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I avoid the nutcases on Twitter normally but some of the comments made at the announcement of Thomas' birthday are so sad. We are one team - owner, coach, players and fans and this sort of stuff is so corrosive.

Beem said before, we have some srious bell ends following our club. But im told to let people support the club their way
 

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It's obvious from the 1+1 contract that Karelis signed that he was a gamble. I also hear that he hasn't trained until recently because of various (quasi legal) complications. So I don't expect to see him start anytime soon.

Seems very odd that he wouldn't train regardless of any legal wranglings......unless you're saying the wranglings specifically prevented him from training (ie an insurance issue or something)?
 

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Seems very odd that he wouldn't train regardless of any legal wranglings......unless you're saying the wranglings specifically prevented him from training (ie an insurance issue or something)?
Is it related to insurance on his historic ACL injury? I read somewhere that the club doesn't insure their players against long term injury absences but it's a big jump to think this is the underlying reason.
 
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Is it related to insurance on his historic ACL injury? I read somewhere that the club doesn't insure their players against long term injury absences but it's a big jump to think this is the underlying reason.

I was trying to draw inference from the fact it'd be very odd not to train, regardless of legal/contractual wranglings, unless there was a specific reason preventing it. Perfectly logical......but no reason to think it's right either ;)
 

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I'm kind of with Magic on this. Strikers are a bit of a special breed (and yes, there have been some very successful conversions - Thierry Henry and Chris Sutton to name but two) and I would always play my specialist. For example, if our first choice keeper was out for any reason there is no way we'd say "let's stick Pontus in goal and see how he gets on" - we'd play the next keeper in line. Similarly, since we had no Maupay, or a replacement for him, I think Forss should have been given the role in the interim (possibly making it his own!!) I've picked an extreme example with the Goalkeeper position but hopefully you get my point.

Now is the time to give Karelis a start. If it works, great, if it doesn't we revert to Plan B or even C (Ollie or Bryan)

I believe Forss will come back a much better player then if he stay here this season. Clearly TF doesnt think he was ready for the Championship otherwise he would have started as he was our only striker. Playing every week is more of a benefit then the odd 10 minutes at the end of the game. Im looking forward to seeing hin really fighting for a first team place next season.
 

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Got to feel for him with the loss of Sergi. Needs a few players to step up now.
 

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Got to feel for him with the loss of Sergi. Needs a few players to step up now.

he'll be fine. The International break has come at a good time for a change as it allows some players to get their fitness levels up a bit and also for him to work with the players who are on the fringes. Need to start seeing something from the likes of Mbuemo and Valencia. Looking ahead our fixtures up until the end of November are actually quite reasonable. Only really tricky ones are away to Swansea and at QPR which is always a bit of a lottery, particularly this year with Warbs there..
 

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Watched the interview with Brian Riemer. Apparently the opposition asked for it not to be disclosed who they were, which implies that they were a Premier League team.
 

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Watched the interview with Brian Riemer. Apparently the opposition asked for it not to be disclosed who they were, which implies that they were a Premier League team.

Probably because Roy Hodgson wanted to keep it quiet,
 

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Probably because Roy Hodgson wanted to keep it quiet,

We played England? :fishing: No wonder they were sh*t last night.... oh hang on....... :grey:
 

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Watched the interview with Brian Riemer. Apparently the opposition asked for it not to be disclosed who they were, which implies that they were a Premier League team.

Spurs. They need the practice!
 

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Must have wanted his own private viewing of ollie without all the background noise
 

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Must have wanted his own private viewing of ollie without all the background noise

By the sound of things, Ollie didn't play...

He didn't...........

Brentford line-up: Daniels; Clarke, O’Connor, Pinnock, Thompson; Mathias Jensen, Yearwood (sub Reed 70 mins), Dasilva; Valencia, Karelis, Christian Tue Jensen (sub Coote 70 mins)

Subs (not used): Raya, Tsaroulla, Brissett
 

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Been our head coach for exactly a year. The same divs on twitter who wanted Smith out all the time have weighed in on BFC twitter post, which marks the anniversary, giving it the full Frank Out treatment.
 

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Been our head coach for exactly a year. The same divs on twitter who wanted Smith out all the time have weighed in on BFC twitter post, which marks the anniversary, giving it the full Frank Out treatment.

I don't do Twitter but I did just take a look at the comments, what a poisonous platform it is.

Some grown men on there who really need to have a good, long look at themselves.
 

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I don't do Twitter but I did just take a look at the comments, what a poisonous platform it is.

Some grown men on there who really need to have a good, long look at themselves.

Twitter is horrible.
 
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Not on either. Best I think.

Facebook is banal sh*t generally but Twitter can be fabulous when it isn't drowned out by idiots. An example - tonight I learnt via Omid Djalli that actress Hedy Lamarr is accredited as inventing something in World War 2 that is seen as a forerunner for WifI and Bluetooth technology.
 

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Facebook is banal sh*t generally but Twitter can be fabulous when it isn't drowned out by idiots. An example - tonight I learnt via Omid Djalli that actress Hedy Lamarr is accredited as inventing something in World War 2 that is seen as a forerunner for WifI and Bluetooth technology.

True! She worked in collaboration with the composer George Antheil ("Ballet Mechanique") on developing a torpedo guidance system based on frequency hopping:
https://www.aps.org/publications/apsnews/201106/physicshistory.cfm
 

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Facebook is banal sh*t generally but Twitter can be fabulous when it isn't drowned out by idiots. An example - tonight I learnt via Omid Djalli that actress Hedy Lamarr is accredited as inventing something in World War 2 that is seen as a forerunner for WifI and Bluetooth technology.

There was a film on BBC last night about her, and I remember watching a programme about her a few weeks ago. A very bright woman and underrated during her lifetime.
 

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Well I did read on twitter that TF has lost more games than hes drawn, and drawn more games than he's won. Is this true?

If so, it's a worse record for his first 12 months in charge than I thought.
 

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The Brentford Twitterati avalanche on Thomas Frank brings up an age-old question: Is it better to flog a dead horse than a live horse?
 

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As of match played 5 October 2019
Managerial record


Brentford
16 October 2018
Present
Played 49
Won 17
Drawn 12
Lost 20
34.7 %
 

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As of match played 5 October 2019
Managerial record


Brentford
16 October 2018
Present
Played 49
Won 17
Drawn 12
Lost 20
34.7 %

Statistics are meaningless without the context of circumstance.
 

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Next month or so fixtures are pretty reasonable. You'd hope we'd be able to pick up a fair amount of points. Only really tricky game is Swansea away. If we haven't done very well in those games then maybe the club will have to look at where we're going but I expect us to pick up significantly over November..
 

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As of match played 5 October 2019
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16 October 2018
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Played 49
Won 17
Drawn 12
Lost 20
34.7 %

I've just done a bit of working out and Dean Smith's record after 49 was a little worse.

15/16 started on 5th December 2015

P 29 W 12 D 4 L 13

16/17 I've counted the first 20 up to Norwich away

P 20 W 6 D 4 L 10

For the whole of his second season, it was

P 49 W 19 D 10 L 20

As the Wikipedia stats include cup games, I've counted those for DS.
 
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I've just done a bit of working out and Dean Smith's record after 49 was a little worse.

15/16 started on 5th December 2015

P 29 W 12 D 4 L 13

16/17 I've counted the first 20 up to Norwich away

P 20 W 6 D 4 L 10

For the whole of his second season, it was

P 49 W 19 D 10 L 20

As the Wikipedia stats include cup games, I've counted those for DS.

**** off with your "facts". :fishing:
 

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Surely time must now be running out for Frank, same mistakes, same boring football, no pace, looks like the veterans are playing not super fit athletes.

Penalty was a joke, no leadership, toothless, this team lacks inspiration from the top or has Frank lost the dressing room?:very angry::mad:
 

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Surely time must now be running out for Frank, same mistakes, same boring football, no pace, looks like the veterans are playing not super fit athletes.

Penalty was a joke, no leadership, toothless, this team lacks inspiration from the top or has Frank lost the dressing room?:very angry::mad:

:thumbs:
 

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Surely time must now be running out for Frank, same mistakes, same boring football, no pace, looks like the veterans are playing not super fit athletes.

Penalty was a joke, no leadership, toothless, this team lacks inspiration from the top or has Frank lost the dressing room?:very angry::mad:

I imagine the dressing room’s pretty cheery.
 

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Surely time must now be running out for Frank, same mistakes, same boring football, no pace, looks like the veterans are playing not super fit athletes.

Penalty was a joke, no leadership, toothless, this team lacks inspiration from the top or has Frank lost the dressing room?:very angry::mad:

Great post how are you feeling
 
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