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sussexb said:
Indeed it did look lower than against Tranmere.
Gillingham support also spread out to make it look like there were more than there actually was. Somewhere between 1200 & 1500 imho.
Budget forecast for this game I believe was 7500, so someway short. No doubt MK dons will bring thousands above budget forecast though.
rebus
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Gee Bee said:
If they budgeted 7500 on a Bank Holiday Monday then they must have been nuts. How many times in the last fifteen years have we had a bigger crowd than 7000 for a home game in August.
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markbfc said:
I expect the budget included the flock of New Orleans residents leaving town, jumping on the first plane out to Heathrow and visiting GP in order to avoid Hurricane Katrina & the waves.
rofl
The H
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markbfc said:
Obviously Callen should have consulted you first as it is widely known that you are a world authority on likely crowd sizes.
200 for the Ghana v Senegal match wasn't it your last prediction.
I think he was a bit closer with his guess on Monday.
Ace Face
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I have been trying to get posters to think of the sh*t we are in and hope that we soon sell a player because our cashflow is dire. We now need AT LEAST 7500 every game to breakeven.
I am trying to help BFC by distributing the excellent flyers that we got with our STs. I should have them after the Franchise FC game.
I think we need to think about saying no to MA a little more often as well as an organised promotion campaign.
I am trying to help BFC by distributing the excellent flyers that we got with our STs. I should have them after the Franchise FC game.
I think we need to think about saying no to MA a little more often as well as an organised promotion campaign.
rebus
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Banana said:
in this case ambitious = riduculous
7500 v gills in October. yes. In August. no.
rebus
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JTofBFC said:Obviously Callen should have consulted you first as it is widely known that you are a world authority on likely crowd sizes.
200 for the Ghana v Senegal match wasn't it your last prediction.
I think he was a bit closer with his guess on Monday.
So two wrongs make a right then. You really are a ****.
Quite happy to concede the Ghana game crowd but on Bees matters, I looked over the history books and that told me his prediction was an error.
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markbfc said:So two wrongs make a right then. You really are a ****.
Quite happy to concede the Ghana game crowd but on Bees matters, I looked over the history books and that told me his prediction was an error
The usual constructive argument as expected. Still I prefer it when you call me a **** in public instead of in a PM. At least everyone can see how your mind works then.
When you "looked over the history books" were we top of the league on any of the previous occasions?
Paul O'Brien
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"I looked over the history books and that told me his prediction was an error."
Agreed.
Altho' you can't compare like for like, the last four or five Gills home games for us have averaged around 5,500 or so, so 6,500 plus is quite good.
Agreed.
Altho' you can't compare like for like, the last four or five Gills home games for us have averaged around 5,500 or so, so 6,500 plus is quite good.
Edmundo
Whinging pom
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Nonsense. Because a figure of 7500 is expected for a game against our nearest rivals, does not mean that 7500 is required for every game including against northern cloggers on a cold wet Thursday in November.Ace Face said:
Ace Face
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Ed
This is my calculations:
6300 was given to me as a figure which would produce a £150k approx operating loss, however this includes £75k for P Smith and £100k from the Broncos.
So £325,000/11/23 = 1284
6300 + 1284 = 7584
The reason I am worried about the P Smith £75k is because Niemi is still at Soton and fit.
This is my calculations:
6300 was given to me as a figure which would produce a £150k approx operating loss, however this includes £75k for P Smith and £100k from the Broncos.
So £325,000/11/23 = 1284
6300 + 1284 = 7584
The reason I am worried about the P Smith £75k is because Niemi is still at Soton and fit.
rebus
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Ace Face said:
I know these are "fag packet sums" [copyright Ron Noades] but who has told you that £75k has been put in the budget for monies due to the Paul Smith transfer. Is this confirmed? If so, it is also nuts.
Ace Face
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I know it sould like I am being a tw*t but all I can say is that I trust the individual concerned. 
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Banana said:
Well it never should have been anyway. How can you put something in a budget this year, when it is based on appearances that might take a number of years to reach, if at all.
Ace Face
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Banana excellent news that we have managed to re-negotiate players contracts to save £75k. Or has £75k been found stashed in a cupboard smewhere at GP. 
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You tell me. But I'm guessing we simply moved the attendance budget to "Ambitious" - simple this FD business innitAce Face said:Banana excellent news that we have managed to re-negotiate players contracts to save £75k. Or has £75k been found stashed in a cupboard smewhere at GP.
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Ace Face said:Banana excellent news that we have managed to re-negotiate players contracts to save £75k. Or has £75k been found stashed in a cupboard smewhere at GP.
The new Commercial Manager belives it is "easily achievable".
We also have that plum 3rd round away draw at Old Trafford in the FA cup in the budget. rofl
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Banana said:
rofl rofl rofl
Priceless. I imagine that the potential bank lenders are impressed as hell with that.
It's like the Monty Python sketch....."Here is the new news........."
" Hello is that the bank. Oh right er... Brentford Football Club here and we were wondering if we could have our Business Plan back please.......yes that's right the one approved and signed off by the board of directors......no nothing really major but we are tweaking it a bit as we want to be as accurate as possible of course ha ha......er okay then if you insist... very briefly we've taken out the Bronco's income so that's £100k worse off and er unfortunately Niemi made it up with Southampton so we've decided that prudence is the name of the game ha ha and er........we've taken out the net Smith income......yes we know it looks bad but there's the car park income and that will help a lot and er.........look we've got this new Commercial Manager coming on board and who is a whiz kid and will solve all of our problems and sorry what was the question again........oh er right......was the Commercial Manager's salary in the original budget.........erm......look can I get back to you there's a call coming in from Qatar on the other line........."
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Lokster
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I think it is about time someone started taking control of Brentford's budgeting properly. I'm sick to death of people using the word budget when describing Brentford's financing when the phrase "cobbled together figures liable to include income we don't have but hope to get which will change whenever it suits us" is more appropriate.
I don't know who thinks Steve Callen is doing a good job, but I ain't one of 'em.
I don't know who thinks Steve Callen is doing a good job, but I ain't one of 'em.
Brickie Chap
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I cant imagine any serious Bank wanting to deal with the likes of JM and SC. Of course, maybe they are on some sort of bonus from their boss, Altonwood(RON NOADES) for their handling of the BFC business for the last few years :dj:
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Gee Bee said:Well it never should have been anyway. How can you put something in a budget this year, when it is based on appearances that might take a number of years to reach, if at all.
Well quite and my take is that the monies up front from Qatar Airways for a (what was it) three year contract has all been spent in year one. From reading Mr Finch's comments a week or two ago then he is relying on the advance cash for pouring rights from the brewery to dig him out of his present cash flow situation.My guess is that as soon as cash comes in even for services that are to be provided by BFC over an extended period then it just goes straight out.
I am amazed that Altonwood sits still for this....maybe they are not as plugged into the city system as we thought........
Brickie Chap
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As i have stated somewhere else, there are 3 types of budgets, and it is more and more obvious that this is option 3, which cobbles together 1 and 2.
1 is where you set a cautious budget with if's and maybe's taken out, and anything gained is bunce.
This however leaves the spending available short.
2 you set an ambitious budget that adds in the ifs and maybes.
This is done because someone at the top demands a % growth, and ensures there is a team to take on this challenge.
This releases the funds for spending.
3 Mix together 1 and 2, so no one knows whether the budget is ambitious or not, or what ifs and maybes are in it.
This is done to keep someone happy so he doesnt leave.
So no 3 it is then.
Dont put the car park in but put in revenue from a company just gone into receivership.etc etc.
MA has been pledged funds i assume, and he rules the roost, so the bigwigs cobble together a bit of paper with a mixture of ambitious and absurd numbers on. Voila!
Only problem is, once the first two months have gone and there is a dent , there are very little opportunities to get it back.
Ace, have you e-mailed the club for Q&A on the seasons budgeted figure? I suggest you do.
1 is where you set a cautious budget with if's and maybe's taken out, and anything gained is bunce.
This however leaves the spending available short.
2 you set an ambitious budget that adds in the ifs and maybes.
This is done because someone at the top demands a % growth, and ensures there is a team to take on this challenge.
This releases the funds for spending.
3 Mix together 1 and 2, so no one knows whether the budget is ambitious or not, or what ifs and maybes are in it.
This is done to keep someone happy so he doesnt leave.
So no 3 it is then.
Dont put the car park in
but put in revenue from a company just gone into receivership.etc etc.MA has been pledged funds i assume, and he rules the roost, so the bigwigs cobble together a bit of paper with a mixture of ambitious and absurd numbers on. Voila!
Only problem is, once the first two months have gone and there is a dent , there are very little opportunities to get it back.
Ace, have you e-mailed the club for Q&A on the seasons budgeted figure? I suggest you do.