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Away Ticket Pricing & Leeds (A)

Mark Devlin has pointed me in the direction of the relevant rules.

The ones relevant to treatment of away supporters are reproduced below.

I thought Leeds sat away supporters in the corner and therefore must be sold at the lowest level of pricing. What are the actual arrangement Leeds make and how are they able to charge more for away seating than in other stands?

34.2 Facilities for visiting supporters

34.2.1 Each Club must make provision for at least 2,000 visiting supporters at every home match or such number as represents 10% of the Club’s certified capacity, if less than 2,000. The League may, on the prior written application of a Club, suspend this Regulation or reduce the figure either for a particular League Match or for a period of time. Each Club shall, subject to any dispensations granted by the Board, make provision for at least 200 of the visiting supporters to be accommodated under cover. Any Club which fails to meet the requirement of 200 visiting supporters being accommodated under cover and which does not have a dispensation granted by the Board shall have such amounts as the Board shall determine (in its absolute discretion) withheld from that Club’s central distributions from the Pool Account until such time as the Club can meet the requirement.

34.2.2 Clubs are required to sell tickets for their away matches if required to do so by the Home Club and similarly Home Clubs are required to supply tickets for their Home Matches to the Away Club for sale by the Away Club to its supporters if so requested by the Away Club. These tickets are to be made available on a sale or return basis and must be ordered by the Away Club at least five weeks before the League Match to which they relate. The Home Club must deliver those tickets to the Away Club at the latest four weeks before the League Match to which they relate. Where any match is arranged at shorter notice the above steps shall be taken as soon as is reasonably practicable. Visiting Supporters should also have the same opportunity to take advantage of pre-booking discounts that apply to home supporters.

34.2.3 For League Matches only, the Away Club shall be entitled to a commission representing 5 (five) per cent of the aggregate sales (exclusive of VAT) of tickets sold on behalf of the Home Club, unless otherwise agreed between the Clubs. The Away Club shall submit a VAT invoice, in respect of the commission due, to the Home Club within five working days of the date of the match taking place.

34.2.4 The Away Club may charge a booking fee or transaction charge to the customer providing this is exactly the same in every respect as that which it charges for tickets to its own home matches.

34.2.5 Each Club shall, not later than 30th June prior to the commencement of the following Season, provide to The League a ground/zone plan together with associated ticket prices (‘Pricing Plan’). The Pricing Plan shall be accompanied by the Club’s ground registration form.

34.2.6 The League shall provide copies of each Pricing Plan to all other Clubs within the relevant Division. For the avoidance of doubt this will only be done once all Pricing Plans have been received for the relevant Division.

34.2.7 A Club may not depart from the Pricing Plan without the prior consent of the relevant Away Club. In the event that the Home Club and Away Club are unable to reach agreement the dispute shall be referred to The League whose decision shall be final and binding.

34.2.8 No Club shall charge higher admission prices for visiting supporters for accommodation that is ranked as comparable with or inferior to that used by supporters of the Home Club in the same or next highest ranked accommodation. For the purposes of this Regulation, accommodation shall be allocated a ranking as indicated by the table below (where 1 represents the best available and 6 the lowest) having regard to the following criteria:

(a) Covered seating;

(b) Uncovered seating;

(c) Covered terracing;

(d) Uncovered terracing;

(e) Behind the touchline;

(f) Behind the goal line; and

(g) In the corners of the stadium (i.e. behind both the touchline and the goal line).

34.2.9 Notwithstanding the provisions of Regulation 34.2.8:

(a) if the visiting supporters have use of the only standing area in the ground, the admission prices charged for this area must be at least 10 per cent lower than the price charged for the cheapest covered seats. This arrangement does not apply to designated family sections; and

(b) if the visiting supporters have use of accommodation that is of an equivalent or lower ranking (using the table set out in Regulation 34.2.8) to that available to the home supporters, but the accommodation used by visiting supporters is reasonably considered to be of a higher standard for other reasons then the admission prices charged for this accommodation may be higher than the price charged to those home supporters in the equivalently or lower ranked accommodation. Any such increase shall be limited to such amount as is reasonably justifiable but in any event shall be no greater than 10 per cent of the value of the price charged to those home supporters. In the event of any dispute between two Clubs as to what amount is reasonable, the dispute shall be referred to The League whose decision shall be final and binding.

34.2.10 Concessionary admission prices for senior citizens and children, if available to supporters of the Home Club, must also be available on a similar basis to visiting supporters. 34.2.11 Subject to Regulation 34.2.7, discounts or special promotions (in each case for one match only) made available to supporters of the Home Club must also be made available on a similar basis to visiting supporters.

34.2.12 At every home match, a minimum of 10 per cent of the total disabled spectator accommodation must be made available to disabled supporters of the Away Club.

34.2.13 Payments for tickets sold by an Away Club together with details of tickets sold and the return of unsold tickets, must be made to (i.e. receipt of cleared funds by) the Home Club within seven working days of the date of the match taking place. Any Club making late payment shall:

(a) pay interest to the Home Club at the rate of 5 (five) per cent per annum over Barclays Bank base rate in force from time to time calculated on a daily basis, on the outstanding sum from the due date to the actual date of payment to the Home Club; and

(b) forfeit their entitlement to the 5 (five) per cent commission detailed in Regulation 34.2.3.
 

Away Ticket Pricing & Leeds (A)

Do we know what Leeds charge their home fans and other away clubs fans. Where we were sat for this game, could be argued as being less favourable than the home fans sitting adjacent to us and alongside the side that part of their ground.
So Mark Devlin trying to do something about this going forward ?
 
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Because we are good and potential promotion candidates?

It really is 13ull sh*t ! Their game against Millwall wasn't Category A+ !

So basically we can't reciprocate what they are doing to us at Griffin Park and charge them extortionate prices to get in

Would really like to know how many of their fans pay top dollar to get in, or maybe they are all season ticket holders and or concessionary prices.
 

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https://www.leedsunited.com/tickets/info#/collapse1

Why is our game a Category A+ game ? how do they work out what game is Category A+, Category A or Category B

It isnt (wasnt) Category A +

It was Category A (as it was a Saturday at 3 game I guess)

The Away Fans are at the SIDE of the Ground

NOT the End

So Leeds North and South Stands are Not available to away fans

No Club shall charge higher admission prices for visiting supporters for accommodation that is ranked as comparable with or inferior to that used by supporters of the Home Club in the same or next highest ranked accommodation.

So the Cheapest seat is East Central Lower and West Stand which in our case was 39
 
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Category A is 39 in adavnce
And 44 on the Day

Category A + is 44 in advance
And 49 on Match Day
 

Away Ticket Pricing & Leeds (A)

It really is 13ull sh*t ! Their game against Millwall wasn't Category A+ !

So basically we can't reciprocate what they are doing to us at Griffin Park and charge them extortionate prices to get in

Would really like to know how many of their fans pay top dollar to get in, or maybe they are all season ticket holders and or concessionary prices.

The only way to stop this is for all away fans to boycott Leeds. It's not Leeds fans fault and as such they should not be made to pay for their clubs inadequacies.
 

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The only way to stop this is for all away fans to boycott Leeds. It's not Leeds fans fault and as such they should not be made to pay for their clubs inadequacies.

Which is exactly what I did. £100+ for a day out in Leeds. Thanks, but no thanks! :very angry:

It's not as if they are exactly strapped for cash with all the TV revenue they're getting! :scratch:
 

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The only way to stop this is for all away fans to boycott Leeds. It's not Leeds fans fault and as such they should not be made to pay for their clubs inadequacies.

LOASA :nono:
 

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The Away Fans are at the SIDE of the Ground

That's what I thought to. Behind the goal line AND the touch line. In which case how are they getting away with this?
 

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The rule should be changed so that away fans are charged the lowest prices in the stadium, regardless of where they happen to be situated. After all, they have no choice in the matter.
 

Away Ticket Pricing & Leeds (A)

The rule should be changed so that away fans are charged the lowest prices in the stadium, regardless of where they happen to be situated. After all, they have no choice in the matter.

i think the twenty's plenty campaign was really perfect, in this regard. did the Prem introduce it? or they went for 30, right?

given all the money in the game, and the travel etc involved, there should be some "solidarity" and encouragement for fans to support their teams on the road - and a 20-pound cap would acknowledge that.
 

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For most matches the cost of fuel, parking and incidentals (food, drink) vastly outweighs the cost of the match ticket and so I don't normally pay much attention to this subject. But these Leeds prices did raise my eyebrows. The highest championship prices I've ever seen!

The one thing I will say in their defence is that they define "senior" as over 60 rather than (as most clubs do) 65. Thus I paid only £26. But that's no consolation for most people of course.
 

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That's what I thought to. Behind the goal line AND the touch line. In which case how are they getting away with this?

Away end at Leeds isn't behind the goal line, side stand only
 

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The one thing I will say in their defence is that they define "senior" as over 60 rather than (as most clubs do) 65. Thus I paid only £26. But that's no consolation for most people of course.


life expectancy is lower up north :)
 

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Lots of people still went and paid the rip-off prices. So they will keep doing it if they can get away with it.
 

Away Ticket Pricing & Leeds (A)

Lots of people still went and paid the rip-off prices. So they will keep doing it if they can get away with it.

Leeds get charged top dollar everywhere too , they won't give a toss whether 500 Brentford fans go or not
 

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Leeds get charged top dollar everywhere too , they won't give a toss whether 500 Brentford fans go or not

Maybe not. But it's a waste of time attacking the morality of it sadly. We all know it's a rip-off but still buy the tickets anyway
 

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Maybe not. But it's a waste of time attacking the morality of it sadly. We all know it's a rip-off but still buy the tickets anyway

We the fans have the power....
 

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We the fans have the power....

In this instance I don't really think we do, you're always going to get at least a couple hundred going to Leeds so don't think they're really going to be too fussed about 300 fans worth missed revenue.
 

Away Ticket Pricing & Leeds (A)

In this instance I don't really think we do, you're always going to get at least a couple hundred going to Leeds so don't think they're really going to be too fussed about 300 fans worth missed revenue.

All away fans should agree to boycott Elland road for a whole season. They would soon change the policy once negative PR kicks in
 

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The one thing I will say in their defence is that they define "senior" as over 60 rather than (as most clubs do) 65. Thus I paid only £26. But that's no consolation for most people of course.

Life expectancy is lower up there. But their long term memories must be pretty impressive.... champions.....when
 

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In this instance I don't really think we do, you're always going to get at least a couple hundred going to Leeds so don't think they're really going to be too fussed about 300 fans worth missed revenue.

Other teams need to, not just us, they would then be fussed.
 

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All away fans should agree to boycott Elland road for a whole season. They would soon change the policy once negative PR kicks in

They probably wouldn't give a toss, being "big" club and all that.
 
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