably gone up automatically.
 

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Teams where he's come out and said that he reckons he'll win their fans have taken against him quite a lot, Swansea and Leeds fans in particular seem quite agitated. Not sure why either feel the need to, but the Leeds fans I do follow on Twitter all do seem to take satisfaction from him/us losing, even if they're decent people.
 

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It’s nice to have a manager with brains.

Listen to him. No cliches. Speaks well. He’s learning. Like we all are.

He’ll be better next season. He knows what it takes now. Be stronger mentally. Play your own game.

We’ll be fine.
 

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Teams where he's come out and said that he reckons he'll win their fans have taken against him quite a lot, Swansea and Leeds fans in particular seem quite agitated. Not sure why either feel the need to, but the Leeds fans I do follow on Twitter all do seem to take satisfaction from him/us losing, even if they're decent people.
I can sort of understand the Swansea fans although I don't think anything he said was really directed against them; he was trying to motivate our players who had lost three in a row. No need to make excuses for Leeds fans who are what they are.
 

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Ha yes, that said I probably would prefer him to stop with the 'they're fearing us' talk, which Marcondes also went with. Just doesn't help with much...
 

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I don't care what other clubs fans think of TF. He's done an excellent job and his teams have left me thoroughly entertained all season. Well done Thomas.
 

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I don't care what other clubs fans think of TF. He's done an excellent job and his teams have left me thoroughly entertained all season. Well done Thomas.
Indeed. If we're fortunate enough to get a good start next season, he is someone we should fear being poached from elsewhere.
 

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Outstanding manager and can understand why other teams endeavour to undermine him but to date the have totally failed
 

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Nothing against him but 15 losses including play-offs this season (14 by one goal) is too much. I hope his stats are better next season.
 

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Nothing against him but 15 losses including play-offs this season (14 by one goal) is too much. I hope his stats are better next season.
Majority of those surely though were when we were still getting the team together?
 

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I am quite sure he can improves us next season, as he did this, and when that happens we will go up automatically.
 

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Nothing against him but 15 losses including play-offs this season (14 by one goal) is too much. I hope his stats are better next season.
We missed out on automatic promotion by 2 points over 46 matches with a small squad and a massive GD. Not sure what you really expect. In truth, we overachieved.
 

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He has done very well and hope he can carry it on into next season, he's a good match with our club. Good recruitment will key.

I get that he sees the players in training and we don't but I do at times though think he is cautious with his team selection and in particular has ( for example) stuck with some players ( like Bryan) who have been out of sorts for a few weeks now. Fosu and Canos may not have the same potential but either could have added some much needed energy tonight earlier on or even starting.
 

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We obviously had room for improvement, the early season form was ultimately the downfall. 3 wins in 11 isn't a great way to start a season... We all know we were good enough to go up, but just like Leeds last year, Fulham 3 years ago, Brighton 4 years and Middlesbrough the playoff year, a good team often misses out...I personally have thought for a while that it should be 4 up and 4 down like it is for League One to Two to counter that, but that conversation will just come across as sour grapes at the moment.

Honestly, the teams at the top will usually lose their games 1-0, as once the opposition do manage to get a lead, they then put everything behind the ball. Huddersfield and Stoke's will happen...but either way there were a few more than there needed to be.

I think Marcondes will help with that one, his ability to slip a ball into that tiny bit of space to make a chance against a tight defence is something we'd been missing for a while. It's the sort of thing that we hoped for with McEachran but...we all know how that one went.

Personally, I wouldn't be surprised if there were several more frustrating results like that next season. We're in a division with a Warnock team, a Michael O'Neill one, plus Gary Rowett, Neil Harris, and Aitor Karanka back in the league plus of course Lamouchi. We could have some very niggly games coming up...and hopefully one of our pre-season plans will be to be able to get through teams like that.
 

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I do not know when that process ended exactly but we lost e.g. 10 matches since start of November 2019.
Amazing considering he didn't kick a ball. He was one game away from the big one twice (arguably 3 times) this season. That gives him some leeway in my eyes
 

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He has done very well and hope he can carry it on into next season, he's a good match with our club. Good recruitment will key.

I get that he sees the players in training and we don't but I do at times though think he is cautious with his team selection and in particular has ( for example) stuck with some players ( like Bryan) who have been out of sorts for a few weeks now. Fosu and Canos may not have the same potential but either could have added some much needed energy tonight earlier on or even starting.
Agree with this, whilst I understand why we have stuck with pretty much the same team since lockdown (apart from Da Silva,Jensen and Marcondes rotating). IMHO Frank should have mixed it up more and used the likes of Halil, Baptiste, Fosu, Canos..even Mokotjo more to keep the team fresh...they looked knackered tonight but I accept we might not have been in this position if he had done that.
 

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We missed out on automatic promotion by 2 points over 46 matches with a small squad and a massive GD. Not sure what you really expect. In truth, we overachieved.
I did not have any real expectations but many other told we were the best team in the Championship. Personally I think Covid-19 break gave us unexpected chance for automatic promotion because we were not playing well before the break. Our 5 matches before the Sheffield Wednesday match in March gave us only 4 points, any other 5 match period was not worse during this season.
 

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Agree with this, whilst I understand why we have stuck with pretty much the same team since lockdown (apart from Da Silva,Jensen and Marcondes rotating). IMHO Frank should have mixed it up more and used the likes of Halil, Baptiste, Fosu, Canos..even Mokotjo more to keep the team fresh...they looked knackered tonight but I accept we might not have been in this position if he had done that.
I guess you mean starting as the matches when we randomly threw these players on as subs where when we threw promotion away.
 

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I did not have any real expectations but many other told we were the best team in the Championship. Personally I think Covid-19 break gave us unexpected chance for automatic promotion because we were not playing well before the break. Our 5 matches before the Sheffield Wednesday match in March gave us only 4 points, any other 5 match period was not worse during this season.
We are a young team with limited experience and a small squad - compare the 2 benches tonight.
 

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I guess you mean starting as the matches when we randomly threw these players on as subs where when we threw promotion away.
I take your point and its only my opinion but we needed something different tonight but we didnt have it. Fulham knew how we would play and this was their 3rd attempt to get their tactics right which they did. Lets be honest after 20 minutes we knew how it was going to go...
 

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Has a job on his hands this summer. Will be a lot of churn. I’m sure he he will be given time and resource to rebuild.
 

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I take your point and its only my opinion but we needed something different tonight but we didnt have it. Fulham knew how we would play and this was their 3rd attempt to get their tactics right which they did. Lets be honest after 20 minutes we knew how it was going to go...
Apart from Marcondes every sub weakened us and it wasn't to implement a new tactical plan. Our bench looks strong but is inexperienced in the way we play so is unlikely to make us stronger, no matter how different it is. Most new signings take 18 months to be ready to play significant minutes for us, we are fortunate so many new arrivals made a big contribution to the first team this year
 

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Apart from Marcondes every sub weakened us and it wasn't to implement a new tactical plan. Our bench looks strong but is inexperienced in the way we play so is unlikely to make us stronger, no matter how different it is. Most new signings take 18 months to be ready to play significant minutes for us, we are fortunate so many new arrivals made a big contribution to the first team this year
Inclined to agree. I cannot recall the commentators mentioning the names of Canos, Fosu or Dervisoglu.
 
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Canos hit one great low cross for watkins and another one we scored from. Not too shabby
 

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Gonna be controversial..... Thomas is no doubt a lovely intelligent man BUT do we need something more to take us to the level, didnt really get the subs and I I wanna see someone annoyed at times....its not always nicey nicey . Forget tonight as we should of already been in the prem should have been west brom v fulham tonight
 

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Gonna be controversial..... Thomas is no doubt a lovely intelligent man BUT do we need something more to take us to the level, didnt really get the subs and I I wanna see someone annoyed at times....its not always nicey nicey . Forget tonight as we should of already been in the prem should have been west brom v fulham tonight
Well he took us from a defensive shambles to the second best defensive record in the league and managed to align that with the best attacking record - I am happy to be less controversial and wait and see if we again improve on this next season :fishing:
 

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Sadly your views won't count as you have not posted enough.
When you have 3000 plus post's you'll be fine.
 

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Gonna be controversial..... Thomas is no doubt a lovely intelligent man BUT do we need something more to take us to the level, didnt really get the subs and I I wanna see someone annoyed at times....its not always nicey nicey . Forget tonight as we should of already been in the prem should have been west brom v fulham tonight
Get Smith back eh!?

People said he couldn’t do it. Well he did!! Plus kept them up.

We have some odd and fickle supporters.

Get Warnock in ASAP!
 

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Gonna be controversial..... Thomas is no doubt a lovely intelligent man BUT do we need something more to take us to the level, didnt really get the subs and I I wanna see someone annoyed at times....its not always nicey nicey . Forget tonight as we should of already been in the prem should have been west brom v fulham tonight
One of the 5000
Go to Fulham
 

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Agree with this, whilst I understand why we have stuck with pretty much the same team since lockdown (apart from Da Silva,Jensen and Marcondes rotating). IMHO Frank should have mixed it up more and used the likes of Halil, Baptiste, Fosu, Canos..even Mokotjo more to keep the team fresh...they looked knackered tonight but I accept we might not have been in this position if he had done that.
I agree. But if we'd lost the first 2 games of the restart rather than the last 2, then I'm sure we would have rotated more and been fresher for the play-offs. The opportunity for the top 2 appeared all of a sudden, and we had a group of players that we trusted to go out on the pitch and win games. When we rested players (e.g. Dalsgaard against Charlton), it didn't work out and we reverted to the usual 11/12 players.

Canos hit one great low cross for watkins and another one we scored from. Not too shabby
Canos' cameo was a real positive. He's looking very sharp after a long lay-off. We'll need him assuming Benrahma leaves and if Mbeumo's inconsistency continues, so it's great to see him getting back into form.
 

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Might have to go, if we are to rise to the next level.
I haven't posted very much so feel free to slag off.
 

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I will for repeatedly making that same 'joke' lol

Frank will stay, aside from promotion has delivered nearly everything he was asked to do. Sort us out defensively, get us into the top 6, and improve on the points total. Not everything has been perfect, but it's been pretty good on the whole! Many of us felt that we were in the best two teams in the league, and I'd still go with that.
 

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Might have to go, if we are to rise to the next level.
I haven't posted very much so feel free to slag off.
Look I am not interested in how many times you've posted, it bares no relevance to the validity of your opinion. So if you wouldn't mind refraining from the easy excuse of "my opinion doesn't count cos I've only posted X number of times" and answer me this - on the evidence that Thomas Frank has improved our finishing position to 3rd, our defensive record to the second best in the league and our attacking record to the best in the league I am more than happy he can improve us again, what in your opinion is the reason and evidence to the contrary?
 

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Sadly your views won't count as you have not posted enough.
When you have 3000 plus post's you'll be fine.
Apologies, but what is this nonsense? Are you saying that your views aren't given nuff respect because you haven't been here long enough?
 

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Might have to go, if we are to rise to the next level.
I haven't posted very much so feel free to slag off.
Go on. Keep posting the same old b***ock*s for another week or so and you'll have accrued enough posts to be taken seriously.
 

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You see greenshoots ... we have just had the best season with our highest finish for many decades, played the best entertaining football in the Championship which has been backed up by all the tv pundits, the best offensive record and 2nd best defensive record in the Championship this season and achieved on one of the lowest budgets .... and you would like to see Thomas Frank sacked?
 

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god help us next season then!!
They will all be better next season. Young players joining us tend to kick in in their second season, it's been pretty amazing how many players became first team regulars this season. We can't expect our recruitment to be as spectacular every year but I do expect our coaching staff to make the younger recent signings better as they've proven it over time now.
 

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They will all be better next season. Young players joining us tend to kick in in their second season, it's been pretty amazing how many players became first team regulars this season. We can't expect our recruitment to be as spectacular every year but I do expect our coaching staff to make the younger recent signings better as they've proven it over time now.
Let’s hope so, you are right we can’t be expected to recruit gems every year. Not sure how we replace the likes of Said/Ollie but I also thought that about Maupay, Jota and Sawyers.
 

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He's an excellent manager, and deserves praise overall for an incredible season. But it would be nice to see him make a tactical switch early once in a while against teams that try to stifle us. It's happened so many times this season, usually from poor opposition, and we seem to have no answer.

We all see it happening, we all knew from about 10 minutes in vs Fulham, vs Stoke, vs Barnsley that this wasn't going to be our day. Yet we still kept plugging away offering up the same style of play.

Whether it's tactical naivety, or that we don't have the personnel to change it up, I hope Frank and the stats team are looking at this next iterative improvement.
 

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He's an excellent manager, and deserves praise overall for an incredible season. But it would be nice to see him make a tactical switch early once in a while against teams that try to stifle us. It's happened so many times this season, usually from poor opposition, and we seem to have no answer.

We all see it happening, we all knew from about 10 minutes in vs Fulham, vs Stoke, vs Barnsley that this wasn't going to be our day. Yet we still kept plugging away offering up the same style of play.

Whether it's tactical naivety, or that we don't have the personnel to change it up, I hope Frank and the stats team are looking at this next iterative improvement.
Our owner sat and watched it all and wil have lived through that same frustration as us, that we just keep trying to do the same thing, unsuccessfully in these sorts of games. I think it's a fair bet the DoFs and head coach will know this is a major priority for next season.
 

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