Why Can't We Score Goals?

Why Can't We Score Goals?

no ammo for the strikers-wide men covering inside as 2 CMids are outfought by 3/4 opponents.
crap tactics
 

Why Can't We Score Goals?

No flair, no creativity, no incisive passing, poor finishing, no confidence, no shape.

Add to that two holding midfielders, predictable wingers, injured strikers and a manager who sets his team up in a rigid, defensive manner.

4 goals in 9 league games what a f*****g joke.
 

Why Can't We Score Goals?

Les Beeavinu said:
3 of our 4 strikers are past their best. The other is a workmanlike lower division forward.
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Correct and the midfield are also workmanlike League 2 standard.

Wakey wakey Mr Scott.
 

Why Can't We Score Goals?

Poor service to average forwards = no goals.

The only way we want to score is get it wide, cross it in and hope that someone gets on the end of it - that's how our goals against Walsall, Rochdale, Stevenage, Wednesday and Everton have all come about. That's plan A, B, C, D, E, F.......

Trouble is, when our wide men don't perform, or a team is decent at preventing or defending crosses we're fecked.
 

Why Can't We Score Goals?

braunton bee said:
whats the reasons why we cant score
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Because Andy Scott signs forwards who are either 102 years old, or are 1 goal in 4 plodders who "in fairness add a lot in different ways". And will probably cost him his job, and deservedly so.
 

Why Can't We Score Goals?

...it really isn't good enough...
 

Why Can't We Score Goals?

Sweepy said:
Because Andy Scott signs forwards who are either 102 years old, or are 1 goal in 4 plodders who "in fairness add a lot in different ways". And will probably cost him his job, and deservedly so.
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didn't the penny drop for Scott when Brighton wouldn't offer 36 year old Forster a 2 year deal ?
Sorry he's made too many costly mistakes, I just hope whoever has the authority to do it sacks him before Saturday, but knowing the way our board fanny about they will leave it until we're adrift at the bottom with 10 games to go........Surely MB can't sit back and watch Scott takes us down, surely not ?
 

Why Can't We Score Goals?

Strangely we do have strikers capable of scoring goals, unfortunately the Scott system releies exclusivley on wingers playing well and getting in a number of crosses, of different degrees of accuracy, and hoping that someone somehow will be able to knock the ball in the net.
We are unfortunately devoid of any "playmaker" who can run the game and untill such time as one of these are found enabling the midfield to be creative we will not score, ipsofacto if we cant score and the opposition nick one we are doomed.
 

Why Can't We Score Goals?

Les Beeavinu said:
3 of our 4 strikers are past their best. The other is a workmanlike lower division forward.
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Harsh on Charlie. Not having his best run for us but we've had worse in this division and done ok
 

Why Can't We Score Goals?

condorman said:
Harsh on Charlie. Not having his best run for us but we've had worse in this division and done ok
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I couldn't see him playing at a higher level I'm afraid. He has struggled at times in this division.
 

Why Can't We Score Goals?

The Pipe said:
Strangely we do have strikers capable of scoring goals, unfortunately the Scott system releies exclusivley on wingers playing well and getting in a number of crosses, of different degrees of accuracy, and hoping that someone somehow will be able to knock the ball in the net.
We are unfortunately devoid of any "playmaker" who can run the game and untill such time as one of these are found enabling the midfield to be creative we will not score, ipsofacto if we cant score and the opposition nick one we are doomed.
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That's all correct but Scott wouldn't have clue how to use a playmaking midfielder, he would prefer to keep O'Connor in there running around in circles and passing the ball backwards.
 

Why Can't We Score Goals?

The problem with a team that cannot score as well is eventually it goes tits up at the other end of the pitch as well.

There was one particular bad season we were having - I cannot remember which one now, there has been a few in recent season. Our main problem was finding the net, but our defensive record was more than adequate. At some point, the defence either gave up pissing in the wind or they finally collapsed under the pressure, but suddenly we were leaking goals. And therein lies my next fear, that sooner or later we're going to get thumped. :(
 

Why Can't We Score Goals?

Les Beeavinu said:
I couldn't see him playing at a higher level I'm afraid. He has struggled at times in this division.
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Totally agree, Les. What I love about Charlie is that the goals he does score are usually important, at crucial times and decisive.

But he is not 20 goals a season. He has a run of games where he seems to score every other game, but then comes a quiet spell. We need someone more deadly.
 

Why Can't We Score Goals?

I spoke to my Step Father who is a Bournemouth supporter in the Summer, and told him how much this league had improved, and that they may struggle, whilst we should again hold our own and will be aiming for a play off spot.
Shows what I know.

:cool:
 

Why Can't We Score Goals?

Les Beeavinu said:
3 of our 4 strikers are past their best. The other is a workmanlike lower division forward.
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Les Beeavinu said:
I couldn't see him playing at a higher level I'm afraid. He has struggled at times in this division.
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Sorry, 'workmanlike' was the bit I thought harsh. He does work hard but he also has some sparkle.
 

Why Can't We Score Goals?

MacDonald and Alexander are both slow and rely on service, Cort is unfit and Forster is 36!!! We have 2 centre midfielders who don't pass ball forward. The only person who offers anything going forward is Weston.
 

Why Can't We Score Goals?

Sweepy said:
Totally agree, Les. What I love about Charlie is that the goals he does score are usually important, at crucial times and decisive.

But he is not 20 goals a season. He has a run of games where he seems to score every other game, but then comes a quiet spell. We need someone more deadly.
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If you allow for the games he missed through injury he would probably have got 20 the last two seasons.

But yes I agree with you both that league one is probably his ceiling
 

Why Can't We Score Goals?

One thing that might help is the return of Robbie Simpson; I wonder how far he is from being fit again.
 

Why Can't We Score Goals?

We don't have any players willing to shoot from outside the box (Adams apart) do we. In the warm up they all practice shooting, get to the game and bugger all happens
 

Why Can't We Score Goals?

condorman said:
Sorry, 'workmanlike' was the bit I thought harsh. He does work hard but he also has some sparkle.
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We'll have to disagree then. He is a pest but is also comfortable for a good defender to contain.
 

Why Can't We Score Goals?

WarrenBee said:
With the money we've spent, we shouldn't be relying on a loan player to sort our problems out.

:cool:
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But we have signed him for the whole season; it is not a very short term deal and not really different from resigning Carl Cort for one season.
 

Why Can't We Score Goals?

Beesfan said:
MacDonald and Alexander are both slow and rely on service, Cort is unfit and Forster is 36!!! We have 2 centre midfielders who don't pass ball forward. The only person who offers anything going forward is Weston.
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If you're a striker and you haven't got pace you have to be very clever, e'g Alan Lee type of player, unfortunatley none of our 4 have any pace and only Cort is really talented but well past his best and always injured.
 

Why Can't We Score Goals?

Les Beeavinu said:
We'll have to disagree then. He is a pest but is also comfortable for a good defender to contain.
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Yep agree to disagree - he's provided me with more moments of joy than any other bee over the last few seasons

Now John Mousinho, HE was workmanlike.
 

Why Can't We Score Goals?

Don't agree about Charlie. I think he's a good striker. I think he'd be even better if the service to him wasn't quite so half-arsed or dependent on his persistence.
 

Why Can't We Score Goals?

Another discussion point (and it's not a dig at woodman who I think is decent enough) but I think it might be becoming apparent how much attacking impetus Ryan Dickson provided last year
 

Why Can't We Score Goals?

Notwithstanding any of the comments above about the quality of service etc. etc. which are all valid, the primary reason for our complete toothlessness up front is currently the fact that the vast majority of our forward line is now injured or nowhere near fit. Realistically, Alexander is the only fully fit forward and I'm not actually sure how fully fit he is anyway.

As I posted elsewhere, don't be fooled by the fact Forster played the full 90 minutes today. He struggled terribly and I'm positive he wouldn't have played if others had been available, just as I'm sure Cort would've started to give Alexander a rest if he'd be capable of it.

We desparately need to bring in a loan forward, otherwise Scotty has no chance of addressing one of the most, if not the most underachieving element of the team and with results as they are currently, his job may well depend directly on the success of that loan signing.
 

Why Can't We Score Goals?

We have taken a gamble on experienced journeymen and it hasn't come off. Now we can't keep any of them fit either.

We also lack any pace up front.

Not good timing given the midfield problems. it just looks like we have run out of luck as well at the worst possible time.
 

Why Can't We Score Goals?

........................maybe an experiment with one of Karleigh or Leon playing up front, with the other one staying as centrehalf.................
 

Why Can't We Score Goals?

according to my old man who goes regularly;

1) central midfield pairing who are too defensive minded (ie lacking a 'creative midfielder'-someone like a Rowlands or Tabb in there would be beneficial) therefore no decent through balls from midfield. We need a tenacious playmaker type in there, might pick up a few more bookings but the goals would come.

2)we use the wide players well but they frequently get closed down too quickly and attacks break down (relates to lack of flexibility in system and opposing teams working out our game plan too easily)

not too much wrong with striker options
 

Why Can't We Score Goals?

WisBee said:
........................maybe an experiment with one of Karleigh or Leon playing up front, with the other one staying as centrehalf.................
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Last ten minutes maybe but not as an actual tactic
 

Why Can't We Score Goals?

WarrenBee said:
With the money we've spent, we shouldn't be relying on a loan player to sort our problems out.

:cool:
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Your right , but loan players have kept AS in his job, Jordan rhodes, billy clark, chesney. Without their contribution we would have been f*cked.:(
 

Why Can't We Score Goals?

doctor_bee(MBBS) said:
according to my old man who goes regularly;

1) central midfield pairing who are too defensive minded (ie lacking a 'creative midfielder'-someone like a Rowlands or Tabb in there would be beneficial) therefore no decent through balls from midfield. We need a tenacious playmaker type in there, might pick up a few more bookings but the goals would come.

2)we use the wide players well but they frequently get closed down too quickly and attacks break down (relates to lack of flexibility in system and opposing teams working out our game plan too easily)

not too much wrong with striker options
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The two are linked, 1 means that teams can afford to double up on 2 as there is no imminent risk from the central pair
 

Why Can't We Score Goals?

EASTBRISTOLBEE7 said:
Your right , but loan players have kept AS in his job, Jordan rhodes, billy clark, chesney. Without their contribution we would have been f*cked.:(
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You can add....James Wilson, Lewis Grabban, John Bostock to that list, all 3 of them made a big contribution to our team.
 

Why Can't We Score Goals?

crap movement in the box.. simples
 

Why Can't We Score Goals?

Les Beeavinu said:
3 of our 4 strikers are past their best. The other is a workmanlike lower division forward.
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i do agree and also a bit out of form and confidence too.

i was surprised he went for cort and forster as the former is like an old man. one or the other but not both.


it doesn't help that our four central midfielders are all much of a muchness - ok dave is probably the best but is still from the same mould as the other three.

but we must remember even top teams go on a run when the goals dry-up.

we will start to score again. honest gov!
 

Why Can't We Score Goals?

Time to go 4-3-1-2 I think. I would go with the following team :-

Hamer

Spillane Osbourne Balkestein Woodman

O'Connor Dave Wood

Cort

McDonald Weston
 

Why Can't We Score Goals?

It's the tactics, not the personnel. We have 5 strikers who, although not Lambert quality, will score goals if they are given the service. Criticising Forster is harsh, he may be 36 but hasn't really been given a chance yet and proved last season that he will still get goals.

The tactics are so one dimensional it is painful and that has to change, until it does we will struggle.

Of all Scott's post match crap the most worrying is how he talks about giving away two cheap goals otherwise we would have had two clean sheets..... we have scored 4 goals on 9 games, WAKE UP ANDY!!!!!
 

Why Can't We Score Goals?

WisBee said:
........................maybe an experiment with one of Karleigh or Leon playing up front, with the other one staying as centrehalf.................
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Could not agree more in the case of Legge at least he would attack the ball and harass opponents defense.
 
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