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Are we getting thin on the ground?

Yohan out
Shandon out
MBS
Vitaly - how long?
MPH post today?
London Senior Cup this week. Effectively no subs.

The team selection for Stoke will be very interesting.

Disclaimer: I am glass half empty!
 
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Jim Rourke said:
Are we getting thin on the ground?

Yohan out
Shandon out
MBS
Vitaly - how long?
MPH post today?
London Senior Cup this week. Effectively no subs.

The team selection for Stoke will be very interesting.

Disclaimer: I am glass half empty!
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Add JDS to that list, and potentially Ethan and Bryan after today...
 
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He has been as massive loss (so much so there is now some bed wetting on the Halil thread). We have missed his composure in the final third.
 
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Bangor Bee said:
Games are intense, but it doesn't explain the injuries, which basically are just bad luck: if I remember correctly, MBS was injured vs Forest Green, Janelt in a warmup, Wissa in training and Baptiste's could have happened in any game.
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Physios role in injury prevention?
 
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could we go back to a front three , Him , Toney ,Bryan ? That would cause defences chaos
 
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could we go back to a front three , Him , Toney ,Bryan ? That would cause defences chaos
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Not until he’s fit enough to play, obviously.
 
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I've had that thought as well. Once he's back it would be a system that would suit the players who we currently have available.
 
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Will be great to have him back playing a front 3 will suit and players and get Toney back in the box instead of him flicking ball on 40 yds from goal with this direct football we have been playing lately
 
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Now Mbeumo seems to have got the goal dimensions back in, a forward 3 of WTM is very potent. However it weakens us defensively, especially in the right back area as everyone agrees Canos, Roerslev and also to a degree Stevens are better going forward than back
 
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Leonardo said:
Now Mbeumo seems to have got the goal dimensions back in, a forward 3 of WTM is very potent. However it weakens us defensively, especially in the right back area as everyone agrees Canos, Roerslev and also to a degree Stevens are better going forward than back
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I think it depends on who we have as available as our CBs. Early season with Pinnock, Janssen, Ajer the back 3 were a strong unit in both attack and defence. Ajer’s versatility in particular worked well with Canos. Had we had all 3 playing consistently and uninjured we could have moved from a combative midfield trio of Norgaard, Janelt and Onyeka to a two of Norgaard plus one and the other coming on as sub, while still having Rico and Sergi as WBs which would give us in attack orthodox wingers on their better feet (see Guardiola’s recent comments) and two fast inside forwards with Toney. Toney’s pressing and defensive contribution we know and we can remember that Mbeumo improved his by playing as WB towards the end of last season. Working on that side of his game was Wissa’s development goal.

But while we need to shepherd Goode into the massive step up from L2 that aggressive and confident switch from 352 to 343 is very tough. Particularly while Alvaro beds in. It’s why I think maybe 433 and playing the proven CBs we have and blooding Roerslev while moving Canos to his preferred left wing may be better. Then the question is whether we go for CN VJ FTT as a control midfield enabling Toney to play further up with two inverted wingers coming closer to him or have Ghoddos/Baptiste instead of FTT in a more fluid role while Toney hangs back as more of the false 9 he’s played recently.
 
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I think it depends on who we have as available as our CBs. Early season with Pinnock, Janssen, Ajer the back 3 were a strong unit in both attack and defence. Ajer’s versatility in particular worked well with Canos. Had we had all 3 playing consistently and uninjured we could have moved from a combative midfield trio of Norgaard, Janelt and Onyeka to a two of Norgaard plus one and the other coming on as sub, while still having Rico and Sergi as WBs which would give us in attack orthodox wingers on their better feet (see Guardiola’s recent comments) and two fast inside forwards with Toney. Toney’s pressing and defensive contribution we know and we can remember that Mbeumo improved his by playing as WB towards the end of last season. Working on that side of his game was Wissa’s development goal.

But while we need to shepherd Goode into the massive step up from L2 that aggressive and confident switch from 352 to 343 is very tough. Particularly while Alvaro beds in. It’s why I think maybe 433 and playing the proven CBs we have and blooding Roerslev while moving Canos to his preferred left wing may be better. Then the question is whether we go for CN VJ FTT as a control midfield enabling Toney to play further up with two inverted wingers coming closer to him or have Ghoddos/Baptiste instead of FTT in a more fluid role while Toney hangs back as more of the false 9 he’s played recently.
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Agree with this analysis and general recommendation- it’s what I was advocating for too. However you could play Toney as a traditional 9 and then have 2 combative midfielders, two inverted wingers, and Ghoddos as a 10, but this might be too aggressive unless we’re chasing the game. As it is I think we play 4-3-3 and Ghoddos misses out, which is a shame considering his recent performances
 
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swr22 said:
Agree with this analysis and general recommendation- it’s what I was advocating for too. However you could play Toney as a traditional 9 and then have 2 combative midfielders, two inverted wingers, and Ghoddos as a 10, but this might be too aggressive unless we’re chasing the game. As it is I think we play 4-3-3 and Ghoddos misses out, which is a shame considering his recent performances
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Though these are not exclusive permutations- it would be a matter of a single sub to go from 433 with 3 tough defensive mids to 343 and Ghoddos. Indeed precisely the sort of aggressive sub TF likes to do. With the next move being, if we’ve taken the initiative, taking off Janelt for Forss and going 424, looking quite 244 in attack)- as the end of the Liverpool and Chelsea games pretty much were. Indeed we did something like that against Norwich but there’s a world of difference between Goode up top and Wissa!
 
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Still wearing a protective boot. Might be a while until we see him in action again…
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Is that based on the wedding photos he just posted on Instagram? If so they were taken a good few weeks ago.

He may well still be in the boot though, no idea. Certainly doesn’t appear to be training at all yet.
 
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maddogging said:
We are f***ed without him. Literally nothing off the bench to trouble the opposition
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2 late goals and some decent performances.
We miss him but if he was that good, he'd have been starting.

We miss prime Da Silva and Janelt more.
 
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SmiffyBee said:
2 late goals and some decent performances.
We miss him but if he was that good, he'd have been starting.

We miss prime Da Silva and Janelt more.
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He was good enough to score late goals gaining us 3 points against two teams currently in the top 4! It’s very early in his time with us, in this country and this league. He’s got a huge amount further to go but was already much more of a threat than Forss and has more open play PL goals than Ivan.

We haven’t had JDS play in the PL and won promotion without him so we don’t miss him we just look forward to him returning and adding to the team. Janelt is great but we have midfield options.
 
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Interesting, can't find that pic. Just one without feet in!
 
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As Brighton bee posted, the wedding was a couple of weeks back. He’s just sharing more photos today.
 
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He was dancing in his wedding photo. No boot. I'll try and find my video of his Instagram story. I think he's still using a stick though.
 
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What like Fred Astaire in a song and dance routine?
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Not exactly, In fact, the dance part is a still photo in the montage but the point is, he wasn't wearing the boot. I think the two occasions were on different days. I mean, who's gonna wear that bird getup for their wedding? :LOL:
 
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