General Transfer Rumours (Summer 2021)

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Don't understand the obsession on here with 3CBs and Mourinho-ball tactics given that with a full accompaniment of players we'll probably start in a 4-3-3 anyway.....nothing in our recruitment this summer hints at anything else (imo).

The purchase of Ajer suggests exactly the opposite to me tbh! And 3-5-2 does not necessarily imply we have gone all Jose!
 

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Don't understand the obsession on here with 3CBs and Mourinho-ball tactics given that with a full accompaniment of players we'll probably start in a 4-3-3 anyway.....nothing in our recruitment this summer hints at anything else (imo).
We are into obsessions today! Back to point, currently we have six Centre Backs in the squad so perhaps that is why starting with three is being discussed. Should two of those move on then all will return to default.
 

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The purchase of Ajer suggests exactly the opposite to me tbh! And 3-5-2 does not necessarily imply we have gone all Jose!
Just to be contrary, I thought we started at ManU with a conservative 4-2-3-1 suiting the players actually on the pitch. This got switched up to something more recognisable and attacking in the 2nd half.
 

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While I agree that Ajer has been primarily brought in to cover the 'Norgaard Role', it would also be naive to dismiss him as a RB option in a back 4.

He has played there for Celtic, and by the sounds of it, was quite handy too.

I'm not sure I understand why people are clamouring for Jansson to be dropped either. It's not going to happen.
 

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We are into obsessions today! Back to point, currently we have six Centre Backs in the squad so perhaps that is why starting with three is being discussed. Should two of those move on then all will return to default.
Don't think so, its all about the strength of the squad. We will pick up injuries, possibly suspensions also, change in formation, so as far as I am concerned they are all required.
 

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Where might we need experience if experience is of value and we’re lacking it?

I can see an argument for an experienced sub keeper but it looks very likely the club is trusting in Gunnarsson and didn’t see fit to persuade Daniel to stay.

We have plenty of competitive experience in central defence even if not in the PL itself. If we play 3CBs I’m not volunteering to tell Kris, Pontus or Ethan they’re too inexperienced.

In midfield, are we saying Norgaard, Jensen or Onyeke need an old head to displace one of them? Good luck with that.

Do we need to wheel a modern Shipperley out (OK, unfair example, say Glenn Murray) to show Ivan the ropes?

If there is an area where experience might help it is wide. An argument for a FB or a winger. But who would be good at this and cheap enough to have more for experience than anything else? Personally I think in these areas the argument is also strongest for getting in one or more top players who will be taking a starting spot off someone. So a new Henrik in someone like Stryger Larsen, or a forward like Matheus Pereira. But unless the club pulls a rabbit out of the hat I don’t think we’re looking at that level. Cheeky bid for Dallas?!
Its obvious that we need Stewart Downing and Aaron Lennon.
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Don't think so, its all about the strength of the squad. We will pick up injuries, possibly suspensions also, change in formation, so as far as I am concerned they are all required.
I did not say that they were not required as that is not the issue, that being why is there an obsession for playing three at the back. I doubt that there would have been such a discussion if we only had four first team centre backs. It is only a discussion!
 

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I did not say that they were not required as that is not the issue, that being why is there an obsession for playing three at the back. I doubt that there would have been such a discussion if we only had four first team centre backs. It is only a discussion!
One of the many joys of the forthcoming season (in two weeks!) is that we’ve got no idea how the team will be set up. Arteta’s got no chance!
 

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I am no expert but does anyone think it would be a good idea to try and recruit a couple of players who have some Premier League experience?

Looking through the squad Ivan Toney has two sub appearances totally 10 minutes for Newcastle and Sergi 9 minutes in a single sub appearance for Liverpool. None of out coaching team have any experience at this level so the club currently has a grand total of 19 minutes Premier League experience.
I think we've conclusively proved that some of the clichés around football are nonsense over recent years. PL experience? Watford, Fulham, West Brom, Bournemouth, Sheffield Utd, Norwich have squads full of it. Fancy many (if any) of their players over ours? Probably not. And their experience in the PL was getting beaten every week. The truth is that properly good players with PL experience would command wages and transfer fees well in excess of their value to us. Leave the clichés to Sky and BT Sport. We'll plough our own furrow.
 

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Blimey it all happened here. Did no one notice how much more dangerous we were with 3 CB and wingbacks bombing on towards the back end of last season? Chuck Ajer in there running with the ball from the back three and three powerful CMs it will be anything but defensive.
 

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Blimey it all happened here. Did no one notice how much more dangerous we were with 3 CB and wingbacks bombing on towards the back end of last season? Chuck Ajer in there running with the ball from the back three and three powerful CMs it will be anything but defensive.
Ethan also towards the end of last season often strode forward with the ball or made runs out wide left while we were progressing the ball upfield with short passes. We might play 433 for fitness and teamwork during friendlies but I can see us being very much less predictable when the season starts.
 

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Just to be contrary, I thought we started at ManU with a conservative 4-2-3-1 suiting the players actually on the pitch. This got switched up to something more recognisable and attacking in the 2nd half.

Ayer was injured and Norgaard was unavailable. I would be worried it we started with Ayer as RB or CB in a back four tbh! 3-5-2 suits the players we currently have ie a relatively inexperienced RB whose strength is his energy and ability to get forward rather than his defending and a converted DM at CB who can bring the ball out from the back
 

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Ethan also towards the end of last season often strode forward with the ball or made runs out wide left while we were progressing the ball upfield with short passes. We might play 433 for fitness and teamwork during friendlies but I can see us being very much less predictable when the season starts.

Even Pontus turned up on the right wing against Bournemouth. Though perhaps we shouldn't dwell on that too much...
 

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Even Pontus turned up on the right wing against Bournemouth. Though perhaps we shouldn't dwell on that too much...
Yeah, I think he needs to stay back other than for corners.
 
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