Thomas Frank - Signs to June 2023

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Had so much talent at his disposal and hasn't delivered. I dread to think what he would do with a weak squad.
And running Ken Richardson a close second so far is......

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Had so much talent at his disposal and hasn't delivered. I dread to think what he would do with a weak squad.
Are you being serious or is this a wind up ?...............he can only deal with what he's given , the fact is he has too many players who are not anywhere close to the required level. There were at least 5 tonight including the ones who came on as subs who would never get anywhere near a promotion chasing team. There needs to be a big rebuild if the club is really serious about the PL. As soon as Rico, JDS and Henrik were injured it was so obvious we didn't have anybody to replace them.
 

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Amazing to think we’d even want to be the sort of club to sack a manager for taking us to the Championship play offs twice and a first ever major cup semifinal.

Even if the worst happened and we lost, sold Toney, Henry, JDS, it’s as if some have forgotten that we buy well, trust our players and managers and will work to be competitive. There will be no terrifying team in the division next season- Fulham the only relegated team with some quality and the yo-yo experience. WBA we’re not great last season, won’t have Sam, will sell Pereira. Sheffield U are and always were a bit meh. Nothing to fear from the other playoff teams. Reading in serious ffp trouble. None of the promoted clubs worrying, Sunderland maybe due to their potential scale but they’re managed by Lee Johnson ffs and he barely troubled us managing Bristol City who had much more stability and budget to buy big. Top 6 won’t be a stretch and we’ll be there to be twelfth man. Why’d TF walk? If it comes to it, why not let’s all enjoy Forss building, Maupay-like, on the gaffes the last two games to be our fourth 25 goal striker in a row?
 

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Not at all just applying common sense.
No, we have a very good first choice eleven, but we don’t have enough strength in depth in key positions - no coincidence that Norwich and Watford will go up automatically in this most intense of seasons.
For what it’s worth, I think we stand a decent chance in the playoffs... especially if 2 of Rico / Josh / Henrik are available
 

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MB didn't sack TF when he started with the dismal run in his first 11 games in charge. I think it is highly unlikely that he would be sacked as others have mentioned achieving successive playoffs and an historic semi final in the Caraboa cup. With a lack in depth in the squad and player injuries over the season the toll on the results has transpired. Be careful what you may wish for , I remember a heroic England player who nearly took us out of the Football league and top managers require money in the squad and high salries.
 

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Feel sorry for the bloke. Players at his disposal aren’t good enough to go up this season, not his fault. Rico, Da Silva, Norgaard, Pontus, Dalsgaard have all had lengthy spells on the sideline. I personally think he’s done well to get us 4th. Don’t no what some people expect? He doesn’t recruit the players, we didn’t replace Said, I’m sure Frank wanted someone. We didn’t cover Rico, we brought Ghoddos in who hasn’t adapted yet. Not a dig at the DOFs, just don’t think Franks at fault. Give him the players, I would be confident he would take us up.
 

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Actually feel a bit sorry for him....the injuries have killed our run in and we just don’t have the quality in depth to replace em...whether that’s down to possible recruitment failures in jan and letting others go out on loan etc is probably a decision made higher up....my only hope is that he has enough left to give it a real go in the play offs but our current form isn’t exactly encouraging....we really need to know if jds Rico or henrik have ANY chance of being fit for play offs ??? If not he’s got his work cut out ;)
 

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Actually feel a bit sorry for him....the injuries have killed our run in and we just don’t have the quality in depth to replace em...whether that’s down to possible recruitment failures in jan and letting others go out on loan etc is probably a decision made higher up....my only hope is that he has enough left to give it a real go in the play offs but our current form isn’t exactly encouraging....we really need to know if jds Rico or henrik have ANY chance of being fit for play offs ??? If not he’s got his work cut out ;)
a very fair and balanced comment, however, I see no joy whatsoever in these play offs if I'm totally honest.
 

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a very fair and balanced comment, however, I see no joy whatsoever in these play offs if I'm totally honest.
No Bees fan can see joy in the playoffs, with good reason; buy maybe, just maybe, we’ll come out trumps this time. Even Coventry City eventually won the FA Cup, to eradicate that longstanding joke at their expense.
 

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Actually feel a bit sorry for him....the injuries have killed our run in and we just don’t have the quality in depth to replace em...whether that’s down to possible recruitment failures in jan and letting others go out on loan etc is probably a decision made higher up....my only hope is that he has enough left to give it a real go in the play offs but our current form isn’t exactly encouraging....we really need to know if jds Rico or henrik have ANY chance of being fit for play offs ??? If not he’s got his work cut out ;)
What's up with you; has someone hacked your account?! I hope the team show more passion than this post in the PO's.....:nono:
 

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I Reckon TF is long overdue a rest. He has 3 kids and probably barely sees them. The toll of the last two seasons must be having an impact on him and his energy levels that must get passed onto the squad.
Yep - remember a few weeks back when we had a blank weekend and he took time off saying he needed a break.
 

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Amazing to think we’d even want to be the sort of club to sack a manager for taking us to the Championship play offs twice and a first ever major cup semifinal. Even if the worst happened and we lost, sold Toney, Henry, JDS, it’s as if some have forgotten that we buy well, trust our players and managers and will work to be competitive. There will be no terrifying team in the division next season- Fulham the only relegated team with some quality and the yo-yo experience. WBA we’re not great last season, won’t have Sam, will sell Pereira. Sheffield U are and always were a bit meh. Nothing to fear from the other playoff teams. Reading in serious ffp trouble. None of the promoted clubs worrying, Sunderland maybe due to their potential scale but they’re managed by Lee Johnson ffs and he barely troubled us managing Bristol City who had much more stability and budget to buy big. Top 6 won’t be a stretch and we’ll be there to be twelfth man. Why’d TF walk? If it comes to it, why not let’s all enjoy Forss building, Maupay-like, on the gaffes the last two games to be our fourth 25 goal striker in a row?
And presumably Fulham won't have all their loan layers next year. How many is it - 8? 9?
 

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I'd be interested to know the 3 key attributes that the "Frank out" proposers wish to see in a replacement. (Not being Thomas Frank excluded.)
 

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I'd be interested to know the 3 key attributes that the "Frank out" proposers wish to see in a replacement. (Not being Thomas Frank excluded.)
Just one. “Have I been sacked in Champ Manager and replaced by this guy?”
 

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Well this is a tasty old thread isn't it! It was brewing well last night when I left, and it hasn't disappointed!!

But to add my three penn'orth from RG land, I think TF is a decent manager who has taken us places we would never have dreamed of even when we got promoted into the Championship. Play-offs, quality cup run, good stuff TF. However, we are as ever short in depth, and no matter how high the quality of the first XI, as gaps occur due to injuries etc, we are screwed.

The big question is, could he do more with the replacements available. My personal view is yes, i think we should be doing a little better, but i stress, a little. The lack of shots on target against Millwall was woeful, and i feel that a better strategy for that game might have got us three points. But as the man himself says, it's fine margins.
 

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Do not want TF to walk, sack him now before it's too late. He's achieved nothing since he was appointed.
You’re absolutely right.

Apart from TF being our most successful manager in 7 decades.
Apart from leading us to consecutive top 6 finishes
Apart from leading us to our first major cup semi final
Apart from being part of the coaching team that has seen us generate £100m plus in transfer income with more to follow

Most managers achieve very little. There is only so much success to go around in football. But when you see the same tired faces on and off the managerial merry go round, I’d take TF every day of the week.
 

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You’re absolutely right.

Apart from TF being our most successful manager in 7 decades.
Apart from leading us to consecutive top 6 finishes
Apart from leading us to our first major cup semi final
Apart from being part of the coaching team that has seen us generate £100m plus in transfer income with more to follow

Most managers achieve very little. There is only so much success to go around in football. But when you see the same tired faces on and off the managerial merry go round, I’d take TF every day of the week.
No let’s get rid so that we can find a Pullis or Similar to take us forward playing football based purely on effort, niggles with no skills.

Sure they can find hard working pros like Eddie H to take us to the next level and also get old experienced professionals that won’t come cheap and have no re-sale value so that MB has to pump in many more millions just to keep us afloat!!

Thomas isn’t perfect, none of us are, but by god he is probably the best head coach that we could get, he has done fantastically well with an ever changing squad of players and to get us where we are now is pretty astounding, particularly in view of the pandemic and specific issues effecting pre season for us.

He has a good set of players, when all fit, some of the best in the league but it is not a squad of great depth, not quite sure what even the likes of Pep would have achieved with the players available. We are good but not the best and all the coaches should take pride for what they have achieved with the resources available
 

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I think Thomas has done a fantastic job and reaching the play offs for a place in the top division should be congratulated as we have stayed within distance of the top 2 considering they both started 50 million pounds better off than us with there parachute payment from the pl.
So dont see why people think we should be in top 2 and he should be sacked for achieving another miracle,Were do people think we would be with dean smith in charge still not anywhere near the play offs that for sure.
 

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I think Thomas has done a fantastic job and reaching the play offs for a place in the top division should be congratulated as we have stayed within distance of the top 2 considering they both started 50 million pounds better off than us with there parachute payment from the pl.
So dont see why people think we should be in top 2 and he should be sacked for achieving another miracle,Were do people think we would be with dean smith in charge still not anywhere near the play offs that for sure.
You can add, compared to us they have larger first team squads and they cost a lot more than our squad
 

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Actually feel a bit sorry for him....the injuries have killed our run in and we just don’t have the quality in depth to replace em...whether that’s down to possible recruitment failures in jan and letting others go out on loan etc is probably a decision made higher up....my only hope is that he has enough left to give it a real go in the play offs but our current form isn’t exactly encouraging....we really need to know if jds Rico or henrik have ANY chance of being fit for play offs ??? If not he’s got his work cut out ;)
Henrik we have been told no, JDS is on crutches so I am told, the only hope is Rico, and if he was getting near fitness I would expect him to be on the
bench, anyhow we can't expect one player to magically transform the team especially recovering from injury, IMO it is what it is and all we hope is
we can make a decent fist of it with what we have now.
 

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Henrik we have been told no, JDS is on crutches so I am told, the only hope is Rico, and if he was getting near fitness I would expect him to be on the
bench, anyhow we can't expect one player to magically transform the team especially recovering from injury, IMO it is what it is and all we hope is
we can make a decent fist of it with what we have now.
we dont need to transform the team we have lost 7 games out of 42
 

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The only good thing is the other eams around (Swansea, Barnsley) are also suffering the fatique and injuries we have. Just think it will come down to Bournemouth having more fit players than any other team for the playoffs.
 

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Total support for Thomas from me. What a year he's had, probably been under more constant pressure than any manager in the Championship and has achieved the highest finishes in my 49 years as a Bees fan. Some of the recent games have produced less thrilling football than we have grown used to, and some seem to presume as our inalienable right to expect, but given injuries to key players and an unrelenting schedule it's hardly surprising. Just to get through this fan less year working as hard as Thomas obviously does, without the adrenaline rush reward of applause when things go well, is an achievement worthy of nothing less than our respect.
 

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He can’t do much more. This issue is losing our 2 best players in Rico and josh and quite a few of the current personnel aren’t up to the required nark IMO
 

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I thought they were about beating the opponents.
But the playoffs are all about being hard to beat...
They can be both. But above all, I would say they are about playing to your potential on the day and combatting the nerves. We are absolutely capable of beating anyone in those playoffs, but too often, we beat ourselves. The play off final will be won between the ears.
 

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I Don't have a problem being in the championship again ,shape of the team went tits up once Rico and da Silva got crocked and dalsgard had been a better leader than pontus from what I've seen.
Plays offs will be the usual lottery, but personly I don't give a toss as long as we can get back to a Saturday day out watching our team
 

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He can’t do much more. This issue is losing our 2 best players in Rico and josh and quite a few of the current personnel aren’t up to the required nark IMO
For evidence of the affect not having your best player playing look no further than Spurs without Kane this afternoon.
 

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Nothing wrong with Thomas Frank. most managers get the sack for relegation or finishing near the bottom. Why would you get rid of a head coach that has took his team to two successive playoffs. Need to remember that we are talking bfc on 10,000 crowds, Thomas is getting more experience. Ridiculous comment from Ken Richardson, take a red card Ken
 

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