Igor Thiago
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Well colour me surprised. 
A three game ban for that is a joke and the kangaroo court that decided this outcome know that deep down but have to protect that moron Atwell who has been a stain on the game since he sent Nathan Elder off about 15 years ago.
A three game ban for that is a joke and the kangaroo court that decided this outcome know that deep down but have to protect that moron Atwell who has been a stain on the game since he sent Nathan Elder off about 15 years ago.
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....I think you'll find mate it's those OCGs ... namely FIFA/IFAB who the appeals panel mustn't be upsetting.
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We should just cheat.
I hate cheaters. I really do.
But if we're to remain in this league (competitively) then we need to match them. If we cant "beat them", join them.
Im fed up with the way football has gone.
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Presumably because he is trying to hide away from questions asking to show the wound in his mouth.The way you have phrased that makes it sound like he hit him in the face on purpose. That would be a red card. The whole point is that the face contact was accidental when Thiago was looking the other way and trying to get away from being held - instigated by the premeditated provocation to fake an injury and persuade the ref to send him off.
I think I saw on Sky that the cheat has withdrawn from international duty - presumably another attempt to exaggerate the situation?
Or maybe his pride is hurt following being called out by various parties
Or the blood capsule has stained his chin....
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Do they have ex professionals on the review board to explain situations from experience etc?
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Igor Thiago
As said before.
We should now spend all of our time throwing ourselves to the ground, provoking players 24/7, cheating, screaming at the ref at every opportunity.
Its an absolute disgrace now and football in the prem is just a sh*t joke run by completely clueless clowns
We should now spend all of our time throwing ourselves to the ground, provoking players 24/7, cheating, screaming at the ref at every opportunity.
Its an absolute disgrace now and football in the prem is just a sh*t joke run by completely clueless clowns
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....I don't think it's Atwell who's being protected... he's expendable....I firmly believe it's VAR.Well colour me surprised.
A three game ban for that is a joke and the kangaroo court that decided this outcome know that deep down but have to protect that moron Atwell who has been a stain on the game since he sent Nathan Elder off about 15 years ago.
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Please no. Let's not go down this road. Let's prove ourselves better than all of the other sh*tbirds.
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Has been for several years now. The difference now i think is that more teams are exploiting the situation for their own gains. Its all about provocation....
aawharris
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And keep getting players sent off for absolutely no reason?
No thanks.
Man City have proven that cheats prosper in the Prem and we will go backwards if we dont wise up
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How do we prove that? And literally whats the point. As a club we're up against it anyway having a tiny budget compared to others, we need to take every single advantage we can.
I'm completely fed up of the way the game has gone, if we can't beat them then we might as well become as pathetic as them.
I'm really pissed off by this red card, I think it says so much about where the sport is.
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aawharris
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Igor Thiago
So would i, but f*** it now, its the only way to keep up with the rest and considering the Prem is now a joke, might as well.
You can also guarantee that if one of our players collapsed after having his hair brushed like others, he would probably be sent off due to a new rule implemented at that exact second.
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Igor Thiago
Principle.
And if nothing else it's raised the profile of these cheating c**ts.
And 90% of the comments have agreed that the Red card was unjust.
Igor Thiago
Most of us would, but if we are not going down the dark arts path to such an extent then we need to wise up to the prevalence of it in this league and avoid falling for it.
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Igor Thiago
As per the below article (which I understand to be accurate)
The appeal was lodged on the grounds that the incident was unintentional, with the west London club seeking to have the three-match ban for violent conduct overturned.
There was also a possibility the suspension could have been reduced if the punishment was deemed excessive, but the Football Association's regulatory commission dismissed the appeal.
The reasons for the decision have not been published.
Brentford news: Igor Thiago to serve three-match ban after Bees appeal against red card rejected
Brentford's appeal is rejected after Igor Thiago was shown a red card during Sunday's 2-0 defeat at Brighton.
www.bbc.co.uk
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The written reasons will come out soon (I can’t recall if there is a timeline for this) which should give us sufficient detail of why the appeal was rejected.
It’s been reported though that our case was on the basis they head contact was not deliberate and accidental contact is not violent conduct under Law 12.
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I have grown to despise the Premier League. I have no particular desire to go back to the hoofball of yore, but I really don't enjoy my football as much I used to. I don't know what the answer is. 
stevil
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Surely they just fall back on 'excessive force'? I mean, the poor kid was rushed to hospital for emergency facial reconstruction surgery at half time, so it must be that.
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It was never really the case unless the appeal was considered "frivolous" and without merit and that certainly wasn't the case here.
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Only frivolous ones. And I assume we didn't deliver our appeal in a box with a clown inside, so I guess they at least thought it was serious.
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Hate the cheating that goes on every week in every game. Diving, feigning injury, surrounding the ref to complain . It wasn’t perfect in the past but the levels of cheating now seen has been taken to a new level
There is not an obvious solution, behaving the same way because everyone else does it does not sit well but is understandable.
Might as well just accept that Managers/ players/ referees/ money and VAR have ruined the game as a sporting spectacle and probably one of the reasons that non league football is becoming more attractive although the cheating is evident at even that level
The antics of the players and lack of consistency by the officials has now taken away a major enjoyment of my life. I follow us via the GPG and at times watch us on the box but football is now no longer the pleasure it used to be
There is not an obvious solution, behaving the same way because everyone else does it does not sit well but is understandable.
Might as well just accept that Managers/ players/ referees/ money and VAR have ruined the game as a sporting spectacle and probably one of the reasons that non league football is becoming more attractive although the cheating is evident at even that level
The antics of the players and lack of consistency by the officials has now taken away a major enjoyment of my life. I follow us via the GPG and at times watch us on the box but football is now no longer the pleasure it used to be
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Scrap VAR. Keep goal line tech only.
Finally deal with simulation - large bans at a minimum.
For me this would solve enough problems to make the game much more enjoyable than it currently is.
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It is possible under the disciplinary regulations but in practice hasn’t happened for some time.
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I think this is possible. But, this was not the basis for the red card. Michael Oliver was plainly referring to more than negligible head contact only and his decision did not refer to excessive force or brutality which is the alternative route to a red card.
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Yeah - agree with all that. IMO, Jacquet's actions were particularly despicable. Constant antagonism, pathetic simulation, a Lazarus-like recovery and actual ****ing high-fiving with his captain when the ref was called over to the monitor. It would be so easy to review all of that in retrospect and apply sanctions. Hopefully our appeal goes some (small) way towards getting that conversation on the agenda.
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I'm inclined to agree:I have grown to despise the Premier League. I have no particular desire to go back to the hoofball of yore, but I really don't enjoy my football as much I used to. I don't know what the answer is.
-Teams playing not to lose, rather than win. Attractive football isn't rewarded.
-Grappling in the box at every set piece.
-Cheating, diving frauds that aren't punished.
-Overpriced everything.
-Managers treated like cannon fodder.
-Constant moaning about ref decision and VAR.
-Endless punditry spouted by those with no vocab.
- not wearing red and white stripes often enough
-lack of 3pm Saturday kick offs
And plenty more.
This should be the best ever time to be a Brentford fan; multi-million transfers, 6th year in the prem, aiming for Euro football...
And yet it all seems so sterile. Some of those wonderful moments like Jota's goals, the p/o win, the Man U drubbing and the Man C away win already seem distant memories.
Even much of the Bees football this season has been turgid. Trouble is, we have been so spoilt in the past 12 years.
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The crazy thing about this all is that VAR is the PERFECT tool to eradicate simulation, but they have no intention of using it for that
JCMcBee
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Igor Thiago
.... couldn't agree more....but having looked at the money being made from VAR by tech industry.... I'm afraid that particular genie won't be going back in the bottle anytime soon....imo we've all been conned.
stevil
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Igor Thiago
He said Thiago 'pushes his opponent in the face with force', which seems to me to cover both 'excessive force' and 'deliberately strikes... in the face' bases. So if we claim accidental, they say 'excessive force'.
Who knows though? They're completely mental.
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Igor Thiago
I waited 64 years to see Brentford in the top division. At the moment it's not much fun.
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Igor Thiago
I look forward all week to every one of our games. Incessant moaning by some of our fans on the match day thread irritates me sometimes.