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Bees Vs Swans Match Reports

Two outstanding finishes...never at the races in the second half... almost accidentally clapped the second goal :sneakoff:

Not a disaster :)
 

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Thought we played well for much of the game and the first was completely against the run of play - although Swansea started strongly, we had come back into the game when Knight got his first. I thought One Eye should have done better with the second.

Swansea are the best team we've played this season by some considerable distance IMHO. And they can have players of the quality of Robinson and Fallon on the bench. But if Poll had given us a penalty when Moore's shirt was tugged in the area, or when their player handballed ... we might have got more than we deserved.

I thought the funeral music played as we left was completely unnecessary.
 

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Played some nice football at times, but cannot deal with Knight - two well taken goals and Swansea deserved the win.

Shame as their defence was poor.
 

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Two outstanding finishes...never at the races in the second half... almost accidentally clapped the second goal :sneakoff:

Not a disaster :)

:imwith:

You can't expect goals like that every week. I thought the first half was a really good game of football - end to end.
 

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Agreed, although the left back position is a problem as Tillen looked atroscious. More disappointed that the BYE was all that could be heard in the second half. If everyone in Brook Road shuffled ten feet to the right we could kick the spotty ****ers out
 

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Men and Boys. We tried to play some football and I had some entertainment at least . Better than losing playing hoofball. Tomlin looked very good. Swansea easily the best we've played against so far and Pratley bossed it for them.In case any of us were deluded enough to think we're playoff material , tonight showed the gap we have to bridge.
 

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We looked very good going forward in first half mainly due to Kafour skills on and off the ball, we were always dodgy at the back. He run out of puff in second half
Second half we laid down and died, never at the races and Swansea just killed the game off, their second was a good goal by the little cheating horrible man:eek:

Oh and the person with most possession G.Poll what a dick, did he really think we paid money to listen and watch him:mad2:

What was that challenge on Kev by Pratley about?

Thought our subs were dissappointing and didnt make much sense (unlike Blackpool game).

Long winter beckons Im afraid, but keep in this divison and there will be 6 points to be had by that joke team from Loftus Road
 

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I thought we did our best but Swansea were just stronger and fitter and played it around pretty well. Two class finishes although we were looking good at the start of the second half until they scored. Bit too much ball in the air against a side who must have the tallest players in the division but I never thought we were wholly out of it until the last ten minutes when we seemed to tire. Disappointed, but not as much as I would expect to be after a 0-2.
 

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I thought that on the whole we were ok going forward and made lots of chances - KOC missed from a corner at 0 - 0 when it looked easier to score.

The problem left side was just that - Tillen was always out of position (come on Sam, we know you're better than that) so we went for our fifth left back of the season and things improved a little. Liked the look of Moore again, he's got a very good touch and excellent awareness. My problem today was the midfield. Cox looked ok but I can't understand why we want an attacking midfielder. I thought he and Pinault didn't work well together and left the defence exposed.

Afikenwa (sp?) and Knight were the diffference though but I have to say that I'm not disheartened though it would be nice to Oli and Framps back.

Graham Poll made sure we knew he was there. :rolleyes:
 

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I must go against what has been said thus far by saying we were much better second half. How many times did Swansea hit the post first half and how many times did we make their keeper work? Second half we played some really nice football apart from the last 10 minutes when we knew the game was up. What I suspected would happen did and we were shown up by the best strikers we have faced thus far. Stupid second goal to concede as we backed off and off Knight and gave him a free shot at goal. However much more pleased with toiday than Saturday if not with the result.
 

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I suppose there's some symmetry in the fact that that was the first time we've lost since we lost 2-0 at home to Swansea courtesy of two Leon Knight goals. :(
 

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i am not too dissappointed as we were beaten by a good team.....their forward play was excellent but we kept going and probably created the most chances that we have had in a match this season.i hope we stick with Moore and kuffour for saturday
 

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i am not too dissappointed as we were beaten by a good team.....their forward play was excellent but we kept going and probably created the most chances that we have had in a match this season.i hope we stick with Moore and kuffour for saturday

:imwith: :sorted:
 

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Not too disheartened. Though we more than matched them in the first half and played some excellent attacking football, but we were let down by a combination of poor finishing and hopeless defending. Tillen had an absolute 'mare and was replaced by by Osbourne who looked even more of a rabbit in the headlights. Once we'd given Knight too much time on the ball for the second time the game was all but over. Tomlin had an exciting little cameo but left Osbourne more and more exposed and we always looked more likely to let another in than score.. The chance when three players in the six yard box had a swing at an open goal and all missed rather summed the game up for us..

The simple fact is, we've brought a midfielder/striker in on loan but we still need a midfielder and a striker!! :(

Kuffour had a couple of great chances but could only hit the keeper and although for once we were getting some good crosses into the box there was never anyone there, for all Moore's good play outside the box he was never in there where it counts to get the ball in the net..

Positives were some great attacking football at pace in the first half with Kuffour and Brooker linking to great effect and Rhodes finally showing a bit of his old promise..

The downside was Tillen losing his man time and time again and Heywood getting turn inside out. Also Leroy's substitutions didnt work out at all this time round..

Difficult to rate the new boy, showed some good touches and passes and tried to get stuck in but looked a little lost in midfield and wasnt the ball winner that we need in there at the moment..
 

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:no:

More effort, but still no end product. Why do you think he was dragged for Tomlin.

Thought it was mainly because he wasnt tracking back, he was linking up quite well with the front two in the first half and was causing them a lot of problems, though I'd agree he didnt get enough crosses in..
 

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Really enjoyed the game.
Strange that as we lost 0-2???

Thought we tried hard but Swansea were a league above us, to think they really should have been three up by half time..
Bees are showing that they will try and play football and I thought some of the build up play to the front line was excellent..

Kuffour is mustard - he really could be one of the best players ever for us.
Moore had some nice ideas but looks niave and off the pace.
Rhodes just isn't up to the grade although he did win most headers.
Tillen was Tillen, clueless and an easy option for Swansea to attack all night.
O'Conner again quality.

Both goals were good but how much room did we have to give Knight?
He proved what he can do last season and we just stepped off of him and almost applauded his strikes??
 

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Best we played all season I think..........
 

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Ahh well, the run had the end eventually. And if you are going to lose you might as well do it by condeding two cracking goals. Not too upset, Swansea deserved the win, they should have been 2-0 up before they go their first.

We need to start taking our chances when they are presented to us, the real challenge is how we pick ourselves up and react on Saturday.
 

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It was always going to be hard and although we played very well going forward, their proven quality up front was the difference.

We'll play worse and win, in fact I think we have already.

Swansea had strength in bearing in mind that they had Robinson and Fallon as subs but we showed signs that suggest when we are only two or three short of being a good side.

Chris Moore and Jo played well together and if Moore can find an extra yard of pace or fitness he'll score plenty as he has quick footballing brain. I also think that Gavin Tomlin has the ability to beat full backs for fun, just needs to focus and become professional as at times he was wandering around beside Karleigh when he should have been getting forward.

Main concerns are Sam Tillens lack of progress this year, thought he had the makings of a good attacking fullback but he seems to have gone backwards.
Nelson needs to stop believing his own hype and concentrating on improving his goalkeeping, still too quick to get involved in everybody elses business.
Finally Rhodesy is unfortunately not showing any signs of improvement. Given that he was up against an immobile lump who got skinned by Gavin Tomlin and Karleigh Osbourne in the second half, he won't get many better opportunities to use his pace and get past his man. In fairness his first touch was better today but he just ran aimlessly until he came up against someone and then lost control on too many occasions.

All in all a pretty good performance given we're still missing key players and were up against a very good attacking team. (Didn't rate any of their defence and how bad were they in the air considering all over 6 ft?)

What is nice is that we continued to try to play good football and although the final pass and finish wasn't there, the attractive quick passing and movement was at times. Need a bit more beef to be able to mix it but when Oli and Framps back think we'll be fine.

Nelson 6 Needs to cut out the showman and concentrate more
Kev O 7 Solid as usual
Heywood 6 Battled away well and stuck to his task
Griffiths 6 Didn't shirk, but always up against it with Knight
Sam T 4 Abysmal and run ragged by little Britten
Paul B 7.5 Getting better and linked up play, good delivery
Thomas 6.5 One of his quieter games but has quality we need
Simon Cox 7 Good debut, showed touches and strikes ball well
Rhodes 4 I really want him to do well but pace isn't enough
Jo 8 Quality, performance way above this standard
Chris M 7 If only he had pace to go with his football brain

Subs

Karleigh 6 Some very good bits, some dire but will be good IMHO
Gavin 7 Has to start ahead of Rhodesy, control and skill
Big Cal * Asterisk indicates no actual contact with ball, one brave jump when he almost made contact but gave away a foul!
 

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Why didn't Pratley ever play like that for us?? Lucky not to be booked in first minute though and pity that JK didn't give us the lead early on, better side won although we contributed to a cracking end to ender for 60 minutes. Not downhearted but we were shown how to break at speed tonight. Not many away teams break with 6 players 5 mins from end when 2 up.
 

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best 45mins of football I have seen at gp for a while in the first half, and I mean that for both teams, was really end to end, and by passing, not just lumping it 60 yards.
Some of our football today was a pleasure to watch, can't believe I feel as positive as I do after a home defeat(:()
Knight was superb, but was matched by Kuffour, who once again looked lively, and thought him and Moore looked a real threat. Cox did ok, nothing special, please, has anyone got any news on Oli, we miss his all round ability.
O'Connor played well, and Pinault also.

Swansea will be up there this season, and as long as we play like that, we should be in for an enjoyable season, and hopefully finish in the top half.


One gripe, coming home, plenty of bees ringing Radio 5 complaining about Knight's celebration for the 2nd goal, give it up, unfortunately this is football, and if it had been one of our players doing it to their fans, we would probably have been bigging it up.
 

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It was always going to be hard and although we played very well going forward, their proven quality up front was the difference.

We'll play worse and win, in fact I think we have already.

Swansea had strength in bearing in mind that they had Robinson and Fallon as subs but we showed signs that suggest when we are only two or three short of being a good side.

Chris Moore and Jo played well together and if Moore can find an extra yard of pace or fitness he'll score plenty as he has quick footballing brain. I also think that Gavin Tomlin has the ability to beat full backs for fun, just needs to focus and become professional as at times he was wandering around beside Karleigh when he should have been getting forward.

Main concerns are Sam Tillens lack of progress this year, thought he had the makings of a good attacking fullback but he seems to have gone backwards.
Nelson needs to stop believing his own hype and concentrating on improving his goalkeeping, still too quick to get involved in everybody elses business.
Finally Rhodesy is unfortunately not showing any signs of improvement. Given that he was up against an immobile lump who got skinned by Gavin Tomlin and Karleigh Osbourne in the second half, he won't get many better opportunities to use his pace and get past his man. In fairness his first touch was better today but he just ran aimlessly until he came up against someone and then lost control on too many occasions.

All in all a pretty good performance given we're still missing key players and were up against a very good attacking team. (Didn't rate any of their defence and how bad were they in the air considering all over 6 ft?)

What is nice is that we continued to try to play good football and although the final pass and finish wasn't there, the attractive quick passing and movement was at times. Need a bit more beef to be able to mix it but when Oli and Framps back think we'll be fine.

Nelson 6 Needs to cut out the showman and concentrate more
Kev O 7 Solid as usual
Heywood 6 Battled away well and stuck to his task
Griffiths 6 Didn't shirk, but always up against it with Knight
Sam T 4 Abysmal and run ragged by little Britten
Paul B 7.5 Getting better and linked up play, good delivery
Thomas 6.5 One of his quieter games but has quality we need
Simon Cox 7 Good debut, showed touches and strikes ball well
Rhodes 4 I really want him to do well but pace isn't enough
Jo 8 Quality, performance way above this standard
Chris M 7 If only he had pace to go with his football brain

Subs

Karleigh 6 Some very good bits, some dire but will be good IMHO
Gavin 7 Has to start ahead of Rhodesy, control and skill
Big Cal * Asterisk indicates no actual contact with ball, one brave jump when he almost made contact but gave away a foul!

Spot on assessment. The 3 players you talk about wouldn't happen to be Skulason, Frampton and Owusu would they :D
 

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Why didn't Pratley ever play like that for us??

At the start of last season he did.

Then he picked up an injury, Allen rushed him back to suit his own needs and only after a proper pre-season is he fully fit and firing again. Having a very good defensive shield behind him also helped :shrug:
 

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One gripe, coming home, plenty of bees ringing Radio 5 complaining about Knight's celebration for the 2nd goal, give it up, unfortunately this is football, and if it had been one of our players doing it to their fans, we would probably have been bigging it up.

:imwith:

I can never understand this from any football fans, the man on the terrace gives out loads but doesn't like it when it comes back :shrug: Unless it's one of our players, then it's great :rolleyes:
 

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A very good performance but we lost to a team with a sharper cutting esge and a bit more experience.

First half was excellent, really entertaining. We had good early chnaces and didn't take them and once they got into their stride we were up against it.

Knight was mustard, really great finishes and movement off the ball and Akinfenwa was a nuisence.

We tried hard and passed the ball beautifully at times but didn't get enough men into the box and the final ball was lacking.

Kuffour, Brooker and O'Connor linked up very well and Cox did ok for a debut.

Overall it's hard to not be pleased with the way we played but we all know we need more up front and on the left side.
 

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West Ealing Bee said:
the statuesque Swans' striker
:confused: I thought statuesque in this context suggested completely immobile. Not the Knight I saw tonight. However, having checked Chambers Online Dictionary, it says statuesque means "tall and well-proportioned". Knight may be well-proportioned, but he isn't tall! :D
 

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:confused: I thought statuesque in this context suggested completely immobile. Not the Knight I saw tonight. However, having checked Chambers Online Dictionary, it says statuesque means "tall and well-proportioned". Knight may be well-proportioned, but he isn't tall! :D

I think it's fair to assume I fecked that one up :sneakoff:
 

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It had to end sometime. Swansea looked a very good team to me for this league. Not dissapointed. We kept playing football and heads didn't seam to drop. The Swansea team all looked like brick outhouses barring those two pesky little midgets.

Oh, and was I dreaming or did Brooker pull off a Bobby Moore style tackle late on?
 

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Good game as others have said, difference was that arrogant but talented Knight, first strike was a bit special as was second although I thought KO was at fault a bit by laying off him, can't see how one eye could be blamed for either to be honest.

Positives were the front two, Cox did well for his debut and Brooker had another decent game, as everyone says left side is the problem, Tillen looked off the pace , sad to see but true, Rhodes is just going backwards, again sad to see but true.

We need Framps and Oli back ASAP

Saturday is sudenly a big game...one they need to bounce back from.

Thought Poll did OK to be honest...liked his booking of Knight for "simulation".
 

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I'm a bit surprised that most people only think that Simon Cox was 'okay' - after a fairly quiet first half from him I thought he got to grips with the pace of the game and in the second half he made some really good runs and showed some nice passing touches too. I'd be interested to see how he does as a striker. If we can't get the big target man until Lloyd returns, then he might be worth a try - he looks a tidy player like Chris Moore, but with a bit more strength.

Overall, it wasn't an unenjoyable game despite the scoreline and some of the attacking play was nice to watch even if there wasn't much in the way of clear cut chances. They were two lovely goals by Knight, but if you give him space, that's the outcome.

I don't understand what's happened to Sam Tillen. As last season went on he started to look good and yet he really hasn't been in any kind of form at all this season, not even in the pre-season friendlies. Even when Oli and Frampton are back, the left-side is still a problem as Alex Rhodes just doesn't do it for me at all - he is a player destined to be a substitute, I think! It might be worth giving Gavin Tomlin a go down that side even though he is right-footed.

There were a good few positives to come out of the game - but what was the point of that last ten minute appearance by Willock? !! He tries, but...:(
 

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It seems strange to come away happier with a home defeat than an away draw but after tonight, I'm more confident than ever that we won't struggle this season and a comfortable mid-table finish should be the least we;re aiming for.
 

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Not dissapointed as we played some very good attacking football during the match but were beaten by a big, strong team. On another day we would have beaten most teams. Second half all they they had was one shot at goal plus a header near the end.
It would be interesting if Oli was fit so that Simon Cox could partner Jo K upfront. Those two would have pace.
Tomlin needs to start ahead of Rhodes now he's fit.
 

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I think the result was fair and Swansea were simply a level too good for us last night.
Swansea look a really tough and mobile team who I believe will go up automatically. They are without doubt the best team I have seen play against us this season. Knight caused our back 4 so many problems and should have ended up with at least a hat-trick, and he should be playing in the Championship. I thought Tate (really impressed with Tate by the way) and Pratley easily won the midfield battle and with the nippy Britton on the right they stretched us and caused us a lot of problems on our left. Our midfield pairing of Cox and Pinault really didn’t work well in my opinion and their positional play, particularly Pinault’s, was really disappointing at times.
Overall I am not overly concerned by this result as we had quite a few good chances as well and we were not completely over-run by them at all.

By the way I thought the ref Poll had a shocking 1st half (admittedly he did improve in the 2nd,well he couldn’t get any worse) and some of his decisions were appalling. I am not saying this because we lost as I thought Swansea deservedly won the match without the help of Poll. I really am baffled as to how this twit has managed to referee premiership and international matches in the past.
 

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One gripe, coming home, plenty of bees ringing Radio 5 complaining about Knight's celebration for the 2nd goal, give it up, unfortunately this is football, and if it had been one of our players doing it to their fans, we would probably have been bigging it up.



How many two faced muppets loved Nelson for winding up the Orient fans last weekend :rolleyes:
 

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Excellent game from both sides, hope you play like that on my 'future visits'.

It looked promising at the Blackpool game, no 'hoofball' only passing, good philosophy for footy I think. At the time I thought a draw would have been fairer to Blackpool, but considering the changes you've had from last season, I'm sure it will take time to gel properly.

As some of you said great game to watch, much better than the Fulham game I went to recently.

When we were 2 up and Pratley put that perfect through ball for your striker, wasn't sure if he forgot he wasn't playing for you any more or if he felt his old mates dodn't deserve to be 2 down.

Best of luck for the rest of season (except Swans away of course).

EDIT: Forget to mention, we call Britton 'Big Leon' and Knight 'Little Leon', just so we don't mix them up
 

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Not there so no match comments from me. It had to happen sometime nevertheless,it seems we played fairly well against a really decent side.

I feel that the real test for Leroy and the team will come on Saturday. They need to prove that they can brush it off and start the process all over again. For this purpose Bournemouth is the ideal team to meet as at least they try to play football.
 

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Well I think that last season Swansea were unlucky not to go up and would probably have done OK in the Championship. Since then they have strengthened so a well fought defeat to them while we are missing 3 key players is no embarrassment nor does it signal the end of our involvement with the upper reaches of the table.
 

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Defence woeful last night and we will struggle if we can`t get a tackle in or fail to pick up at crosses.

The difference in the two teams is they had class in key positions, where as we had kids and free transfers.

I do think Leroy needs to try and work on our defence as we are giving the oppo a lot of chances and unless we have got a sh*t hot forward line, we will be in trouble.

The two goals were awful defending and Nelson was at fault for the second, forgetting of course the failure to tackle Knight by three players.

It is vital on Sat that we get at least a point, because with such a team of kids and no depth we could get dragged down.

Didn`t think Cox looked a CM either, but 1 month is not going to prove anything.
 

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Why didn't Pratley ever play like that for us?? Lucky not to be booked in first minute


Lucky not to be booked. I'd have shown him red and that little sh!t Britton
 

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One gripe, coming home, plenty of bees ringing Radio 5 complaining about Knight's celebration for the 2nd goal, give it up, unfortunately this is football, and if it had been one of our players doing it to their fans, we would probably have been bigging it up.


I phoned up qand complained about Poll.

Knight is Knight and will always be an arrogant ****
 

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One gripe, coming home, plenty of bees ringing Radio 5 complaining about Knight's celebration for the 2nd goal, give it up, unfortunately this is football, and if it had been one of our players doing it to their fans, we would probably have been bigging it up.

Yes, I was embarrased by that. Only listened to one call, but some fella called Keith was moaning about it saying it could cause a riot :rolleyes: If people riot over that then there is no hope for us anyway.

If I could have been arsed I would have phoned up and said I was right there and have no complaints at all.....to give the guy a break, tis called banter... and would be no fun if it was all one way traffic...its not like he did it to the family stand anyway :rolleyes:

It is like when people moaned about big bad Fletch giving us some sh*te against bourmouth on New Years Day... no dramas its is the fun of the fair :mad2:

Rant over :fishing:
 

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brilliant game foffootball in the first half, absolutely dreadful after their second goal. the effort shown by the players in the last five minutes was frankly poor.

nelson - no chance with first goal, tried to get fans going but would have helped more if he'd put both hands behind knights second
kev - did alright no more
grifffiths - backed off knight far too much. not brilliant
heywood - a better performance but turns like a milk float
tillen - cant defend and was facing a good attacking midfielder. struggled
pinault - his quietest game yet, had no-one to pass too at times
cox - did alright. tackling looks a bit reckless, better going forwards
brooker - scared them with ball at his feet and played some tidy football
rhodes - runs fast but with little control of ball or end product
moore - good first half but faded
kuffour - though he was our best player again. keeps working and looks like scoring

subs
osbourne - kept going to final whistle unlike some others, problem with a righty at left back is that we kept hitting overly ambitious 50 yard balls to right mid
willock - didnt do a lot but came on late
tomlin - at least didnt get injured

i think we played a good team and could have scored a few ourselves, but we didnt play enough football in the second half and dont appear to have a ball winner anywhere in the team.
 

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I don't understand what's happened to Sam Tillen. As last season went on he started to look good and yet he really hasn't been in any kind of form at all this season, not even in the pre-season friendlies. Even when Oli and Frampton are back, the left-side is still a problem as Alex Rhodes just doesn't do it for me at all.(

I think you've hit the nail on the head re Tillen. If you view each flank as a unit then the left back relies on the player in front of him to some extent.

Whoever's playing left back needs some support and cover from the player in front. Rhodes doesn't give us that. Tillen may look better playing in front of Framps when he returns. They were solid enough on the few games they played together last season.

On the opposite flank, Kev is a great right back but Brooker (for all his faults) also helps him out ahead. Sure Brooker doesn't tackle back much but he's a constant threat to get forward and the opposing full back spends more time covering him and less getting down the flank and attacking.
 
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