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Ok. But do you think it is acceptable that 9 games ago we were top of the table 2 points clear of 2nd and 21 points clear of Barnsley and now we could be 17 points off 1st and Barnsley could be 1 point behind us by the end of the day (1 game in hand).
Yes. Because I couldn't give a sh*t about Barnsley
 

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Because he's got us to 4th two seasons in a row (on current standings), as previously stated.


We're still punching above, possibly well above, our relative financial position.

Edit - and he's not solely responsible for us being a good IF and covering LB/LWB short.
Given the current financial situation and the ability to source players on the continent in future. I’m concerned how much longer we will be able to punch above our weight without spending shedloads and still be challenging. I agree about the left side of the squad. As well as the DoFs have done, they seem to have fecked up on this and given too much faith in players covering positions that they actually can’t.
 

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Ok. But do you think it is acceptable that 9 games ago we were top of the table 2 points clear of 2nd and 21 points clear of Barnsley and now we could be 17 points off 1st and Barnsley could be 1 point behind us by the end of the day (1 game in hand).

Its not unacceptable, we dont have a divine right to keep that up for the rest of the season. At some point we were however far behind the league leaders before our great run, no one else bar the maniacs at Watford, iirc, changed managers because we started catching up.

It's f***ing disappointing for sure though.
 

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I included my reasoning as to why i feel that way? If you disagree please detail why you believe he deserves to stay.
The quality of the players we have available is the reason for our marginal failure. The manager has wrung the maximum from his resources, but we lost a brilliant goalscoring genius at the end of last season, a season that saw us fail to progress. Why should we expect to be more effective this season when we have a slightly inferior squad which has been impacted by a string of injuries to our top top players? I know that you're disappointed, but you're letting it cloud your judgement. Well done Thomas you're doing a grand job.
 

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Time to go Thomas Frank. At this point its f***ing embarrassing. We aren't even going to make play offs at this rate. Tactically outclassed on a weekly basis, can't even motivate this group of players to string two good halves of football together, 18 points dropped from winning positions this season, Had the best forward line the championship has ever seen last season need 2 points from 2 games to go up and we bottle it, Play off final we lose after the smug **** has been giving it billy big balls to the press. Only in that position because he decided to proceed with 3 at the back for the first third of the season where we played like sh*te. Then we move on to this season. We have a striker who has 28 league goals and is going to go on to be only the 2nd player in the last 100 years to score 30 championship goals and he still can't get it done. Benham must be furious that his millions that he has pumped in to this club and its infrastructure over the last 10 or so years is being pissed away by some fraud who pretends to be a football manager. Don't worry though i am sure we will all hear all the "Smiles" he saw in training during the international break.

...and who do you think should replace him? Would need to be someone who buys in to the ethos of the club, and the 'project'. Not some dinosaur on the merry go round... .
 

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Think he made the wrong call keeping the same team as Tuesday.

Janelt isn’t as forward thinking as Ghoddos or even Marcondes. Would have liked to see a bit more of an attacking starting XI. I like the Janelt/Norgaard pairing for away games though.

I also really think we need to switch Canos/Bryan to become wingers not inside forwards just to switch things up. Neither Canos or Bryan have good weaker foots.

the subs are very annoying. 70 on the dot. 75, 85. Adapt man.

the man looks as low on confidence as the team unfortunately.
 

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Probably best for me to leave this place alone for a few days I reckon......
if you dont like to see critisism for tf its prob for the best lol

my take it on today is not really down to him but the players he trusted to go out there and do the business.....lets be honest, canos, mbeumo, even norgaard and jensen 2nd half, fosu, forss for the short time on and even mbs at times let him down......his subs were the usual but hes actually got nothing else to try.....hes adrift and theres no captain pugwash to save him at the moment :( we are a shadow of the team that played against bournemouth and swansea and even reading for a lot it recently......we so miss rico and josh......without both of them we just arnt the same team unfortunately
 

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Martin Allen would have blown automatics don't worry about that
All those goals conceded in the last 15 minutes but we'd have learned more about gardening...

Anyway, thank goodness we've moved on from those days.
 

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Eddie Howe, Chris Wilder, Jesse Marsch or Valérien Ismaël
Eddie Howe wouldn't touch us with a barge pole, Chris Wilder just left Sheffield United because he wanted a say over transfers, and I dont even know who the other 2 are.
 

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Yes its brilliant isnt it. but IMO Expectations have risen to an unreasonable level shows that we are not accepting the level we are at. Our expectations arent driven by the name of our club, the size of our fan base, the size of our ground, or our past success.....................

Expectations have risen because we know how good we are and can be. That isnt unreasonable IMO. Brentford fans demanding success has been unheard of in my time.

I demanded we win the Leyland DAF/Freight Rover trophy! 😆
 

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Eddie Howe wouldn't touch us with a barge pole, Chris Wilder just left Sheffield United because he wanted a say over transfers, and I dont even know who the other 2 are.

The fact you don't know who the last two are shows your limited knowledge of football. One even manages in our league currently! If you are suggesting we should not hire them because you don't who they are then you don't really get the concept of the football club as a whole. Did you know who Janlet, Benrahma, Noorgard etc were before they arrived?
 

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The problem is nothing to do with the coach, but rather with the fact that our players are a wafer short of the quality needed to progress. Unfortunately the European pipeline has become a mite blocked according to Rasmus Ankersson so we need to find other sources for player recruitment.

Spot on
 

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The fact you don't know who the last two are shows your limited knowledge of football. One even manages in our league currently! If you are suggesting we should not hire them because you don't who they are then you don't really get the concept of the football club as a whole.

The fact you are suggesting a new Head Coach suggests you don’t get it either!
 

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Eddie Howe, Chris Wilder, Jesse Marsch or Valérien Ismaël

Your saying the Barnsley manager because they’ve had a good run? Not quite as good as ours earlier on in the season. You might say because he’s over achieving with his squad but tbh I think Frank is doing the same. We have a handful of very very good players and a handful of average ones that wouldn’t make it in the prem or in some of Championship sides.
 

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The fact you are suggesting a new Head Coach suggests you don’t get it either!

He has had 1 and 3/4 seasons to attack it with the best resources and playing squad the club has ever had. We are in danger of not even making the play offs. The bubble of replacing 20 + goal a season strikers will soon burst with the new restrictions in place. This season is now or never. last 10 games have been embarrassing and are following on from same mistakes as last season.
 

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He has had 1 and 3/4 seasons to attack it with the best resources and playing squad the club has ever had. We are in danger of not even making the play offs. The bubble of replacing 20 + goal a season strikers will soon burst with the new restrictions in place. This season is now or never. last 10 games have been embarrassing and are following on from same mistakes as last season.

Yeah, I was right. You don’t get it!
 

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Your saying the Barnsley manager because they’ve had a good run? Not quite as good as ours earlier on in the season. You might say because he’s over achieving with his squad but tbh I think Frank is doing the same. We have a handful of very very good players and a handful of average ones that wouldn’t make it in the prem or in some of Championship sides.

They were relegated if it wasn't for Wigans point deduction! He has turned them into the 5th best side in the division currently! You would of not said this of the squad last season. I think the squad has even more depth than last year. We have replaced Watkins goals with Toney the only thing we have failed to replace is Benrahma. Which is definitely not Franks fault. But it is his fault that he plays Canos ahead of Fosu! We have added Ghoddos, Janlet, Reid. We should be doing better. The implosion of the last 10 games is unforgivable! But i am willing to bite my tongue to end of the season and re visit this when we inevitably lose in the play offs!
 

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I find Franks post game comments today concerning, to call that a “very very good performance” is ridiculous. If this is the message he telling the players it’s no wonder our standards have dropped.
He's probably not calmed down yet but 21 goal attempts from less than 50% possession is not too bad... but only a penalty to show for them is a very poor outcome.
 

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I find Franks post game comments today concerning, to call that a “very very good performance” is ridiculous. If this is the message he telling the players it’s no wonder our standards have dropped.

Probably and hopefully it's just for the media. In his interview after the Blackburn home game, he made the point of saying that he'd repeat his decision to bring on Thompson for Henry, but in reality Thompson was out the door a few weeks later.
 

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The fact you don't know who the last two are shows your limited knowledge of football. One even manages in our league currently! If you are suggesting we should not hire them because you don't who they are then you don't really get the concept of the football club as a whole. Did you know who Janlet, Benrahma, Noorgard etc were before they arrived?
My knowledge of Brentford Football Club is watching us play away at the likes of macclesfield and morecambe not that long ago. Calling for the head of the most successful manager in our history shows your limited knowledge, and memory, of football and this football club.
 

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My knowledge of Brentford Football Club is watching us play away at the likes of macclesfield and morecambe not that long ago. Calling for the head of the most successful manager in our history shows your limited knowledge, and memory, of football and this football club.

TF isnt anywhere near the most successful manager in our history, although I agree with your point otherwise.
 

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Time to go Thomas Frank. At this point its f***ing embarrassing. We aren't even going to make play offs at this rate. Tactically outclassed on a weekly basis, can't even motivate this group of players to string two good halves of football together, 18 points dropped from winning positions this season, Had the best forward line the championship has ever seen last season need 2 points from 2 games to go up and we bottle it, Play off final we lose after the smug **** has been giving it billy big balls to the press. Only in that position because he decided to proceed with 3 at the back for the first third of the season where we played like sh*te. Then we move on to this season. We have a striker who has 28 league goals and is going to go on to be only the 2nd player in the last 100 years to score 30 championship goals and he still can't get it done. Benham must be furious that his millions that he has pumped in to this club and its infrastructure over the last 10 or so years is being pissed away by some fraud who pretends to be a football manager. Don't worry though i am sure we will all hear all the "Smiles" he saw in training during the international break.

Spot on, people don’t like accepting the truth. Doesn’t react or learn from previous mistakes. We dropped way too deep vs Derby yet we did the same again today at 1-0 up. We won’t progress/go up under him and that’s the harsh reality.
 

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My knowledge of Brentford Football Club is watching us play away at the likes of macclesfield and morecambe not that long ago. Calling for the head of the most successful manager in our history shows your limited knowledge, and memory, of football and this football club.

Indeed. The freakin’ state of some commentators on here defies belief. They have no idea. I’ll accept it if they’re just kiddies who weren’t around when we were playing the likes of Orient and Grimsby. For. Literally. Decades. But, if that’s the case, they need to shut up, sit down, read a book about our club’s post-war history, and then get a grip.
 

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Right........

He is doing an amazing job ffs. We are f***ing 7 points behind the team in second place in a season where the players and staff had barely had time to wipe their ass.

You can argue that we are in the position we should be on paper. I don't care if we were Favoutires to win the league. If truth be told, I wouldn't have gone near that with bargepole.

Norwich, Bournemouth, Watford all have bigger squads than us and in my opinion, better squads.

Let the man finish the season and see where we end up.

I don't argue that his future will need to be discussed If we fail again, but only to see if we can find a replacement we honestly believe to be the difference.

Let me tell you this, the teams that come down again next year will be strong, cash heavy and have top managers.

We will be close to the top two, but anybody that thinks we have the right to be cruising this division with the squad we have is barmy.

COYR
 

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My knowledge of Brentford Football Club is watching us play away at the likes of macclesfield and morecambe not that long ago. Calling for the head of the most successful manager in our history shows your limited knowledge, and memory, of football and this football club.

Haha!! the old classic fallback. I have been going to games since 2001. Just because i am not happy to sit here and admire the view and instead demanding that we strive for the very best that we can be does not make my opinion invalid! Horrendous shout for Frank being our most successful manager ever. What has he won? Nothing. His win percentage is not even better than Warbutons. You should spend the international break reading up on the club and football in general. Your horizons need to widened by the sound of things.
 

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We won’t progress/go up under him and that’s the harsh reality.

I thought we finished well outside the play offs the 2 seasons before he moved up, silly me.
 

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yes but we would have forgiven him for that ;) lol .......he was a fans manager....im really not sure tf comes into that bracket.....its one of those things

I remember when he took over and said in his first interview that one day he would be leaving Brentford to join Barcelona and the look on his face I almost believed him. Would love some of that kind of energy somewhere in the club now, much as I admire TF in lots of ways.
 

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Haha!! the old classic fallback. I have been going to games since 2001. Just because i am not happy to sit here and admire the view and instead demanding that we strive for the very best that we can be does not make my opinion invalid! Horrendous shout for Frank being our most successful manager ever. What has he won? Nothing. His win percentage is not even better than Warbutons. You should spend the international break reading up on the club and football in general. Your horizons need to widened by the sound of things.


2001

Well, you should know better then shouldn't you. Go and support Man City, they win alot.
 

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I think there is only one question that will determine TFs future: Does MB see not getting promoted this season as an unacceptable failure? I suspect the answer is probably not but what do I know
 

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I must say I find TF post match comments astonishing regarding the Notts Forest game. I thought we lacked energy and certainly the other team ran the midfield for a majority of the game.
However, I do agree we did have chances to win the game. For me the second half we lacked intensity to take the game by the scruff of the neck and produce the 3 points.
 

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I find Franks post game comments today concerning, to call that a “very very good performance” is ridiculous. If this is the message he telling the players it’s no wonder our standards have dropped.
totally bewildering......if he thinks that he needs to actually watch the WHOLE game back again and then he might decide otherwise.......in the tf hall of defending a performance this one takes some beating !!! im gonna ask the officials for a drug test immediately ;) lmbo
 

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Most people think that TF is a good coach, please explain how you quantify this, he has won nothing in his managerial career to date, only mild success was with Danish youth teams, he left Bromby from lack of success, which his chairman openly criticised him for his failures?
 

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Most people think that TF is a good coach, please explain how you quantify this, he has won nothing in his managerial career to date, only mild success was with Danish youth teams, he left Bromby from lack of success, which his chairman openly criticised him for his failures?
We are Brentford. Mourinho, Klopp and Ferguson aren't exactly queuing up
 
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