Thomas Frank - Signs to June 2023 (9 Viewers)

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He, and the players who executed it, deserves credit for a game plan that overcame Colin’s tactics of man-for-man marking every attacker. Seeing Rico forward on the wing, Matthias at left back and Mads going forward as a box-to-box midfielder was great to see.
Agree, they had their chances but it looked like they couldnt get as close to us as they did in the last league game. Tactical master class from TF.
 

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I loved it after a previous game when he described them as his “sons”.
Made me feel warm inside.
 

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Love his interviews and the consistency of the message - be confident but humble, there's no easy games and we concentrate on the next game as always. Praise for the team and recognition of the opposition when it is justified.
 

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Without a doubt. But sad that someone continually posts, best ever team, best ever manager, when it’s out of context. As you cannot compare like for like. How would today’s footballers compare to those from the 1930’s with the ball? The pitches? Etc etc.

Let’s just say, the 1930’s were the best ever and the players the best ever. At the time.

This group is the best ever - but without Saïd, so it’s questionable - in the last 7 years. That is all.
Fully agree, because the team in the thirties finished 5th in the highest division, against their opponents of the time, its all relative. Until we can beat that performance they have to be our best ever team. I cannot think of any fairer way of measuring this.
 

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Fully agree, because the team in the thirties finished 5th in the highest division, against their opponents of the time, its all relative. Until we can beat that performance they have to be our best ever team. I cannot think of any fairer way of measuring this.
invent time travel, then either play a game- which the 2021 Bees would win, or have a big fight, which the 1930s Bees would win.
 

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invent time travel, then either play a game- which the 2021 Bees would win, or have a big fight, which the 1930s Bees would win.
Don’t forget how heavy the ball was back in the thirties ..imagine modern players heading that now ..or dribbling with a ball of that weight would be interesting ..
 

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Looking forward to TF's interviews with Gary Lineker on MoTD next season. If you think Leeds are getting all the plaudits this season, wait until our silky football hits the terrestrial TV screens. Looking forward to our matches with Liverpool and Man City already.
 

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Looking forward to TF's interviews with Gary Lineker on MoTD next season. If you think Leeds are getting all the plaudits this season, wait until our silky football hits the terrestrial TV screens. Looking forward to our matches with Liverpool and Man City already.
I understand your point, but please don’t get in front of yourself there’s quite a few games to go yet
 

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Looking forward to TF's interviews with Gary Lineker on MoTD next season. If you think Leeds are getting all the plaudits this season, wait until our silky football hits the terrestrial TV screens. Looking forward to our matches with Liverpool and Man City already.
That’s going to look good copied and pasted on the Swansea forum.
🙄
 

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Looking forward to TF's interviews with Gary Lineker on MoTD next season. If you think Leeds are getting all the plaudits this season, wait until our silky football hits the terrestrial TV screens. Looking forward to our matches with Liverpool and Man City already.
If a fan on another site said that we would be saying BBB
 
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Without a doubt. But sad that someone continually posts, best ever team, best ever manager, when it’s out of context. As you cannot compare like for like. How would today’s footballers compare to those from the 1930’s with the ball? The pitches? Etc etc.

Let’s just say, the 1930’s were the best ever and the players the best ever. At the time.

This group is the best ever - but without Saïd, so it’s questionable - in the last 7 years. That is all.
If the laws from the 1930s were used, then the 1930s team would win, as the 2021 team would all get injured. How would David Raya cope with a Dave McCulloch shoulder charge? :pop:

If the laws from 2021 were used, then the current team would win, as the 1930s team would have too many players sent off. 🤷‍♂️
 

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If the laws from the 1930s were used, then the 1930s team would win, as the 2021 team would all get injured. How would David Raya cope with a Dave McCulloch shoulder charge? :pop:

If the laws from 2021 were used, then the current team would win, as the 1930s team would have too many players sent off. 🤷‍♂️
Though I suspect the 2021 vintage would have been far, far faster than their 30s counterparts and tactically, as Hungary showed us in the 50s, way too fluid for them too. Ball control also way beyond that- there was a pathe newsreel of 1930s Bees doing a training session and they could barely trap the ball compared to the stuff our players routinely do. The eras can’t really be compared.
 

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Though I suspect the 2021 vintage would have been far, far faster than their 30s counterparts and tactically, as Hungary showed us in the 50s, way too fluid for them too. Ball control also way beyond that- there was a pathe newsreel of 1930s Bees doing a training session and they could barely trap the ball compared to the stuff our players routinely do. The eras can’t really be compared.
Probably distracted from trapping the ball by filling their pipes.
 
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What an unbelievable job TF and the whole coaching staff are doing. Right team selection and right subs at the right time.

Also let's be honest players that join us become better players with the coaching. We have an excellent recruitment record but players get better by the coaching they are receiving.
 

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Taken us to another level since Smith departed...long may it continue but it wont be long until his name is mentioned with 'bigger' vacancies...
 

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Last 9 league games, won 8 and drawn 1 - equalled our 8 wins in a row and draw last year in terms of points gained.
 

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Thomas's confidence after we went a goal down again made me confident so it must work wonders for the team. Astounding performance, even though Reading were showing us some great football. This guy is cool.
 

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There’s such harmony in the team....the players are fully behind TF’s philosophy and game plan even when they’re rotated....and as mentioned before the way the new players that have come in have blended in and have improved as players, all credit has to go to TF, Brian and King Kev...
 

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he is the man. no doubt about it. at the moment, he's getting most things right and we're seeing the results. obviously, there's much more to it than TF but he's the man in the middle as it were and he's consistent in his message and his demeanour and his approach. which from a team building perspective is what you want, you know where you are, you know what's expected of you, and the people around him, for example, PJ are pulling in the same direction.
 

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You wonder if it all went to plan. After they scored we turned up the speed and determination to equalise. Then we went back to shutting them out. Worked hard in the second half, then when Sergi came on we went into winning mode. Looked like it was planned and the players knew what was going to happen!
 

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Now, about the questioning of that rotation policy earlier in the season.......
The way he has managed the squad has been so clever, I think resting Janelt for the Wycombe game was a masterstroke. We were visibly stronger and fitter than Reading in the last 30 minutes last night.

Hopefully the old school ‘play you’re best XI every single game’ brigade are finally starting to get it and won’t start kicking off again when Thomas decides to next rotate/rest a couple of players.
 

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It was obvious that the season would end up taking a toll on most teams, so how that amount of people couldn't see the importance of preemptive rotation was quite baffling. There is no point in waiting until everyone is shagged out before rotating, at that point you're just spinning slowing plates and those players aren't going to be at 100% without a longer break. Our COVID break also gave the players the rest that they needed in all likelihood.

If other teams start getting tired late in games like this it's going to suit us very well. We look fresher than other teams and have a good strategy for the whole season I think.
 

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It was obvious that the season would end up taking a toll on most teams, so how that amount of people couldn't see the importance of preemptive rotation was quite baffling. There is no point in waiting until everyone is shagged out before rotating, at that point you're just spinning slowing plates and those players aren't going to be at 100% without a longer break. Our COVID break also gave the players the rest that they needed in all likelihood.

If other teams start getting tired late in games like this it's going to suit us very well. We look fresher than other teams and have a good strategy for the whole season I think.
I think it is no surprise that the three teams who came out of the league suspension last season best were the three with the best coaching- us, Leeds and Swansea. It showed how well the clubs had worked on managing and maintaining fitness.
 

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I really wish the post-match interviewers would ask the questions we all want the answers to:
'Thomas, you looked pretty upset when you came off at half-time. KOC had to josh you out of it as you walked off. What was all that about then?'
 

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I really wish the post-match interviewers would ask the questions we all want the answers to:
'Thomas, you looked pretty upset when you came off at half-time. KOC had to josh you out of it as you walked off. What was all that about then?'
Yes I did see Thomas and the Reading manager having what looked like stern words . And posted it last night as it was clearly seen in the halftime highlights on IFollow
 

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Great Manager and person but if we don't go up this season how many goes at it does he get.
 

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Great Manager and person but if we don't go up this season how many goes at it does he get.
Exactly the additional pressure TF doesn't need. Ideal world would see us continue the form of the last 22 games and saunter across the finishing line.Whatever happens TF is a brilliant manager and an upgrade is highly unlikely.
 

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Great Manager and person but if we don't go up this season how many goes at it does he get.
he should, and will, get as long as it takes if we keep finishing in the top 10 of the championship. Don’t forget we’re competing with a number of clubs who have the parachute millions from their spell in the top tier. Our time will come, and there’s no doubt we’re in the best position we have ever been to make the next step. Another unbeaten run of 17 games will get us there, and is certainly achievable with this squad.
 

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Great Manager and person but if we don't go up this season how many goes at it does he get.
I understand Tony Pulis is available. He’s taken a team up from this division and kept them competitive in the PL for several seasons, including a FA cup final. Ideal. :fishing:
 

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I understand Tony Pulis is available. He’s taken a team up from this division and kept them competitive in the PL for several seasons, including a FA cup final. Ideal. :fishing:
And we can seen see that Nørgaard, Janelt and Bidstrup midfield line-up that some are looking for.
 
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And we can seen see that Nørgaard, Janelt and Bidstrup midfield line-up that some are looking for.
In front of Janssen, Reid and Pinnock with MBS and Dalsgaard as the full backs. Toney & Forss to wait for long balls but mainly coming back to play as auxiliary defenders.
 

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In front of Janssen, Reid and Pinnock with MBS and Dalsgaard as the full backs. Toney & Forss to wait for long balls but mainly coming back to play as auxiliary defenders.
Wouldn't lose many......
 

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Spot on, bigger picture/longer term view must always prevail.
I think there are Bees fans that still get drawn in by the lazy reporting of "Manager Thomas Frank's Brentford". Thomas is a component of Matthew Benham's Brentford and the club will continue doing what it's doing with or without Thomas – he's the conductor, not the composer.
 

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If we don't go up this time. I think we should sack Phil Giles. Frank McParland nearly got us up on a 10th of the budget.
 

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