Nathan Collins (3 Viewers)

[Scratchy]

Quick line from the press conference. Hallgrimsson stated that Collins was out for 5 weeks but that he should be available after the International break.

Think that would tally with the timeline on the Player Tracker

 

[Untouchable]

Admin being a tease again.


View: https://x.com/brentfordfc/status/2110430448564203998?s=61

 

[aslan]

Can count himself lucky that Diouf and Valdi are taking the most heat from yesterday tbh.
Looked like he'd been out for a lot longer than he has been.

 

[hardybee]

Can count himself lucky that Diouf and Valdi are taking the most heat from yesterday tbh.
Looked like he'd been out for a lot longer than he has been.

I agree, he didn’t look very composed on the ball at all. They way he played and the way the others have been playing he’s currently my 4th choice

 

[Hippobee]

I agree, he didn’t look very composed on the ball at all. They way he played and the way the others have been playing he’s currently my 4th choice

I thought this earlier in the season and I haven't changed my mind. He might be club captain, but he's not consistent enough for me. Others were also not great, but I don't see enough leadership on the pitch.

Schuster and Ajer are the 2 in the best form, with VDB as the next choice imo.

 

[taxi driver]

I think we might be missing his on pitch leadership qualities.

Our down turn in discipline may be linked

3 sending offs have contributed to defeats against Brighton & Liverpool so it's by no means terrible.

Maybe his presence is needed

 

[jlove]

I think we might be missing his on pitch leadership qualities.

Our down turn in discipline may be linked

3 sending offs have contributed to defeats against Brighton & Liverpool so it's by no means terrible.

Maybe his presence is needed

The team was conspicuously better and improved steadily in the second half. That's partially due to Brighton backing off a bit but his willingness to drive forward and keep the game moving made a big difference. That first half showed a distinct lack of leadership all around the pitch, so I think we need him back.

 

[Invipai]

I would bring him back in now. The message that you keep your place if playing well has been delivered. It's time for him to come back in.

 

[Bangor Bee]

Whether he is a better player than the other options is debatable, but I think we need him back as captain. He offers a calming influence on the pitch whereas Vitaly, for example, tends to get wound up and in that respect doesn't set the example the team seems to need.

 

[badgerbee]

I would bring him back in now. The message that you keep your place if playing well has been delivered. It's time for him to come back in.

Not necessarily arguing. But for who?

 

[Hullbee]

I would bring him back in now. The message that you keep your place if playing well has been delivered. It's time for him to come back in.

Yep bring him back

 

[Jezybee]

Assume he’s been called up. Usually bemoan International breaks, and worry about players getting injured, but with Collins could work in our favour if he gets match fitness playing a couple of games for Ireland.

 

[brentfordfc4ever]

On the radar of Man Utd United in January apparently.... Sorry, I can't seem to attach the link! Daily mail.

 

[North London Bee]

I can’t see a situation where we can keep 3 senior centre halves happy beyond the end of the season given the rise of Schuster and the presence of Arthur, Ji Soo and even Fredrick if he is seen as a centre half as well as right back.

Will be interesting to see how the game of musical chairs develops

 

[Hippobee]

On the radar of Man Utd United in January apparently.... Sorry, I can't seem to attach the link! Daily mail.

I think if Man U want to weigh in with £50m, then the club would not stand in his way.

Plenty clamouring for his return, mainly for his leadership qualities, not his defensive ones.

We might have looked better 2nd half when he came on, but the game was already lost.

He remains my 4th choice CB based on performances and form.

 

[LongLostBee]

I think if Man U want to weigh in with £50m, then the club would not stand in his way.

Plenty clamouring for his return, mainly for his leadership qualities, not his defensive ones.

We might have looked better 2nd half when he came on, but the game was already lost.

He remains my 4th choice CB based on performances and form.

Yeah I'd wish him well for 50/60 million.
I think Schuster is the future and with Ajer/SVDB and all the other up-and-comers, we've got plenty of options, I think this is one where I'd accept a big fee and reinvest futher upfield.

 

[Isleworth_Bee]

Comparing him to the open market............... I would want at least 60mill.

Brentford Captain
Ireland Captain.
Good player.

 

[Kingston Bee]

The team was conspicuously better and improved steadily in the second half. That's partially due to Brighton backing off a bit but his willingness to drive forward and keep the game moving made a big difference. That first half showed a distinct lack of leadership all around the pitch, so I think we need him back.

Fair enough but who do you drop.

 

[jlove]

Fair enough but who do you drop.

Keith must pick his 'best' players to start and that will depend on their availability and fitness for a specific game, as well as the contributions he thinks are needed for that game; that doesn't mean those players not selected are "dropped".

 

[upnorthbee]

Comparing him to the open market............... I would want at least 60mill.

Brentford Captain
Ireland Captain.
Good player.

He would be Man Utd's best defender that's for sure. I think Collins, VDB, Ajer and Schuster area all similar level tbh. But Collins and Ajer are stand our leaders. 60 million at least I think.

 

[mhead bee]

I would bring him back in now. The message that you keep your place if playing well has been delivered. It's time for him to come back in.

So the message is in fact, you keep your place for playing well, but only for a few games, then you get dropped regardless of form?

 

[JANORAK]

So the message is in fact, you keep your place for playing well, but only for a few games, then you get dropped regardless of form?

KA has to consider the overall picture as well. There’s no denying that we were better on Sunday when he came on. Add to that, our ‘disciplinary issues’ have arisen during his absence, and he should return asap. (Especially if we’re going to be flogging him to Untied…)

 

[Kingston Bee]

Keith must pick his 'best' players to start and that will depend on their availability and fitness for a specific game, as well as the contributions he thinks are needed for that game; that doesn't mean those players not selected are "dropped".

Agree, but your point was that Collins should be recalled to the starting lineup, my question remains who do you drop (other descriptions are available).

 

[Guildford Bee]

It was only a few games ago we were having to play Rico Henry and Aaron Hickey at CB and now some posters are seemingly comfortable with the prospect of Collins leaving?

 

[jlove]

Agree, but your point was that Collins should be recalled to the starting lineup, my question remains who do you drop (other descriptions are available).

My personal choice would be Collins and Berg; last season they were rated as our two best defenders and, if fully fit (let's see how he's returned from his international duties), I see no reason not to pick them. But I accept others may have different favourites.

 

[Freebee]

It was only a few games ago we were having to play Rico Henry and Aaron Hickey at CB and now some posters are seemingly comfortable with the prospect of Collins leaving?

Crazy isn't it.

We get good cover in a position and we're building a squad for Europe but the first sign of any interest in a player and Daily Mail gossip of all things and people start trying to justify it and talk the player down,it makes me

 

[hanworthbee]

I'd have him back in the team instead of sepp

 

[Kingston Bee]

My personal choice would be Collins and Berg; last season they were rated as our two best defenders and, if fully fit (let's see how he's returned from his international duties), I see no reason not to pick them. But I accept others may have different favourites.

Fair enough, the reason not to pick him is because we have another 2 very capable CBs who have been exceptional this season, but that obviously is up for debate. Personally i dont think there is much between them all, and the 2 who played against Brighton dont deserve to be replaced imo. It may be an issue that comes back to bite us if we cannot keep them all happy, who would be a manager.

 

[Hullbee]

Comparing him to the open market............... I would want at least 60mill.

Brentford Captain
Ireland Captain.
Good player.

Ireland captain is a long way off when Roy Keane had the armband