Wigan 0-3 Brentford: Match Reports

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Does anyone have a view regards Roerslev, he has been included on the bench a couple of times now, is this to savour the atmosphere or is he good enough to get minutes now? Apologies is this has already been asked elsewhere
 

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Does anyone have a view regards Roerslev, he has been included on the bench a couple of times now, is this to savour the atmosphere or is he good enough to get minutes now? Apologies is this has already been asked elsewhere
...............no one else available for the bench.............it was either him or an awayday supporter....................
 

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Back home and finally warmed up, my word it was cold up north!

I think the most pleasing thing about yesterday was that was a game we would have dropped points in last season. We would have allowed Wigan an early equaliser and then crumbled or conceded a late winner, but this side is different. There is a steel to it, an organisation that we have not had before and with a personnel that won't be bullied or collapse under pressure.

We weren't anywhere near our fluent best and I actually thought the midfield were off the pace first half and allowed Wigan to get on the front foot too easily. Luckily they didn't have any real quality to hurt us and must be one of the favourites to go down on that evidence. Raya and Jansson are such a step up from what we have had previously, and a fit Rico Henry makes us such a stronger outfit. Although Wigan rarely threatened I wasn't relaxed and you wouldn't say we were comfortable, so getting the 2nd goal after some lovely football between Da Silva and Zamburek was a huge relief. Moments later their centre back clumsily took out Watkins for a 2nd yellow and that was game over, with Da Silva curling in a beauty into the top corner to cap off the win. Thompson collided with their midfielder who got knocked out unconscious and a melee followed which led to Jeanvier receiving a red, though it was hard to see what had gone on.

Whereas away from home last season there was always a panic of what a Bentley or a Barbet or Konsa might do and a collapse was never far away, we looked a totally different side this season. There is a calmness and assurance and Raya and Jansson and Norgaard has given us that steel and solidity in midfield to allow the likes of Josh Da Silva to shine.

The only downside now is the squad is looking paper thin with suspensions and injuries mounting up, despite the improved form I think we needed this international break to nurse a few walking wounded. Jeanvier and Norgaard both out for the Reading game and sounds like Valencia will be out for a little while too. How we cope with this in the lead up to the busy festive period will be key to our season I think.
 

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Back home and finally warmed up, my word it was cold up north!

I think the most pleasing thing about yesterday was that was a game we would have dropped points in last season. We would have allowed Wigan an early equaliser and then crumbled or conceded a late winner, but this side is different. There is a steel to it, an organisation that we have not had before and with a personnel that won't be bullied or collapse under pressure.

We weren't anywhere near our fluent best and I actually thought the midfield were off the pace first half and allowed Wigan to get on the front foot too easily. Luckily they didn't have any real quality to hurt us and must be one of the favourites to go down on that evidence. Raya and Jansson are such a step up from what we have had previously, and a fit Rico Henry makes us such a stronger outfit. Although Wigan rarely threatened I wasn't relaxed and you wouldn't say we were comfortable, so getting the 2nd goal after some lovely football between Da Silva and Zamburek was a huge relief. Moments later their centre back clumsily took out Watkins for a 2nd yellow and that was game over, with Da Silva curling in a beauty into the top corner to cap off the win. Thompson collided with their midfielder who got knocked out unconscious and a melee followed which led to Jeanvier receiving a red, though it was hard to see what had gone on.

Whereas away from home last season there was always a panic of what a Bentley or a Barbet or Konsa might do and a collapse was never far away, we looked a totally different side this season. There is a calmness and assurance and Raya and Jansson and Norgaard has given us that steel and solidity in midfield to allow the likes of Josh Da Silva to shine.

The only downside now is the squad is looking paper thin with suspensions and injuries mounting up, despite the improved form I think we needed this international break to nurse a few walking wounded. Jeanvier and Norgaard both out for the Reading game and sounds like Valencia will be out for a little while too. How we cope with this in the lead up to the busy festive period will be key to our season I think.
Fair comment on the pressure on the squad but we do have Yearwood very nearly ready to come in and Zamburek already well integrated the midfield still has cover. If we are around top six by Christmas I think Forss will be back with the new guy also.
It’s going to be tough if we get really hit but fingers crossed
 

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I can confirm that the shirts were match worn yesterday. Each player has two shirts available for each game (some change into a clean shirt at half time). Having shared that knowledge I can assure you that each shirt signed post match bore the sweat of the wearer.
cheers Peter - glad to hear there was provision in place! i was just worried that over-exuberance at the end had led some to forget that they were meant to keep the shirt lol
 

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Our next three games are against teams languishing in the bottom third of the table. With the usual caveats - no easy games, can take nothing for granted, avoid further injuries, etc etc - I woiuldn't bet against us being in the top six by the end of November.
 

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The only downside now is the squad is looking paper thin with suspensions and injuries mounting up, despite the improved form I think we needed this international break to nurse a few walking wounded. Jeanvier and Norgaard both out for the Reading game and sounds like Valencia will be out for a little while too. How we cope with this in the lead up to the busy festive period will be key to our season I think.
True, the injuries have come thick and fast in recent weeks. As the commentator on iFollow noted yesterday, in Benhrahma, Karelis and Canos we were missing an entire forward line (let's hope that Valencia has only suffered mild bruising). And the forthcoming suspensions won't help. But there are still grounds for optimism. The squad players have produced the goods, with Valencia and Mbeumo proving well up to the mark and DaSilva now threatening to keep Jensen permanently on the bench. What is making up for the loss of personnel through injury is, I think, the team spirit and the feeling that last summer's new arrivals are now bedded in, that it is the system, and the players' growing familiarity and ease with it, which is enabling individual players, whether the old hands (ie those who were with us last season) or the new arrivals, to play at or near their peak.
 

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Last season it took us 23 games and 22nd December to get past 24 points. We reached 25 points just before Christmas 2018.

Now we have 24 points after 16 games!

We’re above all the other London clubs in the Championship, bar one, and we’ll catch them before Christmas!

What’s not to like!!!
We have our away form and style of play sorted. Now to do same with home form.
 

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True, the injuries have come thick and fast in recent weeks. As the commentator on iFollow noted yesterday, in Benhrahma, Karelis and Canos we were missing an entire forward line (let's hope that Valencia has only suffered mild bruising). And the forthcoming suspensions won't help. But there are still grounds for optimism. The squad players have produced the goods, with Valencia and Mbeumo proving well up to the mark and DaSilva now threatening to keep Jensen permanently on the bench. What is making up for the loss of personnel through injury is, I think, the team spirit and the feeling that last summer's new arrivals are now bedded in, that it is the system, and the players' growing familiarity and ease with it, which is enabling individual players, whether the old hands (ie those who were with us last season) or the new arrivals, to play at or near their peak.
I've found my boots now if needed. Not a forward though, back 4 anywhere or goalie.
 

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From Wigan Today (five points about...)

4. Brentford are a top side. That won't come as a surprise to Paul Cook, who bigged up Thomas Frank's men during his pre-match press conference. But it won't have brought any satisfaction to the Latics boss to be proved right in such a sobering fashion. Yes, Latics were awful, but they also came up against one of the best teams in the Championship on top of their game.
 

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Last season it took us 23 games and 22nd December to get past 24 points. We reached 25 points just before Christmas 2018.

Now we have 24 points after 16 games!
In 2015/16 season 21 points after 16 matches - after 24 matches we had 36 points
In 2016/17 season 22 points after 16 matches - after 24 matches we had 30 points
In 2017/18 season 22 points after 16 matches - after 24 matches we had 34 points
In 2018/19 season 21 points after 16 matches - after 24 matches we had 26 points

Just to get some perspective.
 

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In 2015/16 season 21 points after 16 matches - after 24 matches we had 36 points
In 2016/17 season 22 points after 16 matches - after 24 matches we had 30 points
In 2017/18 season 22 points after 16 matches - after 24 matches we had 34 points
In 2018/19 season 21 points after 16 matches - after 24 matches we had 26 points

Just to get some perspective.
So we are doing well!
In fact you haven’t included 2014/15 season, our highest finish, and we had 25 points after 16 games.
Therefore, we are very close to that pace of results, but now with a far better defence than then.
 

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So we are doing well!
In fact you haven’t included 2014/15 season, our highest finish, and we had 25 points after 16 games.
Therefore, we are very close to that pace of results, but now with a far better defence than then.
Yes, we are doing fine. Comparing to last season, we are already ahead ... and if we equal our form in 2014/15 and 2015/16 seasons, we will have 39 points after 24 matches.

Last four seasons (I have been Bees fan during that time) we had either 21 or 22 points after 16 matches but after 24 matches there has been a big difference in points.
 

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Last season we collapsed following RRs untimely death. (I know we were in a slight downturn before). Injuries and suspension now, but the spirit seems better. I still see plenty of potential for improvement in the squad, too.
 
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In 2015/16 season 21 points after 16 matches - after 24 matches we had 36 points
In 2016/17 season 22 points after 16 matches - after 24 matches we had 30 points
In 2017/18 season 22 points after 16 matches - after 24 matches we had 34 points
In 2018/19 season 21 points after 16 matches - after 24 matches we had 26 points

Just to get some perspective.
It's a tough season for the misery merchants :(
 

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