Andy Frampton v Paddock
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Brentford Bob
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And the reaction at the start of a game approximately one year ago - how things change.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdOiVFAdrUY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdOiVFAdrUY
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i know where my pride was, it was in my hand at that time of the evening..
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ineedtherapbee
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Players turning on fans reminds me of Rocky 4 when Dolph attacked his trainer and the Russians then cheered on Rocky.
I hope no one has converted to Doncaster after that!
Probably would not have beaten Doncaster Belles with that performance.
I hope no one has converted to Doncaster after that!
Probably would not have beaten Doncaster Belles with that performance.
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You can look at the "at least he cares" argument both ways and i can sympathise with both to an extent. But the blatant concern there is that one of the players that we were so desparate to keep hold of only a matter of weeks ago and therefore who you'd expect to be one of those threads that can knit some unity (which is what we desperately need to get us back on our feet) back amongst those on the pitch & those off it has been subjected to a level of criticism (that he may or may not have deserved) & reacted in that way.
It'll be very important how he responds now (both in his head and publicly) in the cold light of today - this kind of incident involving someone pivotal is IMO capable of being massive even if its from Frampton saying "Boss, ffs, show us some f-in passion"
It'll be very important how he responds now (both in his head and publicly) in the cold light of today - this kind of incident involving someone pivotal is IMO capable of being massive even if its from Frampton saying "Boss, ffs, show us some f-in passion"
Brentford Bob
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Word has reached me that Frampton told the rest of the players not to clap the paddock today?
Anyone care to elaborate?
Anyone care to elaborate?
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Rubbish, it was Framo who kept the players in the centre circle until the other players and staff had gone and took them over to New Road, then the Paddock and then Ealing Road to clap the fans. He was geed up through the match and after and as Kev O is captain, he should be ashamed to let his Vice Captain take the lead and do this. There were 7 players left on the field altogether with Framo and I think if it hadn't been for him, then all the players would have left the field without clapping. The team didnt play that badly and it was the tossers in the paddock and Ealing Road that should be ashamed of their behaviour with hand gestures and aggression towards the players. Notice that the fans in the forecourt protest didn't do the same and clapped and cheered the players as they left, as the scoreline flattered Crewe.
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..................probably about as much credence to this story as for the "O'Connor to Liverpool for £1million" story..............sorry, article......lol
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Frampton was definately up for fronting any abuse from the paddock today. Not a problem for me.
I told them what I thought of them and if they want to give some back so be it. However if I was one of them I would be to ashamed at one gutless performance after another.
I think the players have got off very lightly. How many of us would have been sacked from our jobs if we were useless.
I told them what I thought of them and if they want to give some back so be it. However if I was one of them I would be to ashamed at one gutless performance after another.
I think the players have got off very lightly. How many of us would have been sacked from our jobs if we were useless.
Thorne In The Side
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Frampton was clearly trying to indicate to several players to blank the Braemar...........like it or not, that is fact.
I can tolerate most things but his reaction was ****ing disgraceful......and to think that my £20 went towards part of his wages makes me feel physically sick.
I can tolerate most things but his reaction was ****ing disgraceful......and to think that my £20 went towards part of his wages makes me feel physically sick.
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It wouldn't bother me if I never saw this charade of "clapping the fans" again, so long as the players give us some proper performances during the 90 minutes.
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Datchetbee
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Yep, same feelings, I clearly also saw...whats he playing at!?
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Has anyone ever told Frampton where his wages come from? Disgraceful attitude IMHO.
Brentford Bob
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I think he did his best to ensure the players recognised the fans' support on all sides of the ground. They can't win with the GPG. If they had walked off heads down they would have got slated. When they do clap the fans they get slated. Looks like some have decided that Frampton has an attitude problem and anything he does from now on will be seen in that light. IMHO that would be a mistake. He is one of our own, I'm proud he wears our shirt and yesterday he gave nothing less than 100% for the cause.
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Ealing Road???? There's nobody in Ealing Road.
Brain-dead Bee
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I thought Frampton was the one who made the players acknowledge the fans, and didn't notice him getting them to blank the paddock.
O'Connor has to be stripped of the captaincy when a new manager comes in. Not sure who deserves it - in terms of experience and vocal effort, probably Heywood, though I don't particularly rate him. Yesterday we fell apart after the 2nd goal and at no point did Kev try to gee players up,either with encouragement or a b*ll*cking. Few others did; Frampton once gave some encouragement to Charles, but other than that, he and Griffiths were likke deaf mutes who had never played together before
O'Connor has to be stripped of the captaincy when a new manager comes in. Not sure who deserves it - in terms of experience and vocal effort, probably Heywood, though I don't particularly rate him. Yesterday we fell apart after the 2nd goal and at no point did Kev try to gee players up,either with encouragement or a b*ll*cking. Few others did; Frampton once gave some encouragement to Charles, but other than that, he and Griffiths were likke deaf mutes who had never played together before
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IMO I'd have much rather the players trudged off heads bowed rather than swan around the pitch like they won the game. The 2nd half performance was pathetic. And the players who 'milked' some of the crowds applause should be ashamed of themselves. They are paid to play for the manager whoever it may be, and they didn't do that yesterday
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Agreed. Their performance had just cost a man his livelihood, yet while Leroy walked off the pitch alone flanked by stewards and old bill, they saw it fit to wander round the pitch like heroes.
Those who clapped them are idiots. And speaking of which, the usual suspects in the Brook Road plunged to new depths yesterday. They obviously did not understand the irony of cheering every Crewe touch one minute and then singing "loyal supporters" the next.
I will support the players as much as the next man, but some of them need to take a long hard look at themselves and that includes Frampton. It's been clear for a while that Rosenoir's not been up to the job, but that lot have done him no favours at all.
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I've always said that I support the badge and not neccesairly those that represent it.
Vice Captian my arse - the best thing Fitz can do is to niminate one CAPTAIN and scrap any other falsefied title just to keep certain immature babies from throwing their toys out the pram.
What ever next, vice vice captain for Nelson other wise he'll invent another injury the next time he's dropped.
I hope that Fitz has witnessed everything that has gone on over the past 8 weeks and when he gets the squad where he wants it to be he ships out all those that will equally stab him in the back when the going gets tough.
Vice Captian my arse - the best thing Fitz can do is to niminate one CAPTAIN and scrap any other falsefied title just to keep certain immature babies from throwing their toys out the pram.
What ever next, vice vice captain for Nelson other wise he'll invent another injury the next time he's dropped.
I hope that Fitz has witnessed everything that has gone on over the past 8 weeks and when he gets the squad where he wants it to be he ships out all those that will equally stab him in the back when the going gets tough.
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Andy Frampton lead the applause of New Road and then Breamar Road yesterday. When he saw a number of 'supporters' giving hand gestures, he stopped clapping and turned to another player and pointed it out.
He worked hard yesterday and is an important player at the club. A number of fans in the paddock behaved disgracefully and should be ashamed of themselves.
He worked hard yesterday and is an important player at the club. A number of fans in the paddock behaved disgracefully and should be ashamed of themselves.
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Who the hell are you to be calling me an idiot. I clapped the players to show my recognition of the passion and effort shown compared with the previous few weeks.
And like many others have said, whilst it obviously right for him to go, on a personal level I felt desperately sorry for Leroy standing completely on his own in front of the dugout listening to all the chants for his sacking. It is a dreadful experience knowing that while you have done your best and put heart and soul into a job for whatever reason it all goes wrong.
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Thorne In The Side
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I kept my hands in my pocket and kept my mouth shut......then Frampton decides to bite the hand that feeds.
Not that he's bothered but all those Frampton pictures in my boys bedroom are no longer and the autograph books now have a page missing.
How childish? Very much so but that's life.....he can **** himself.
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I wasn't at the game. After last weekends debacle I just couldn't stomach it.
It gave me no pleasure to receive the four texts Ricko sent me during the afternoon.
But why are people on here defending the players who basically were parading at the end clapping the fans for a performanace that has ultimately cost an honest man his job?
And if Frampton behaved as some have reported, I will take a personal crusade to hound that C*** out of my club, who does Charlie Big Bollox think he is?
Frampton you are an average player who deserves nothing more than what you currently have at the moment pal...
It gave me no pleasure to receive the four texts Ricko sent me during the afternoon.
But why are people on here defending the players who basically were parading at the end clapping the fans for a performanace that has ultimately cost an honest man his job?
And if Frampton behaved as some have reported, I will take a personal crusade to hound that C*** out of my club, who does Charlie Big Bollox think he is?
Frampton you are an average player who deserves nothing more than what you currently have at the moment pal...
Mads Bee
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lol Ooh showing my age there, the home stand will always be Ealing Road to me !! lol
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Datchetbee
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PASSION..? You can't being serious, they were O.K first half, nothing more nothing less, and we were still 1-0 down! And if you think think a certain John Mousinho running round the pitch like a headless chicken and Framps making a few challenges is passion, your mistaken, how you clapped that TEAM after that second half performance is beyond belief. It's just not good enough. Like lost boys out there, and I can gaurentee you after that second goal went in, there wasn't 100% effort from some of em out there, and anything less than that is not acceptable.
WTF is going on? I can't believe the players have got off from this so lightly, and the paddock are being described as disgracefull? What did they do? They were a disgrace as a team yesterday and they desereved everything they got... and even that wern't enough. People who sit next to me know that throughout that 90 minutes I will sit there and try to encourage as much as I can, and I will always wait and applaud till the very last player is in the tunnel, but how can I physically stand there and applaud the TEAM after witnessing that performance?!
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So Frampton is ridiculed for clapping the fans and then not clapping the Paddock. lol Can't win can he? Passions running high - I suggest a clean slate from here and see where it takes us. In-fighting will only drag us further down. Plus you're wrong about Frampton - he's a good player and the sort who we will need at his best in the coming months.
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How do you come to that conclusion? It was tamer than last week and our players deserve stick - they got off lightly. They are bottlers and have contributed directly to a decent man losing his job.
Yes the buck stops with the manager and obviously he had to go, but the cowards in our team have been a disgrace to our football club and should be told so when it is justified. Why the hell should we give them applause - IMHO they were taking the pi$$ out of the fans at the end of the game (and taking the pi$$ out of Leroy in the 2nd half)
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How badly can The Paddock have misbehaved when most werent even there lol
Edmundo
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My take on it was that the players were applauding us for putting up with what we'd just seen. There was no air of celebration about it whatsoever. And if some idiot in the Paddock (or anywhere) does a ****er sign at Framps, then it's fine by me if Framps gets the arse about it. As has been said, there was no deliberate attempt to ignore the Paddock.
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Paul Roberts...too many years ago...some players need a little reminder...
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Framps squirted drink at Brook Road and the paddock then threw part and all of his drink bottle into the empty part of the paddock.
Ace Face
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I think the best thing the players can do now is issue a squad press release aplogising for the teams performances this season.
This will hopefully draw a line under Framptons madness and we can all get on to the next BFC crisis.
However pathetic Frampton is, we have to rise above him and support the teams relegation fight.
This will hopefully draw a line under Framptons madness and we can all get on to the next BFC crisis.
However pathetic Frampton is, we have to rise above him and support the teams relegation fight.
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Frampton was the only one out there yesterday who showed any sort of passion apart from Moore . . hes just as frustrated as any of us at the teams performances this season and its not his fault the whole of last years side have been replaced and hes been left with a bunch of crap thats come in.
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Datchetbee
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Fair Comment, but it doesn't excuse his after game antics does it!
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What did he actually do wrong?! Throw his water down or aim it towards the paddock from about 250 yards away? The paddock being all hard and that shouldn't really feel threatened by this should they? Perhaps the water was thrown because his side which hes given everything too over the last 4 years hasn't won for 16 games and lost 4-0 yesterday. Yesterday we lost because we've got poor quality players not that we gave no effort.
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