Time for us fans to show our support for Matthew Benham

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Christ. Some people on this thread have put themselves forward for the Legends and Bellends thread.

Without MB, we would be in the conference or worse. The job MW has done has been fantastic and whenever he leaves, he will always be held in high regard by the BFC supporters.

However, what's happened has happened (no need to repeat here. FMP is a Scouse waanker and MW will be shortly leaving as manager). The club needs to move on whilst a promotion push remains a possibility.

The fact that MB was willing to invest millions more in the January window speaks volumes for his vision for the club, both as the owner and longstanding fan.

I wonder if those questionning MB were there when we marched with a coffin to Woking or when we had it out with Noades on the steps of the Braemar forecourt or when we shook buckets in the pissing rain.

What do they think MB is hoping to get out of Brentford? He's already put in £90m with absolutely no guarantee of getting a penny back.

The good times in the last 15 months will not be forgotten but now its time for a full scale assault on behalf of team MB.
 
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OK so lets assume Mark leaves, does DW go as well and who's going to take over ?
Yes. As for caretaker, Lee Carsley & KOC, then it's up to MB and co. to seek a new man and to get this club up and running again.
 

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I can't believe people have abused Mr Benham. Truly stunned, I thought our support was better than that. A very tough day. Up the Bees.
 

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Change the MONEY record. .there is a game called football involved here too which is being completely
dismissed by some people
Not at all. Football is the game our club play. Without the funding from MB, we wouldn't be where we are now; a squad many of us haven't seen the like of - yes it has been a bad day at Charlton - a training facility being brought up to date and on par with some of the better championship sides, an academy many clubs higher than us are envious of and a ground on the way being funded by a supporter who has had a very hard week. So without the moneyman, MB, we we would floundering in League 2 or quite easily the conference. So the money is as important as the football. Without it, we have no football.
 

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To the tune of the Sammy Saunders song:

Oh Matthew Benham,
You bought us Lionel Road,
Oh Matthew Benham,
So different to Ron Noades
Oh Matthew Benham,
Without you where would we be??

Oh Matthew Benham,
And your Development Squad,
Oh Matthew Benham,
A true Bees Demi-God,
Oh Matthew Benham,
Without you where would we be??
 

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To be honest everyone including me needs to shut up until we know the real facts, that way we wont have unnecessary 'fights'
I think this has been the overall consensus since 6pm (or thereabouts) last Thursday or some 900 plus posts since the "news".
What IS plainly obvious now is the amount of aggro that this situation has created and the long term repercussions this might have.
We already effectively have a Benham supporting thread v a Warburton supporting group and it's creating some unpleasant comments but more seriously is splitting up the so called "Brentford family".
It took Wimbledon a long time for their fans to sort out their differences over a move to another ground - surely we aren't going to have the same long term hangover.
For my part I don't think any more comments on this topic is in any way constructive - why don't we all agree to do what we said early on in this saga. No comment until we get officail statements?
 

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I can't believe people have abused Mr Benham. Truly stunned, I thought our support was better than that. A very tough day. Up the Bees.
Seen plenty of messages criticizing him especially in the last few hours. A few of the younger supporters might want to read a few of the history books we have in the club shop and see what a real crisis is when you have a disruptive owner. Matthew couldn't be anymore different to some we've had in the past.
 

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OK so lets assume Mark leaves, does DW go as well and who's going to take over ?
I think a stop gap coach is needed perhaps from outside,if you realistically want to get top six...wouldn't be too optimistic with carsley and KOC.

If you want attacking attractive football you need someone who was well known for it.


perhaps Glenn Hoddle as a stop gap.

Prepare for Rangers pelters...

He was working with Arry's Asbeens..not proper talent like we have.

Just a suggestion...
 
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To the tune of the Sammy Saunders song:

Oh Matthew Benham,
You bought us Lionel Road,
Oh Matthew Benham,
So different to Ron Noades
Oh Matthew Benham,
Without you where would we be??

Oh Matthew Benham,
And your Development Squad,
Oh Matthew Benham,
A true Bees Demi-God,
Oh Matthew Benham,
Without you where would we be??

With all due respects and I hear your sentiments but even after a good day drinking that is absolute ***** lol
 

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To the tune of the Sammy Saunders song:

Oh Matthew Benham,
You bought us Lionel Road,
Oh Matthew Benham,
So different to Ron Noades
Oh Matthew Benham,
Without you where would we be??

Oh Matthew Benham,
And your Development Squad,
Oh Matthew Benham,
A true Bees Demi-God,
Oh Matthew Benham,
Without you where would we be??
:yawn::yawn::yawn:
 

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What if the owner's vision is flawed. He might know how to make buckets of money and have the greatest understanding of football stats and undoubtedly got us where we are; but the psychology and man management may not be his forte. It certainly was Warbs. We need a blend of both.
No, not at all. Love Warbs but he is there to deliver the owner's vision in the way the owner wants.
 

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What if the owner's vision is flawed. He might know how to make buckets of money and have the greatest understanding of football stats and undoubtedly got us where we are; but the psychology and man management may not be his forte. It certainly was Warbs. We need a blend of both.
He who pays the piper calls the tune my friend.
 

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All I can say now is I'm genuinely worried. I just think some people have to have a very long and very hard think about consequences here - Lionel Road, Championship, Jota, £1m+ signings, Cat 2 towards Cat 1 academy, Uxbridge training facility, under age groups competing with the best, Blunstone being proved right ffs - can you imagine putting that at a risk for a manager who everyone would turn on if we lost 4 on a spin in the future? It just seems madness to me.
 

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What if the owner's vision is flawed. He might know how to make buckets of money and have the greatest understanding of football stats and undoubtedly got us where we are; but the psychology and man management may not be his forte. It certainly was Warbs. We need a blend of both.
This is how I see it.

Can't fault Benham's commitment, but good managers don't grow on trees. But it's his decision at the end of the day, and all Bees fans are in his debt.

Benham has earned the right to do things as he pleases, and Warburton has earned the right to manage a club the way he wants. There's the impasse. This is such a shame :(
 

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Nobody on here wants promotion anyway do they? Warburton was in danger of achieving it.
 

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All I can say now is I'm genuinely worried. I just think some people have to have a very long and very hard think about consequences here - Lionel Road, Championship, Jota, £1m+ signings, Cat 2 towards Cat 1 academy, Uxbridge training facility, under age groups competing with the best, Blunstone being proved right ffs - can you imagine putting that at a risk for a manager who everyone would turn on if we lost 5 on a spin in the future? It just seems madness to me.
the players all seem very pro-warburton unless i'm mistaken, that worries me a lot as whilst we were unlucky tuesday by the sounds of things they were not up for it today at all. if MW leaves what will the effect will happen with the playing staff, i just cant see it being positive? not that i'd choose MW over MB but this doesnt look like its going to have any sort of good or positive ending for bfc.
 

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the players all seem very pro-warburton unless i'm mistaken, that worries me a lot as whilst we were unlucky tuesday by the sounds of things they were not up for it today at all. if MW leaves what will the effect will happen with the playing staff, i just cant see it being positive? not that i'd choose MW over MB but this doesnt look like its going to have any sort of good or positive ending for bfc.
Of course players will remain loyal to the an who's putting them in the team. I suspect players are almost paranoid about losing their job so any change must petrify them. However, MW goes, the next man comes in and they will all fight just as hard to prove themselves to the new person.
 

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So.........

They argue about transfers and coaching staff

It's been for a while but all very hush hush

Benham looks and speaks to a Spanish coach

Someone grasses on him and tells the media

Warburton finds out from a friend the morning of the watford fixture

Terrible statement realised

Team and fans go into depression

In short, am I correct.

If so, what a **** up.
 

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If I was MB I'd be playing the patient game and waiting for LR to be sorted. Going up now would be too soon?
This seems to be backed by the recent transfers that are for the future.
If this is true, MW may well be voicing his impatience, which is understandable as we seem to be a couple of transfers away from going up.
I'm happy with MB's long term strategy; all decent business men have one?! Of course it comes at a price.....
 

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So.........

They argue about transfers and coaching staff

It's been for a while but all very hush hush

Benham looks and speaks to a Spanish coach

Someone grasses on him and tells the media

Warburton finds out from a friend the morning of the watford fixture

Terrible statement realised

Team and fans go into depression

In short, am I correct.

If so, what a **** up.
I don't think line 5 is correct.
 

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I think this has been the overall consensus since 6pm (or thereabouts) last Thursday or some 900 plus posts since the "news".
What IS plainly obvious now is the amount of aggro that this situation has created and the long term repercussions this might have.
We already effectively have a Benham supporting thread v a Warburton supporting group and it's creating some unpleasant comments but more seriously is splitting up the so called "Brentford family".
It took Wimbledon a long time for their fans to sort out their differences over a move to another ground - surely we aren't going to have the same long term hangover.
For my part I don't think any more comments on this topic is in any way constructive - why don't we all agree to do what we said early on in this saga. No comment until we get officail statements?
Is it safe to assume that those in the warburton camp are fairly new to the bees experience and have only been coming to GP since playing chelsea in the cup last year, and know nothing of our previous struggles and hardship. Players and managers come and go, Matthew is one of us and we are lucky to have him.
 

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I don't think line 5 is correct.
Yes I agree.

I'm so bloody upset. I love them both and it such a shame.

4th in league, spirits high, best football in God knows everyone raving.... My big question is has the grass actually caused the turmoil.

If this happened and came out in May, we would be shocked but players would have known nothing
 

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54 bloody years supporting the Bee's,seen all the up's and downs and downs and downs......I can not believe that OUR support is divided on the issue of MB or MW?
Without MB there would be no club,it would be in the hands of a supporters trust in the Ryman!

I thank MW and for all he has done and I sincerely wished that he could continue, BUT if MB offered the money to strengthen then MW should have done as wished,he didn't so it's a goodbye to MW from me.
It is plainly obvious and has been for a long while that our squad has not got the strength to even contemplate a top 2, play off may still be possible,but we need to get some loanee's in and quick.
If we even get to the play off and get promoted our team would change beyond recognition.......(Tell me how many existing players will make it in the prem?).

I am not being unkind to anyone,however it is time to say thank you and goodbye to MW and embrace the future in MB......I hope I survive long enough to see BFC in the top tier......I BEELIEVE!!
 

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As much as I am (95%) in the 'Benham camp', it seems to have been gathering momentum on here all day, and is now being quoted as fact, that the main reason for this mess is that MB wanted to splash the cash and MW wasn't keen......i might have missed it somewhere.along the line, but what is the source for this theory??.....
 

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Why wouldn't Warbs want to spend money if MB said the cash was available to strengthen the squad, that doesn't make any sense. Unless MB was saying here's the cash and I want us to sign Carlton Cole, Ravel Morrison and Nile Ranger.
 

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I'm sure everyone remembers this from our childhood

Asop. (Sixth century B.C.) Fables said:
The Goose With the Golden Egg


ONE day a countryman going to the nest of his Goose found there an egg all yellow and glittering. When he took it up it was as heavy as lead and he was going to throw it away, because he thought a trick had been played upon him. But he took it home on second thoughts, and soon found to his delight that it was an egg of pure gold. Every morning the same thing occurred, and he soon became rich by selling his eggs. As he grew rich he grew greedy; and thinking to get at once all the gold the Goose could give, he killed it and opened it only to find,—nothing.
 

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If I was MB I'd be playing the patient game and waiting for LR to be sorted. Going up now would be too soon?
This seems to be backed by the recent transfers that are for the future.
If this is true, MW may well be voicing his impatience, which is understandable as we seem to be a couple of transfers away from going up.
I'm happy with MB's long term strategy; all decent business men have one?! Of course it comes at a price.....
Erm have I just woken from a coma. Haven't we got 100's of posts suggesting it's the other way around? Lord give me strength!
 

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Some people love the sound of their own voice don't they
Some people know what there talking about, you don't. Nothing wrong with that, cos neither do I. But don;t go jumping in feet first. I did the same thing. You only have to read most posts to learn this is something serious imo
 

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As much as I am (95%) in the 'Benham camp', it seems to have been gathering momentum on here all day, and is now being quoted as fact, that the main reason for this mess is that MB wanted to splash the cash and MW wasn't keen......i might have missed it somewhere.along the line, but what is the source for this theory??.....
According to the newspapers MW didn't want to sign one or more foreign players that he hadn't seen play but had been targeted by the owner. None of us know if this is true or not (though some are convinced they do). Even if it were true, many might think that such a position would not be completely unreasonable.
 

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As much as I am (95%) in the 'Benham camp', it seems to have been gathering momentum on here all day, and is now being quoted as fact, that the main reason for this mess is that MB wanted to splash the cash and MW wasn't keen......i might have missed it somewhere.along the line, but what is the source for this theory??.....
In the interview after the Charlton match MW said this was not an issue. So not a fact. At best second guessing. At worst.......
 

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According to the newspapers MW didn't want to sign one or more foreign players that he hadn't seen play but had been targeted by the owner. None of us know if this is true or not (though some are convinced they do). Even if it were true, many might think that such a position would not be completely unreasonable.
Oh not this nonsense!

Did he see Jota before he was signed? How about Toral?

All this is the press being briefed with half-truths off-the-record.
 

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Oh not this nonsense!

Did he see Jota before he was signed? How about Toral?

All this is the press being briefed with half-truths off-the-record.
So if we are saying that the reason for the 'tiff' is nothing to do with MW being unhappy about new players coming in...........what IS the problem??.......
 

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Forget all the bullshit ,worst performanceive seen for a long time subs crap and some players not putting a shift in well muff you must be happy to play us next week warbs / benham sought it out i want to go up
 

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