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Too Many Away Fans in Home GA Areas (split thread)
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Indian Bee
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Thanks but I never understood it why the club don’t try to sell these tickets they are holding back earlier. There are some fans whom need to make various arrangements to attend a game. I have just noticed a trend this year that more tickets suddenly become available when we are told it is sold out.
No. There is a PL requirement to make a percentage of tickets available to non-STHers.
WestStandBee
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Apologies, never thought about that. Your spot on.
What is that percentage and would that include lounge seats etc?
horshambees
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horshambees
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I met one person who did early season.
I shook my head and walked off.
Liverpool at home.
horshambees
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I always like to say in context which I should have done earlier.
Apologies mate.
5%. It doesn't make it clear what 5% refers to, but it would seem reasonable for it to be 5% of the home tickets. So 17,500 - 1,750 = 15,250 * 5% = 762
Isleworth_Bee
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I would like to know if the club actually know about our real concerns around this and if they actually care?
Meetings are happening next week.
So they DO have room for more STHs
thanks
rebus
On my final warning
It could players and staff unbought allocation etc.
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Indian Bee
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Yep that did enter my mind. But surely they should give a time limit for them to take up these tickets. I know one supporter whom has been faffing around earlier on this week trying to get a ticket. He has one now (through the TE) but not sure how he will react when he sees more tickets are available and the club selling these a day before the match. If the club says it is sold out it should mean it.
Same as TE tbh, if the seats are reserved it counts as being sold out.
Is very annoying when you accept what you're given, to find out there's more seats available in the place you'd rather be though
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Indian Bee
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Agree with all that. I be interested to know if anyone can access it what part of the ground these tickets are and how many ..
As of now (half hour after release) 2 in W, 7 in S, 28 in a block in N and 98 across East
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A few will be people returning tickets because they can't make it. Had to do it twice this season myself with a family members tickets - circumstances in the day or so before the match meant they couldn't make it. It's super annoying for people who couldn't get tickets in original waves, or see a better spot free up, but I'd say still better the tickets get used in the end rather than an empty spot entirely.
taxi driver
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They are not going to sit and jointly plan with BIAS as they’ve made up their minds already.
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If Brentford had a professional off-field, fan-orientated focus then the Director of Fan Engagement (or whatever her title is) would - very, very obviously - be up to speed with what the, well, fans, are saying on social media and on this site, amongst other sources of insight into what the club’s customers think.
On that basis - there’s no chance the club actually know about our real concerns, and they certainly don’t care.
Billy Hunt
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I think I just have tooI've just joined
Paul O'Brien
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To be honest, when we played at Chelsea away in the Cup replay a few years ago, my wife, son and I couldn't get home tickets - but we got tickets in the Chelsea end !!!?) We had a few nasty looks early on from a lad who looked like a 10-year old pitbull, so we kept very quiet. But we didn't disrespect anyone. As a result, I can't criticise people for doing the same as away fans at the BCS.
moribee
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Why. Surely the club should control its own allocation
Herbert
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You really want to compare us to a 45,000 capacity stadium & global brand club aimed to have tourists
JCMcBee
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.....do they keep a record of those ejected from various sections of the ground...be interesting to hear figures if so.
taxi driver
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Billy Hunt
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braunton bee
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Bees fans selling tickets to Man Utd fans doesn’t help
Paul O'Brien
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I know it's downgrading us, but sometimes you just have to bite the bullet.
rebus
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Brentford seats for Brentford fans. Keep reminding yourself of this.
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Herbert
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Simple. Ban them
Comic Book Guy
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Joined shortly ago. Hopefully for those who can get to most games, something changes for the better in this regard.Brentford seats for Brentford fans. Keep reminding yourself of this.
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Me too.I think I just have too
coconino
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JoinedBrentford seats for Brentford fans. Keep reminding yourself of this.
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(dunno why I hadn’t already)
Mikey Bee
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Interesting to hear...on an unofficial supporters forum.
Would it not be in the clubs best interests to make this kind of information available on the OS? Y'know, in the interests of transparency and as a point of reference to people complaining about such things?
As so many others have said, we have done so many things right on the playing front in last few years that I don't recognise the club from when I first started coming but off the field? If anything, we've got worse.
Anyway, I'm off to the BIAS website to sign up to fight the good fight
Me too. Thanks for pushing this @rebusJoined
rebus
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Fantastic. The more that join, the more they can’t ignore us. Imagine 4,000 members = impossible to ignore.
horshambees
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Wolves fans in hospitality today.
Read it on their forum.
£100 tickets and the club sold them to the boys with thick Black Country accents.
Mr Varney can stick his email where the sun doesn't shine.
Read it on their forum.
£100 tickets and the club sold them to the boys with thick Black Country accents.
Mr Varney can stick his email where the sun doesn't shine.
Raise The Roof
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@rebus, great work. Should there also be a dedicated thread headlined, “have you joined BIAS yet -if not why not?”Also could BU put something in their excellent newsletter (latest version received today)? John Scott has done a magnificent job relinking with their historic base, so there is a few thousand there to bat at.
Raise The Roof
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Given the BIAS recruitment drive, amid lots of discussions on club fair ticket pricing for next season , and club season ticket issuing and pricing strategy for next season, I thought I would check out what BIASs Manifesto says on the subject. The nearest I got to this, was the otherwise excellent para 6 on moving to BCS. (see below)
While it mentions ticketing (and there is a Ticket System subgroup), there is little else on this huge topic for debate. Should we as BIAS members be considering strengthening the Manifesto with respect to how we work with the club on future Ticketing policy ?
While it mentions ticketing (and there is a Ticket System subgroup), there is little else on this huge topic for debate. Should we as BIAS members be considering strengthening the Manifesto with respect to how we work with the club on future Ticketing policy ?
- work closely with Brentford Football Club to ensure a successful transition from Griffin Park to the new stadium at Lionel Road to include:
- the impact of the Coronavirus pandemic on the Club and our supporters including the safe return of fans to the new stadium in a fair and transparent way
- providing feedback to the Club on issues impacting the match day experience at the new stadium e.g. transport, technology, catering, ticketing, locations and atmosphere and provide feedback to the membership
- options for safe standing at the new stadium when full attendances are allowed at football matches
Raise The Roof
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AB said:
Also I really don’t want to see the club starting to offer NFTs or other dubious digital “fan engagement” nonsense. Not least because I don’t think I could bear the 100 page thread of people trying to explain WTF it all means to moribee and nanny58 (both of whom I’d be completely onside with on this).
While I’m on a roll, (and quoting @AB above) could I also propose a possible enhancement to the BIAS Manifesto, to seek to discuss creation of a “Club Partner Charter” (if one doesn’t already exist) that would govern :
(1) the Club would commit to consult with fans before launching any NFT (or similar issue) and
(2) what limits on access Club Partners should have to fans and club staff - example being the recent puff-piece interview with Lee Dykes (equating trading players for trading currency?) - seemingly aimed at encouraging fans to open Coinjar accounts.
Also I really don’t want to see the club starting to offer NFTs or other dubious digital “fan engagement” nonsense. Not least because I don’t think I could bear the 100 page thread of people trying to explain WTF it all means to moribee and nanny58 (both of whom I’d be completely onside with on this).
While I’m on a roll, (and quoting @AB above) could I also propose a possible enhancement to the BIAS Manifesto, to seek to discuss creation of a “Club Partner Charter” (if one doesn’t already exist) that would govern :
(1) the Club would commit to consult with fans before launching any NFT (or similar issue) and
(2) what limits on access Club Partners should have to fans and club staff - example being the recent puff-piece interview with Lee Dykes (equating trading players for trading currency?) - seemingly aimed at encouraging fans to open Coinjar accounts.
fencer/bee
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What will it take for Brentford to realize it will kick off sooner or later, ive spoken to the head of premium seating over the phone, to be honest i don't think she has a clue, in the conversation she just wouldn't acknowledge that its a problem, .. just hope i don't have to say " i told you so " to many times
'Ayes B
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It becomes a problem when home fans dont renew and instead choose to save thier money and to sit amongst home fans.What will it take for Brentford to realize it will kick off sooner or later, ive spoken to the head of premium seating over the phone, to be honest i don't think she has a clue, in the conversation she just wouldn't acknowledge that its a problem, .. just hope i don't have to say " i told you so " to many times
Herbert
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Or give up all together.
horshambees
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I sometimes think that some at the club do not get the away supporters thing.What will it take for Brentford to realize it will kick off sooner or later, ive spoken to the head of premium seating over the phone, to be honest i don't think she has a clue, in the conversation she just wouldn't acknowledge that its a problem, .. just hope i don't have to say " i told you so " to many times
Why send us a sh*tty email and then flog £100 tickets to away fans outside of the away supporters allocation?
It will kick off one day, but a sale is a sale and when it does no doubt we will get another email saying "final warning".
Wolves today, Palace in 3 weeks, Newcastle in 5.
All they have to do is realise they can purchase over the phone and they are in.
They pay the money they misbehave they couldn't give a toss and will probably not bother coming back anyway.
And we get the crap.
I still say though that i would sit next to an away fan and not worry unless of course he acted like a dick.
Then it is the context that kicks in.
Or my foot.
jlove
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I don't think you can get hospitality for £100, it must be a Premium Seat with lounge access. We'll need to keep our eyes and ears open.
CrispBiscuit
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I won’t renew next season if I can’t move out of east stand.
On the membership subject, they need to change the sign up policy or some thing to combat some of this mess.
1. New Membership prices increase to £100 and you get guaranteed 1 x Cat A game & 1 x Cat B game but allocated at random. If you can’t not make them then the balance for each/both game gets credited to your account but can’t be refunded as cash. This will give a deterrent to the top teams fans signing up for memberships with the only intention being to buy a ticket to see their team.
2. Renewals of memberships or those with a defined number of TAPs are eligible for a membership without the above conditions.
3. When a membership is bought the billing address is referenced against the oppositions area. I.e. if some ones billing address is in Birmingham and it’s 3 weeks before the Wolves game, the membership should go for approval which requires a telephone call and a few questions to validate the authenticity of their application.
On the membership subject, they need to change the sign up policy or some thing to combat some of this mess.
1. New Membership prices increase to £100 and you get guaranteed 1 x Cat A game & 1 x Cat B game but allocated at random. If you can’t not make them then the balance for each/both game gets credited to your account but can’t be refunded as cash. This will give a deterrent to the top teams fans signing up for memberships with the only intention being to buy a ticket to see their team.
2. Renewals of memberships or those with a defined number of TAPs are eligible for a membership without the above conditions.
3. When a membership is bought the billing address is referenced against the oppositions area. I.e. if some ones billing address is in Birmingham and it’s 3 weeks before the Wolves game, the membership should go for approval which requires a telephone call and a few questions to validate the authenticity of their application.
hobbsy
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Sorry it looks like I haven't uploaded the 2022 Manefesto as approved at the last AGM.
I'll sort that over the weekend.
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Indian Bee
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What will it take for Brentford to realize it will kick off sooner or later, ive spoken to the head of premium seating over the phone, to be honest i don't think she has a clue, in the conversation she just wouldn't acknowledge that its a problem, .. just hope i don't have to say " i told you so " to many times
The one thing when I confronted these away fans on Wednesday was I was asked to calm down and relax by fans around me. I don’t think they got it that I kicked off because fans standing up smiling and recording their second goal. The onus shouldn’t have been on me but they just seemed to accept this in a supposed home end.