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A Peter Gilham response. Rose coloured glasses. A scrappy draw.We have moved on and want to get into Premier League.A scrappy draw does not further that ambition
I think it needs to be seen in the context of moribee’s expectations for the season. In that thread I think he got criticised for saying midtable would be fine on the basis of having lost Said. He might actually be disappointingly right here.
 

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I think we lose a lot of forward passing with Jensen deeper and that, along with forwards moving into space, is at the root of the current issues. Bring in Janelt to play the 6, in Nørgaard's absence, and use Jensen to pass forward and Dasilva to carry the ball forward from positions much further forward.
Yes. For more years than I care to remember, whenever we play people out of position (like Jensen at the moment) it is never good. They are never their best and everything loses balance. We have a perfectly good replacement for Norgaard in Janelt. Jensen is far better further forward. Changing that would help. Enough to beat one of the poorest teams in the Championship?
 

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Surely yesterday’s team should have mirrored the Luton team with Janelt in the middle....Wycombe and Luton play a similar brand of football.

Luton and Wycombe away are the games you need someone who puts there foot in in the middle of the park.
 

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Disappointed with that result and even more by the way we played. I'm not sure changing certain individuals around is going to have much impact. It seems to me that the whole team seem to have lost touch with the basics such as passing to each other. It so frustrating seeing players give the ball back to the opposition so easily. I don't think WW defended that well and it was more to do with how poorly we played.

Hopefully we can work on the basics and the rest will follow.
 

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Surely yesterday’s team should have mirrored the Luton team with Janelt in the middle....Wycombe and Luton play a similar brand of football.

Luton and Wycombe away are the games you need someone who puts there foot in in the middle of the park.
They're completely different! Why is it that every time we play badly it's about needing someone to 'put their foot in'? We had plenty of the ball we just didn't do anything with it.. We had over 60% possession, and won the majority of our duels both on the deck and in the air.

Where we were lacking was someone other than JDS to run with the ball and commit defenders and any kind of movement up front. We didn't get players up in support of the front three and we didn't get bodies (or the ball) into the box often enough..
 

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They're completely different! Why is it that every time we play badly it's about needing someone to 'put their foot in'? We had plenty of the ball we just didn't do anything with it.. We had over 60% possession, and won the majority of our duels both on the deck and in the air.

Where we were lacking was someone other than JDS to run with the ball and commit defenders and any kind of movement up front. We didn't get players up in support of the front three and we didn't get bodies (or the ball) into the box often enough..
Yeah... but... we wouldn't have lost yesterday playing Pulls-ball.
 

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I think we're suffering from the playoff final defeat in a similar way Tottenham suffered from their Champions League final defeat. Losing Watkins and Benrahma was always going to hurt us and we're simply less fluid than what we know we can play because our attack is weaker.
Mbeumo is almost always going to cut in onto his left foot and compared to last season, he doesn't look like he has the belief to go past players. He's not the type of player to grab the game by the scruff of its neck either. On the other wing, we look hopeless compared to last season for obvious reasons. Benrahma was simply one of those rare talents to grace our club and Canos is half the player he used to be. Pass the ball to Canos or Mbeumo and we currently don't have confidence that they'll retain possession or try to get in behind the opposition defence. So our attack is, basically, Toney, who is getting less supply than Watkins did.
We need a winger who will make the opposition scared. The kind that defenders will either have to back off so we can retain possession, or they have to double up on which will make space in other areas of the pitch.
Trying to be positive, we are defensively pretty solid, especially with Pontus back. Norgaard's return will make a big difference to the solidity of the team too. But if we are to seriously challenge, we need a winger with pace who isn't going to give the ball away far too easily. Those types of players don't come easily either.
And certainly, we need a large squad this season, so retaining players in the January transfer window will be essential.
 

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FWIIW - today I tried to watch three Premiershi*e games. Two were the same as our match yesterday - chess like, sideways and backward passing, few personal attempts at dribbling or beating a man. In fact, little skill - boring.

Fulham/Everton - I turned to working on my laptop after 15 minutes; Sheffield Utd/West Ham - at Ieast l lasted for 20mins then phoned the widow of a friend who's in a home with Alzheimer's and found it more fun; Liverpool/Leicester - least I lasted all the way through because although it was exactly the same at least the players showed some individual skills.

I don't think we're as bad as most people currently think. We have players not performing, true -but the big fault in my opinion is the state of football in general this season.

Players have been over-played, there's been no time for practise, and the game has become stale and sterile.
 

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FWIIW - today I tried to watch three Premiershi*e games. Two were the same as our match yesterday - chess like, sideways and backward passing, few personal attempts at dribbling or beating a man. In fact, little skill - boring.

Fulham/Everton - I turned to working on my laptop after 15 minutes; Sheffield Utd/West Ham - at Ieast l lasted for 20mins then phoned the widow of a friend who's in a home with Alzheimer's and found it more fun; Liverpool/Leicester - least I lasted all the way through because although it was exactly the same at least the players showed some individual skills.

I don't think we're as bad as most people currently think. We have players not performing, true -but the big fault in my opinion is the state of football in general this season.

Players have been over-played, there's been no time for practise, and the game has become stale and sterile.
I thought there was some very good football played in that game
 

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FWIIW - today I tried to watch three Premiershi*e games. Two were the same as our match yesterday - chess like, sideways and backward passing, few personal attempts at dribbling or beating a man. In fact, little skill - boring.

Fulham/Everton - I turned to working on my laptop after 15 minutes; Sheffield Utd/West Ham - at Ieast l lasted for 20mins then phoned the widow of a friend who's in a home with Alzheimer's and found it more fun; Liverpool/Leicester - least I lasted all the way through because although it was exactly the same at least the players showed some individual skills.

I don't think we're as bad as most people currently think. We have players not performing, true -but the big fault in my opinion is the state of football in general this season.

Players have been over-played, there's been no time for practise, and the game has become stale and sterile.

The Fulham game was good . SU v WHU was dull , I was waiting for Benrahma to come on but he didnt, I didnt watch Liverpool
 
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Im trying to recall the last time we had two 0-0 draws in a row, certainly not in the past couple of years surely ??
 

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Im trying to recall the last time we had two 0-0 draws in a row, certainly not in the past couple of years surely ??
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FWIIW - today I tried to watch three Premiershi*e games. Two were the same as our match yesterday - chess like, sideways and backward passing, few personal attempts at dribbling or beating a man. In fact, little skill - boring.

Fulham/Everton - I turned to working on my laptop after 15 minutes; Sheffield Utd/West Ham - at Ieast l lasted for 20mins then phoned the widow of a friend who's in a home with Alzheimer's and found it more fun; Liverpool/Leicester - least I lasted all the way through because although it was exactly the same at least the players showed some individual skills.

I don't think we're as bad as most people currently think. We have players not performing, true -but the big fault in my opinion is the state of football in general this season.

Players have been over-played, there's been no time for practise, and the game has become stale and sterile.
Throw in VAR and it sounds like the perfect day.
 

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Im trying to recall the last time we had two 0-0 draws in a row, certainly not in the past couple of years surely ??
We’ve played Wycombe 27 times in league matches. 8 of these have been 0-0 draws, and a further 7 have been 1-0s! It’s feast or famine against them...
 

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