January 2014 Transfer Window

[BFC1997]

With a new manager and a sporting director who may well want to dip into his old club for some youthful talent, I expect some new faces and maybe some departures...

Where do we need to strengthen?

Will Uwe raid our squad?

Personally I can see Fillo going back, hasn't featured for a while, found it hard and was brought in by Uwe who'd previously managed, and now that he's gone....

Rumours Jordan Ibe is joining, and as he's a pacy winger, it'd back up the hypothesis that Fillo is leaving...

 

[Bridge Bee]

Barron to leave? May as well.

Lots of loans to be extended or not - Saville, Trotta, Harris. Not sure when Nugents loan expires?

 

[cheshire bee]

Maybe your not far wrong, watch for announcements tomorrow.

 

[sonofabee]

Think we will look for another option up top.

 

[hatfieldbee]

Barron to leave? May as well.

Lots of loans to be extended or not - Saville, Trotta, Harris. Not sure when Nugents loan expires?

January, I think. Would let him go but keep the others. MW said in the prog yesterday that funds would be held back for strengthening later in the season. Can't see any current loanees being signed permanently this window.

 

[Downbeat Bee]

Fillo and Barron to go

Trotta or another striker (or two)

 

[Brentford_till_die]

A centre back in, I'm guessing Nugent loan won't be extended.

 

[Wooburn Bee]

With a new manager and a sporting director who may well want to dip into his old club for some youthful talent, I expect some new faces and maybe some departures...

Where do we need to strengthen?

Will Uwe raid our squad?

Personally I can see Fillo going back, hasn't featured for a while, found it hard and was brought in by Uwe who'd previously managed, and now that he's gone....

Rumours Jordan Ibe is joining, and as he's a pacy winger, it'd back up the hypothesis that Fillo is leaving...

Jordan Ibe would be a terrific loan move and could help kick us on in second half of season. I would like all loanees to be extended for rest of season. We will need centre back cover and am assuming that will be Nugent and O Connor. We have enough options as central striker if continue to play just one up top.

Concern is If Uwe comes in for Forshaw Dean Bidwell or offers money to Chelsea to buy Savile.

 

[Beat Poet]

Get or keep enough players in order for the Bees currently out on loan to stay out on loan, continuing their development. Maybe bring Dallas back, if he will fit the system under Warbs.

 

[thenightfly]

Ibe on the way i hear.

 

[Wooburn Bee]

Ibe on the way i hear.

From whom ?

 

[DavidgRushden]

Hopefully Luke Norris is finishing his loan at Northampton Town soon. Can't understand why Boothroyd doesn't let him have a game now, but just
puts him on the bench and doesn't let him have any playing time, especially after he became their leading scorer after having played a handful
of games. Think he would be far better off returning to the Bees.

 

[absenteebee]

Hopefully Luke Norris is finishing his loan at Northampton Town soon. Can't understand why Boothroyd doesn't let him have a game now, but just
puts him on the bench and doesn't let him have any playing time, especially after he became their leading scorer after having played a handful
of games. Think he would be far better off returning to the Bees.

yep, strange one that. Norris could well have kept him in the job. Weird.

 

[She Wore She Wore]

considering we are two weeks away,i would imagine there is considerably movement before and especially after xmas

 

[malbee62]

Got to keep Saville, not sure when his loan expires, especially if Uve comes in for Forshaw, I hope he doesn't by the way.

 

[mhead bee]

JANUARY MOVEMENT .

I thought we were going to discuss the Christmas Log.

 

[mhead bee]

With a new manager and a sporting director who may well want to dip into his old club for some youthful talent, I expect some new faces and maybe some departures...

Where do we need to strengthen?

Will Uwe raid our squad?

Personally I can see Fillo going back, hasn't featured for a while, found it hard and was brought in by Uwe who'd previously managed, and now that he's gone....

Rumours Jordan Ibe is joining, and as he's a pacy winger, it'd back up the hypothesis that Fillo is leaving...

Tend to agree. Fillo can't even get 10 minutes against a non league club when we are 4.0 up in the FA cup, and he was Uwe's man it seems.

A winger for sure, this chap from Liverpool would be good.

Crucial we hang onto Saville and Forshaw as these two are the complete engine room and together are unplayable at times. They are almost telepathic but having said that I think AF makes it look like that as his passing is brilliantly disguised at times.

I would love to see a pacy striker come in but to be fair that is not the way we play as a hold up player is not usually very fast. In fact the best hold up player with pace that I know is CD and he plays wide so I don't expect to see a forward come in.

The interesting thing is to see whether MT gets an extension as Warbs dropped him in his first game and maybe sees something different to uwe.

 

[Kingston Bee]

Offload Filo and Barron, and I suspect Trotta wont be far away given that he was Rosler's man. Suspect we will be looking for another forward if that happens.

 

[Brain-dead Bee]

Assuming that we don't lose players that we want to keep (to Wigan or elsewhere), I'd expect us to try to extend the loans of all players with us (even Nugent, as I'm sure we are content with Craig and Dean at CB, so can't be too ambitious about cover). Not sure we will look for more yet, if we get to keep everyone. Barron would probably be released if anyone came in for him.

We will need to keep it under review, but can get loans through till early March.

I don't expect any permanent signings unless we lose a key player or two

 

[mhead bee]

From whom ?

From Liverpool.

 

[Bigbee]

From whom ?

Liverpool

 

[PJ]

January is crucial for us, especially the forwards.
CD - if he doesn't extend contract - will be able to talk to other clubs AFAIK? Probably length of contract is the key to CD staying , I'd imagine. 2 years would be reasonable?

Farid also out of contract at end of season? Don't think we've offered anything yet?

Reckon we'll aim to extend Rodney for the season. If not we'll need to replace.

We need a pool of 4 senior forwards, so interesting times ahead

 

[Cham]

Hear Uwe may go for Bamford currently on loan from MK Dons, instead of Savile. Makes sense. Bamford is more prolific than George atm.

 

[SQUELCH]

More pace up top please

 

[The Joker]

The interesting thing is to see whether MT gets an extension as Warbs dropped him in his first game and maybe sees something different to uwe.

Uwe dropped him to the bench at Notts County. He also started at Carlisle in the FA Cup. :shrug:

 

[Nada Bee]

I'm guessing here. but all the players who signed the 3 year deals ala Simon Moore will also have minimum fee clauses? May be out of our hands. If Adam and Harlee go they will be very tough to replace.

 

[hobbsy]

I'm guessing here. but all the players who signed the 3 year deals ala Simon Moore will also have minimum fee clauses? May be out of our hands. If Adam and Harlee go they will be very tough to replace.

Likely they do, but I would be surprised if they jump ship in January. It's not usually the time when clubs sign young players.

 

[TuckerBee]

If Uwe has any respect for BFC & the people at the club who gave him his managerial break he will not raid our squad until the end of the season.

We shall see in a couple of weeks.

If part of his heart is with the club as he said.

He won't disrupt our season further I hope.

 

[Cham]

AK and PF left the management staff... not January movement but

 

[TuckerBee]

AK and PF left the management staff... not January movement but

Seems like we let them go rather then them leaving.

Think MW wants his own people.

 

[Cham]

David Weir apparently going to be Assistant Manager..

 

[Bill Benn]

January is crucial for us, especially the forwards.
CD - if he doesn't extend contract - will be able to talk to other clubs AFAIK? Probably length of contract is the key to CD staying , I'd imagine. 2 years would be reasonable?

Farid also out of contract at end of season? Don't think we've offered anything yet?

Reckon we'll aim to extend Rodney for the season. If not we'll need to replace.

We need a pool of 4 senior forwards, so interesting times ahead

Donaldson is the difficult one,what happens if he wants a say 3 year deal on 6k a week plus signing on fee?if he won't sign a deal and a club meets his release clause then he's gone.We might have to wait till later in the month and if there are no takers then he will more likely sign a more acceptable 2 year contract.
Fillo is a season loanee so not sure if you can loan out a loanee,maybe sending him back if possible would be best option.
Nugent I expect to go back to Cardiff as I presume KO on the bench Saturday means he's injured or not wanted.
Trotta I think will go back.

As you say we need 4 senior forwards so lve got my fingers crossed Macparland has this covered with some quality youngsters and hopefully an experienced striker.

 

[mhead bee]

January is crucial for us, especially the forwards.
CD - if he doesn't extend contract - will be able to talk to other clubs AFAIK? Probably length of contract is the key to CD staying , I'd imagine. 2 years would be reasonable?

Farid also out of contract at end of season? Don't think we've offered anything yet?

Reckon we'll aim to extend Rodney for the season. If not we'll need to replace.

We need a pool of 4 senior forwards, so interesting times ahead

And we don't know Warbs is thinking, saturday he just pressed the continue button but is that because he shares the same philosophy as Uwe ad they worked closely or will we see some tweaking in the next 4 weeks. Interesting times.

 

[mhead bee]

Donaldson is the difficult one,what happens if he wants a say 3 year deal on 6k a week plus signing on fee?if he won't sign a deal and a club meets his release clause then he's gone.

Fillo is a season loanee so not sure if you can loan out a loanee,maybe sending him back if possible would be best option.

Trotta I think will go back.
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CD is in contract until the summer, if he doesn't agree terms on a new contract then we still have him until the end of the season.

Fillo is not our to loan out, I am sure he can go back if we all agree.

If Uwe was here Trotta would stay, we don't know what Warbs is all about yet, maybe he brought trotta in and if he did he may stay, or even sign a permanent.

 

[josht]

Hear Uwe may go for Bamford currently on loan from MK Dons, instead of Savile. Makes sense. Bamford is more prolific than George atm.

Bamford is a poacher whereas Saville is a box-to-box midfielde, so I wouldn't have thought they are immediately comparable. Barron obviously isn't doing a whole lot at the moment, but we may find his current salary is too high for bidding clubs/Barron wanting to give up the cash.

 

[PJ]

Donaldson is the difficult one,what happens if he wants a say 3 year deal on 6k a week plus signing on fee?.

I'd say that would be totally unrealistic, Bill.
Would hope we have a Plan B in case he's off, because we are very reliant on him and the role he plays

 

[bees66]

Hear Uwe may go for Bamford currently on loan from MK Dons, instead of Savile. Makes sense. Bamford is more prolific than George atm.

your comparing a striker to a midfielder?:shrug:

 

[Adam]

If Uwe has any future as a manager he will soon realise that no one in our squad would make an inch of difference to what he has available at the moment. Maybe Forshaw, but I doubt he will force McCarthur, Powell, Gomez or McCann out of the team any time in the next 6-12 months.

 

[Captain Colon]

If Uwe has any future as a manager he will soon realise that no one in our squad would make an inch of difference to what he has available at the moment. Maybe Forshaw, but I doubt he will force McCarthur, Powell, Gomez or McCann out of the team any time in the next 6-12 months.

 

[Bill Benn]

CD is in contract until the summer, if he doesn't agree terms on a new contract then we still have him until the end of the season.

Fillo is not our to loan out, I am sure he can go back if we all agree.

If Uwe was here Trotta would stay, we don't know what Warbs is all about yet, maybe he brought trotta in and if he did he may stay, or even sign a permanent.

If he doesn't agree on a new contract he can still go if someone meets the release clause.

 

[Westlad]

If Uwe has any future as a manager he will soon realise that no one in our squad would make an inch of difference to what he has available at the moment. Maybe Forshaw, but I doubt he will force McCarthur, Powell, Gomez or McCann out of the team any time in the next 6-12 months.

Agree but also think Forshaw would be likely to leave in January anyway, even if Uwe was still here.

 

[Beeian]

If Uwe has any future as a manager he will soon realise that no one in our squad would make an inch of difference to what he has available at the moment. Maybe Forshaw, but I doubt he will force McCarthur, Powell, Gomez or McCann out of the team any time in the next 6-12 months.

My sentiments entirely, people I have spoken to about Uwe raiding the team, I have said would any player currently at Brentford enhance the Wigan side or are any of our current team members better than what he already has. If he raids Brentford for one or two players then he's going the wrong way

 

[Captain Colon]

The Wigan side has considerable potential and experience and I agree that apart from Forshaw , nobody else could drastically improve UR s new team . I can see him making signings but from Premiership and Continental clubs perhaps .

 

[ladbroke]

I thought that international loans are more like transfers and the players can be loaned out domestically for short periods of time.
Didn't it happen last season?
I know they closed the loophole of fielding unlimited foreign loans but nothing about reloaning loan players out.

 

[jlove]

If he doesn't agree on a new contract he can still go if someone meets the release clause.

Even if he does agree on a new contract he can still talk and go if someone meets the release clause in the new contract, which may be lower than the previous one, given that his "value" is probably less than it was 2 years ago and we would not be offering him a long contract. It's all a bit academic.

 

[wanderer paul]

Some big decisions to make in January. Nugent to return to Cardiff. Harris & Saville keep for the season. If Victoria Plezn can agree to take Fillo back then that's gone by me, therefore giving Dallas a chance to stake his claim for a squad place. Trotta? Send back and get another forward in?Depends what he's costing and whether he's been value for us and the team.....

 

[sonofabee]

Even if he does agree on a new contract he can still talk and go if someone meets the release clause in the new contract, which may be lower than the previous one, given that his "value" is probably less than it was 2 years ago and we would not be offering him a long contract. It's all a bit academic.

Agree but goalscorers will always be in demand and a bigger club who desperately need one will pay what they have to - suspect he'll easily get a two year deal on a lot more money at a bigger club than he's on now. It's not going to be money that we'll rely on to convince him to stay, it's the fact that he's successful, enjoying his football, loved and maybe we offer him a huge bonus if he stays, get us up and a promise of a two year deal once we know.

 

[CTBee]

This is what I would do:
OUT: Fillo, Barron, Trotta & Nugent
IN: Ibe, McAleny (if fit, if not another striker) & an experienced CB who can cover TC and HD.
Extend Saville and Harris loans.
Recall/don't extend Dallas and Norris' loans at Northampton

 

[CTBee]

Oh and of course try to get Clayton to sign a new deal

 

[Bill Benn]

Even if he does agree on a new contract he can still talk and go if someone meets the release clause in the new contract, which may be lower than the previous one, given that his "value" is probably less than it was 2 years ago and we would not be offering him a long contract. It's all a bit academic.

Yep