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wanderer paul
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I was asking why you said the month of July. Now I know. You actually mean "in the 12 months ending 31 July 2015".
Re Tweets, yes, and, of course the GPG is correct
Was this the FFP fine for their accounts for the previous season then 2013/14? Or were the half year accounts, August 2014 to December 2014, the reason why they were fined, and paid it in July 2015?
A lot of this confuses the hell out of me! No wonder people have no idea how it all works.
wanderer paul
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True. Maybe they will appeal then? But I doubt it. Losing 10% of your first years PL revenue cannot hurt that much? Although, their wage bill was huge https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/06632170/filing-history
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Was this the FFP fine for their accounts for the previous season then 2013/14? Or were the half year accounts, August 2014 to December 2014, the reason why they were fined, and paid it in July 2015?
A lot of this confuses the hell out of me! No wonder people have no idea how it all works.
2013/14: Loss £10.3m. Maximum permissible loss is £6m. So that is £3.7m in excess.
Fine:
- 1% of the excess amount between £1 and £100,000
- 20% of the excess amount between £100,001 and £500,000
- 40% of the excess amount between £500,001 and £1,000,000
- 60% of the excess amount between £1,000,001 and £5,000,000
I make that a £1.9m fine for 2013/14
wanderer paul
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The other £5.7m? For accounts up to December 2014? Don't Championship Clubs have to supply their half year accounts for inspection in December?
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Whoops.
Yes that gets one to a fine of £6.9m, still not close. Plus there would have been some "exempt" spend for things like the Academy. So not all the losses in the accounts would be subject to a FFP fine.
So I still think this is for 2014/15.
Clubs submit the previous season's accounts to the League in December. See above.
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More information here:- http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36189779
The fine was for 2014-15 apparently. I really didn't realise how much Bournemouth had spent to get promotion. A quite staggering sum.
The fine was for 2014-15 apparently. I really didn't realise how much Bournemouth had spent to get promotion. A quite staggering sum.
wanderer paul
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Brown envelope's, allegedly. :shrug:
Otherwise, sod all! I think the FL are still going through their accounts to see what the hell happened and how much the owner pumped in and what's been written off!
Herbert
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so one way to look at it is they cheated their way to promotion at our expense...
Les Beeavinu
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Does anyone know how much more money Championship clubs will get as part of the new Sky deal?
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If Brentford took the FFP risk, and it all came tumbling down and the risk did not work, the vast majority of bees fans and the wider football world would be up in arms about another tale of mismanagement and another owner gambling on the future of a club.
I would happily take an established and competitive championship club, with better facilities, who can buy and sell players freely for the foreseeable future, rather than gamble it all on maybe going up one year.
Just think, we could break the bank on 3, 4 or 5 players this summer. 2 of them could get injured for the season, 1 of them could not settle in, etc etc etc - the only time the FFP gamble made any remote sense was January 2015 when we thought about it with regards to signing another striker, and even then it would of been a huge risk...
I personally would make the FFP sanctions tougher and they need to have a more immediate impact, to stop the debate on whether a club should abide by financial fair play or not, as if it is even a choice.
This is not the current reality however... and the truth is with the prize of the premier league now even more financially rewarding than ever, the unfairness of parachute payments and the light touch of FFP penalties within that context - I think we will see more and more clubs "going for it".
I would happily take an established and competitive championship club, with better facilities, who can buy and sell players freely for the foreseeable future, rather than gamble it all on maybe going up one year.
Just think, we could break the bank on 3, 4 or 5 players this summer. 2 of them could get injured for the season, 1 of them could not settle in, etc etc etc - the only time the FFP gamble made any remote sense was January 2015 when we thought about it with regards to signing another striker, and even then it would of been a huge risk...
I personally would make the FFP sanctions tougher and they need to have a more immediate impact, to stop the debate on whether a club should abide by financial fair play or not, as if it is even a choice.
This is not the current reality however... and the truth is with the prize of the premier league now even more financially rewarding than ever, the unfairness of parachute payments and the light touch of FFP penalties within that context - I think we will see more and more clubs "going for it".
hobbsy
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I don't think much more, according to feedback from FSF meetings when the Premier League asked the Football League about how much money they currently get the response was "our clubs are very happy thank you"
Les Beeavinu
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I don't think much more, according to feedback from FSF meetings when the Premier League asked the Football League about how much money they currently get the response was "our clubs are very happy thank you"
Found this;
which might suggest that the so called solidarity payments for clubs like us in the championship could rise to £3.9m.
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Totally agree and if we "Did a Bournemouth" I'd like to think we would get credit for doing it the right way. However it seems QPR, Muff and Leicester got promoted by breaking the rules and the relative paltry fine ( compared to the riches on offer) does seem meaningless. If FFP is going to mean anything then the league are going to have to get tougher and maybe look at things like points deduction which could be applied if these clubs get relegated back down.
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Good for Muff in paying up.
Shame on QPeeHa and Leicester for not doing the honourable thing and settling their debt.
Shame on QPeeHa and Leicester for not doing the honourable thing and settling their debt.
hobbsy
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Or FFP needs to be enforced by The FA to cover all leagues, won't happen though as The FA are spineless, weak and wouldn't take on the Premier League
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Oops. They might regret loaning him out now although they have other cover of course.
GP200
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GP200
Voice of the mysterons...
GP200
Voice of the mysterons...
Delbee
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GP200
Voice of the mysterons...
Brentford Bob
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I think they'll be ok. Southampton are the ones to watch... in dreadful league form at the moment and dropping like a stone.....
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Should be but conceded 31 in 12 doesn't bode well. With Wilson now out and no new keeper in transfer window I'm not sure they will get many more than 36 points
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Probably need 12 points from 14 games. Sounds easy but they are on a drastic slide and amazed they didn't strength the back four.
Delbee
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Howe did try to get the Chelsea lad Ake back and Chelsea's second string goalkeeper but failed. Will the locals start to get on his back? maybe but doubt it
hanworthbee
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Tyrone mings banned for 5 games for stamping on Ibrahimovic ....not like the fa to bring a sledgehammer down on the small teams....I've seen the incident a few times and can't be certain it wasn't an accident.
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Don't think the stamp was intentional, although, IMHO the elbow from Ibrahimovich was.
aawharris
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I think thats my issue.
The "stamp" has a lot of uncertainty as to whether it was intentional, however the elbow was clear as day that it was meant.
Mark H
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The people I talk to still love him and realise how good he is. They have a tough run in but that draw should boast the confidence.
Alan D
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Howe is still very much a hero down here. The only grumbles I hear are that he didn't really address their obvious weakness from their first season and that was the defence. IMO thats a justified moan and it could cost them dearly. Somehow I think that they will survive, but it may well get a bit hairy.
Isleworth_Bee
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IMO he could have cleared ZI very easily...................... Had a quick look when he turned before the hurdle.
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@SwissRamble doing his usual forensic job on football club accounts, this time Bournemouth.
Revenue in 2018 more than 10x their last season in the Championship, with wages rising from £30m then to £102m now. Talk about different world
Revenue in 2018 more than 10x their last season in the Championship, with wages rising from £30m then to £102m now. Talk about different world
Delbee
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Friend of mine down there is Bees fan and. Bournemouth Season Ticket Holder with close links to Howe is very pleased with Mepham performance and says that they got him cheaply at around £20 mil
Isleworth_Bee
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They are in big big trouble.
Dont underestimate how much cash they have spent. I have little sympathy.
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Not Won a game this season when losing at half time. Having watched the game today I really cannot see them surviving this season. Eddie Howe seems to have the same issue as Warburton, we need to play plan A better!!
Not advocating any major changes but perhaps from time to time they could play it long, the playing around the back has cost them one goal today and they need to induce some urgency into their game to put Watford on the back foot and also lift their crowd who sound as noisy as a Grannys convention!!