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If he’d jumped ship from Arsenal at the chance to increase his pay you might have a point. Whereas in fact this is just whataboutery.
When he was in charge of Arsenal, he was forever complaining about international football taking away "his" players and too many games etc. And after he left Arsenal 3 years ago, he could have had his choice of jobs, in all types of role.

Instead he took Saudi oil money to promote their international football/sportswashing ambitions, him a 72 y.o. who must already have plenty of money.

Perhaps it's more Hypocrisy on his part than Whataboutery on mine?
 

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When he was in charge of Arsenal, he was forever complaining about international football taking away "his" players and too many games etc. And after he left Arsenal 3 years ago, he could have had his choice of jobs, in all types of role.

Instead he took Saudi oil money to promote their international football/sportswashing ambitions, him a 72 y.o. who must already have plenty of money.

Perhaps it's more Hypocrisy on his part than Whataboutery on mine?
I’d quite like “our” players not to be going off to play internationals over the next 10 days too. Not really sure what a terrible thing it is for a manager to prefer the players he’s relying on to get his club to win leagues and cups to get a couple of weeks of rest and training than to go and play meaningless games against Andorra.

Maybe he thinks biennial World Cups are good and now he doesn’t have an interest in a club the impact it might have on individual clubs is for others.
 

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I’d quite like “our” players not to be going off to play internationals over the next 10 days too. Not really sure what a terrible thing it is for a manager to prefer the players he’s relying on to get his club to win leagues and cups to get a couple of weeks of rest and training than to go and play meaningless games against Andorra.

Maybe he thinks biennial World Cups are good and now he doesn’t have an interest in a club the impact it might have on individual clubs is for others.
Fair enough, that is your interpretation.

I interpret it differently.
 

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Frank is 25/1 for the Villa job, seems unlikely given Gerrard is now 5/6.
 

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Thomas Frank would be a really good international coach, and honestly I wouldn’t want him to turn down the chance of managing Denmark if it came up, especially with how good their National side is at the moment.

But realistically he will only get that opportunity if the incumbent is poached and that seems unlikely at the moment.
 

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Judging by what I read in your comments I suggest you keep your rants and your "analysis" of our players to yourself as they portray you as neither a qualified "coach" with any knowledge of football.nor an individual who can accept that we are in a league in which we have no divine right to expect to beat anyone
You are fond of scapegoats ..Vibe, Sawyers, Canos and now Jensen...and you have been proved to be wrong. on all counts!
No true fan likes seeing their team.get beat but it happens..get over it. I still reckon we are good enough to stay up whereas I.recall you writing off our chances of even getting promoted last year.

.TF is the best and most successful manager I have had in over 50 years of supporting Brentford..I don,'t think you can teach him anything.
Where you banging really hard on your keyboard when writing that rubbish ? Just asking for a friend 👍 I blame the proliference of hard drugs easily available thesedays…especially up north 😆😆
 

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That's good news indeed. Now i'm worried about TF for Rangers :(
Seriously, what English Premier League Manager is going to go and manage Rangers, unless they have some previous affinity with the club? Plus he'd probably have to accept a pay cut too.
 

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Frank is 25/1 for the Villa job, seems unlikely given Gerrard is now 5/6.
I don’t see him taking the Villa job, I think there is a project here this year and if he keeps us up he’ll have plenty of options in the summer. If he takes the Rangers job I’d seriously question his ambition, but I don’t believe for a second he will.
 

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I reckon we have had three bad 'halves' - West Ham second half and the first half at Burnley and yesterday.

Overall a pretty good record for a promoted club but sadly the latter two cost us dear as there were 6 points for the taking.

Newcastle will be tough with a new manager, new owners and 52,000 Geordies supporting their team but it has to be onwards and upwards from now on.
Don't think you can put the second half at West Ham in the same bracket as the first half against Norwich, can't comment on Burnley as I wasn't there.

We were under the cosh, but thought we defended well, and ultimately came out on top.
 

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Why would he go to a club that sacks you after a 5 game losing run ? And who buy players before they have worked out how they are going to integrate them - and then don’t allow the manager time to figure this out ?
Thomas is the lowest paid manager in the Premier League and Villa’s transfer kitty is miles ahead of ours.
 
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Thomas is the lowest paid manager in the Premier League and Villa’s transfer kitty is miles ahead of ours.
I’d counter that with:
1. TF may be due a new contract very soon
2. Villas bigger budget spend on their new players has not yet been shown to be effective
3. Management there seem less realistic about the time it takes to bed in players, and the transitory nature of losing runs. A number of other (big) clubs have lost a number of games in a row - including Brentford.
 

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Article Says he is second on the list for villa job should we be worried
 

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Article Says he is second on the list for villa job should we be worried
No because then we can get Deano :sorted:
 

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Article Says he is second on the list for villa job should we be worried
I think I’m on that list as my name is linked to Brentford on an internet search.
 

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It matters not. Thomas is a Bee, until he decides to retire from football
altogether to go home to Denmark, or go travelling with Mrs F again.
 

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No because then we can get Deano :sorted:

Yep, IF TF were to leave (I highly doubt he will especially as Gerrard now odds on for Villa job) I couldn’t think of a better replacement this far into the season than DS. Knows the club, knows the set-up and staff etc.

It may be different if we had a vacancy to fill at the end of the season but it for whatever reason we found ourselves without a HC mid-season he’d be ideal.

TF won’t be leaving though so it’s all moot!
 

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In reality, whilst we are always a bus stop in Hounslow, I reckon there are more people out there, players and developing Head Coaches, who would very much like to wait at our bus stop, stick their hand out (it’s a request stop!), and hop on board the Brentford bus.

TF knows absolutely what we are all about, and he knows the tolerance level at so many other clubs is almost non-existent, and that you’ll be kicked off their bus at a mere whim. Plus many clubs do not have the foggiest idea where their bus is headed.
TF saw, even within 2 hours of beating us 2-1, as last Saturday, the winning Head Coach being told to “Farke off"!

(I just wondered whether that dismissal happened at our stadium, at a local hotel, surely not on the team bus, but perhaps in the back of the owners limousine!)
 

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In reality, whilst we are always a bus stop in Hounslow, I reckon there are more people out there, players and developing Head Coaches, who would very much like to wait at our bus stop, stick their hand out (it’s a request stop!), and hop on board the Brentford bus.

TF knows absolutely what we are all about, and he knows the tolerance level at so many other clubs is almost non-existent, and that you’ll be kicked off their bus at a mere whim. Plus many clubs do not have the foggiest idea where their bus is headed.
TF saw, even within 2 hours of beating us 2-1, as last Saturday, the winning Head Coach being told to “Farke off"!

(I just wondered whether that dismissal happened at our stadium, at a local hotel, surely not on the team bus, but perhaps in the back of the owners limousine!)

It apparently happened in the away changing room after it had cleared out. Farke went back from doing his media interviews to find Stewart Webber waiting for him.

Hopefully that changing room is forever cursed as a result!
 

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It apparently happened in the away changing room after it had cleared out. Farke went back from doing his media interviews to find Stewart Webber waiting for him.

Hopefully that changing room is forever cursed as a result!
The ManU game?
 

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It apparently happened in the away changing room after it had cleared out. Farke went back from doing his media interviews to find Stewart Webber waiting for him.

Hopefully that changing room is forever cursed as a result!

Perhaps a plaque should be put on the wall in that changing room, to commemorate the event, and to "warn" visiting teams -

"If you win here, your Head Coach may be sacked in this changing room post match"!
 

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It apparently happened in the away changing room after it had cleared out. Farke went back from doing his media interviews to find Stewart Webber waiting for him.

Hopefully that changing room is forever cursed as a result!
Yep, that's what I heard too. The Norwich coach was hanging around longer than expected with the players already on it and then an official rocked up and removed a few bags from it before it drove off. Sounds like they not only sacked him but left him stranded in London. Classy way to treat a man who won the Championship twice in three years!
 
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Properly Farked off then. If you're going to go on the piss after a bad day, you're not hurrying back to do it in Norwich are you?
 

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Yep, that's what I heard too. The Norwich coach was hanging around longer than expected with the players already on it and then an official rocked up and removed a few bags from it before it drove off. Sounds like they not only sacked him but left him stranded in London. Classy way to treat a man who won the Championship twice in three years!
Imagine trying to explain that to the wife
 

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Has to be one of the most bonkers posts ive read in ages and theres been some over the last 2-3 seasons.

As @nick logan said.......................... WTF?!?!?!?! :LOL: :redcard:
Why would we want Deano back we haved moved on since he left and gone up several levels if i remember not that consistent win a few lose a few and not a good idea to go back dont often work out.I think Neil macfarlane will be the next head coach if thomas leaves but lets hope he is here for many years yet.

 

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Why would we want Deano back we haved moved on since he left and gone up several levels if i remember not that consistent win a few lose a few and not a good idea to go back dont often work out.I think Neil macfarlane will be the next head coach if thomas leaves but lets hope he is here for many years yet.

Cannot agree with that one, he does not fit the mould.
 

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Why would we want Deano back we haved moved on since he left and gone up several levels if i remember not that consistent win a few lose a few and not a good idea to go back dont often work out.I think Neil macfarlane will be the next head coach if thomas leaves but lets hope he is here for many years yet.

Our wage bill is a lot bigger since then. Not that I would want TF to leave but if he did tomorrow then I’d have no problem with DS on an interim basis.
 

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Why would we want Deano back we haved moved on since he left and gone up several levels if i remember not that consistent win a few lose a few and not a good idea to go back dont often work out.I think Neil macfarlane will be the next head coach if thomas leaves but lets hope he is here for many years yet.


So a bloke who’s never managed higher than the sixth tier would be good enough but one that took Villa into the PL and established them (not to mention doing a decent job with us) wouldn’t? Pretty sure Neil McF was brought in due to his ability to develop young players, not sure he’s seen as a future HC.

As I said, I don’t see TF going but if he did DS would be the ideal replacement mid-season if only on a relatively short deal.
 

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Why would we want Deano back we haved moved on since he left and gone up several levels if i remember not that consistent win a few lose a few and not a good idea to go back dont often work out.I think Neil macfarlane will be the next head coach if thomas leaves but lets hope he is here for many years yet.


Yes ups and downs like any other manager in my Brentford supporting life. But what he did was play an entertaining brand of football and pushed us to a level where TF was able to take us a step further.

To say it didnt work is very harsh.
 

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Why would we want Deano back we haved moved on since he left and gone up several levels if i remember not that consistent win a few lose a few and not a good idea to go back dont often work out.I think Neil macfarlane will be the next head coach if thomas leaves but lets hope he is here for many years yet.

Don't you ever pause for breath when you are talking, or writing?
 

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Let us hope it is better quality than the pre-Tottenham press conference on you tube. The audio is poor and Thomas is barely visible most of the time. One of the worst, least professional YouTube videos I have seen.
 
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