Another Noades Interview

Another Noades Interview

.........but it's not just Rogers Mr Brickie Chap and that's another story to be told.

Does anyone know of a professional investigative journalist who could look into this. :idea:

To avoid compromising his ongoing investigations I cannot reveal his name but here on the Grapevine we already have a very experienced scribe with a well earned reputation over the years for his hard hitting fearless exposes of wrongdoing (who can forget when he went underground to get the dirt on the Aldershot drains scandal).

I have already suggested at least three times on GPG that he writes a book blowing the lid off how BFC has been exploited and raped over the last twelve years or so.

I have no doubt that as we speak he is doing his meticulous research and we will be hearing from him in the near future and the subsequent revelations will force Noades' stooges on the Board to resign in a cloud of ignomy.
 

Another Noades Interview

Plear, please, please can we start getting the real story out into the press.

I am sick of hearing Noades one-eyed views casting our club in this bad light. If the club or BU won't do it, perhaps the journos who read the GPG can do some investigations.

Why should our fans have to put up with being slaggrd off constantly?
 

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think how many hounded Ferguson at MU before he won that FA cup in '89

Pedant. Liverpool won the cup in 89. ;) :)

Noades re-writes history the Signy way. :rolleyes:
 

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a classic post if ever there was !

To avoid compromising his ongoing investigations I cannot reveal his name but here on the Grapevine we already have a very experienced scribe with a well earned reputation over the years for his hard hitting fearless exposes of wrongdoing (who can forget when he went underground to get the dirt on the Aldershot drains scandal).

I have already suggested at least three times on GPG that he writes a book blowing the lid off how BFC has been exploited and raped over the last twelve years or so.

I have no doubt that as we speak he is doing his meticulous research and we will be hearing from him in the near future and the subsequent revelations will force Noades' stooges on the Board to resign in a cloud of ignomy.

lol rofl brilliant post rofl lol :sorted:
 

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With all this spare time on his hands, perhaps he can concentrate on his fictional writing. The amount of practice he has had, he should have a best seller on his hands.

As for the sale of Campbell costing us promotion, that is utter b***ocks. It was Martin Allens lack of tactical awareness that cost us promotion and concedeing last minute goals on too many ocassions.
 

Another Noades Interview

To avoid compromising his ongoing investigations I cannot reveal his name but here on the Grapevine we already have a very experienced scribe with a well earned reputation over the years for his hard hitting fearless exposes of wrongdoing (who can forget when he went underground to get the dirt on the Aldershot drains scandal).

I have already suggested at least three times on GPG that he writes a book blowing the lid off how BFC has been exploited and raped over the last twelve years or so.

I have no doubt that as we speak he is doing his meticulous research and we will be hearing from him in the near future and the subsequent revelations will force Noades' stooges on the Board to resign in a cloud of ignomy.

Come on down Larry....
 

Another Noades Interview

l Wasting time trying to move to Lionel Road, as it is unsuitable.

"A group of no more than 200 Brentford fans shouted abuse at us and some tried to force their way into the boardroom.

"My intention was to move to Woking on a short-term basis to force the council to finally help us, ."

"Lionel Road is not a suitable site - it is right next to Kew Bridge and the traffic problems would be unacceptable.

Before I kick off, re his comments about Dave Bassett, if he is that good why is the plum sitting on his arse at Sky Sports and not in a dugout on a Saturday afternoon...

Anyway back to his drivel...Lionel Road must be good...the penny has dropped now...grubby fingered businessmen use club to lever out current owners and will then mount their own bid for the land...leaving the club to have forked out all the feasibility studies...which they have seen because they are on the planning groups...since when is being near a bridge (a vital communication link) a bad thing...oh poor businessman plays piss poor politics now...alles klar now

Hounded out by less than 200 people...to use a Bananaism...c'mon be a man!

Finally re Woking....good to see he had more faith in Hounslow Borough than Merton Borough...even though he did say that Hounslow were messing him about with sites...not the best judgement in the world is it

Mr Noades you are sussed by a worker in the public sector...be ashamed lol
 

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so what we need now is a nice statement telling the world what Noades really is.... :fishing:


whoever does it gets my vote in the BU (re-) elections...

Ahem... Stedders for president!

FORMER Brentford chairman Ron Noades has drawn criticism from the club’s independent supporters group BIAS following his interview in the last week’s Chronicle.
In the article, Noades said he does not understand why he is disliked by Brentford fans, despite taking over a club which broke even and leaving it with a £4.1million overdraft.
He claimed the overdraft should not be seen as debt, but offered no solution to clearing it when his own gambles had failed to pay off under his tenure.
Noades recently had his remaining loans to the club bought out by supporter Matthew Benham.
BIAS teamed up with Paul Stedman, who was their chairman during Noades’ reign at the club, to respond to the article, and Stedman said it was reminder of ‘the true architect of the club’s ills’.
He said: “Bees United continues to grapple with the debt mountain bequeathed to them, but those of us who crossed swords with Noades are familiar with his line of argument.
“Everything is the fault of someone else – players, coaches, local councillors, supporters, but never the person who oversaw a period of reckless expenditure which threatens the future of the club today.
“Noades dismissed the overdraft he bequeathed to BU, happily content that his guarantees would make everything right – ignoring the fact that the club was being saddled with interest charges of close to £250k.
“Overdraft may not be a debt in his book, but in any language it’s expenditure far exceeding income, with no prospect of remedying the situation.”
Stedman added: “He wishes us to be grateful for selling the club to BU for £1, and claims he never took a penny out the club – overlooking the decent salary he drew as team manager while employing three top coaches.
“Noades also restructured the club in such a way that he was able to write off its losses against those he was making at his other businesses. In selling the club for £1, he also passes on a perilous financial situation and rid himself of a very heavy responsibility.
“If he is looking for a suitable legacy of his tenure at Griffin Park, then it can be found with supporters rattling buckets to collect spare change on matchdays.”
Meanwhile, Bees United said its message is to move on from the past and focus efforts on the daunting task ahead.
It reminded supporters that Brentford’s financial position, like many clubs at its level, is difficult, and it will be hard to compete until a move to a modern new stadium.
Chairman Brian Burgess said: “Everyone will have their own personal view on the history of Mr Noades’ involvement.
“Bees United came into being because of the mounting debt and growing uncertainty over the club’s future and now has the opportunity to improve the finances of the club.
“All our energies must be used to deal with the present situation and prepare for a better future.
“Debts of over £7 million are still there. But the generosity of Matthew Benham has given us a big boost by reducing the interest that the club has to pay on its debts by over £150k per year for the next five years.
“We now need to find another £500k per year to afford a reasonable playing budget. We cannot change the past and we don’t have time to dwell on it. This is an opportunity we must not miss.”
 

Another Noades Interview

Can you confirm whether Stedders letter is an official response or a letter from an irate fan (who might therefore get passed off as a fruitcake)?
 

Another Noades Interview

Can you confirm whether Stedders letter is an official response or a letter from an irate fan (who might therefore get passed off as a fruitcake)?


Sadly nobody is going to listen to us. Love him or loathe him but that c*nt Noades has a name that will make people listen.:sad: If you then add on the fact that alot of Bees fans are dumbfeckers anyway it is a recipe for bad cake I'm afraid. I base this remark on talking to fans on home or away jaunts who haven't got a fecking clue as to what went on and what is going on.
This site has been the most educational on the Noades legacy and we are all converted apart from one who was chosen from God. I agree that we need something out in the open but who really cares, apart from us?
 

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Greg Dyke's a media babe. They'd listen to him.
 

Another Noades Interview

Can you confirm whether Stedders letter is an official response or a letter from an irate fan (who might therefore get passed off as a fruitcake)?

It is an official BIAS response. Stedders just did all the work :D
 

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Can someone please inform these people that he stopped coming to games whilst still the manager,leaving his coach in charge for 4 or 5 games because he was out "scouting".

No wonder the players gave up and eventually lost to Kingstonian if the ****ing manager can't be bothered.

Die you c unt.
 

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Can someone please inform these people that he stopped coming to games whilst still the manager,leaving his coach in charge for 4 or 5 games because he was out "scouting".

No wonder the players gave up and eventually lost to Kingstonian if the ****ing manager can't be bothered.

Die you c unt.

I forget, what was the attendance against Gillingham at the end of our record shattering undefeated run?
 

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We've got more important issues to worry about than noades.


For the 1st time ever im with BU on this one.
 

Another Noades Interview

We've got more important issues to worry about than noades.


For the 1st time ever im with BU on this one.

Yeah to right Colin, like where are we going to find 7.5mill. Only thing is i cannot forget that **** nearly (HAS) broke our football club.
 

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"One thing is for sure - I won't be going to any more matches at Griffin Park."

Fits nicely with the last paragraph of this blog

http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/sport/2007/01/31/could_selhurst_park_be_sold_fo.html

and I quote..."He (Noades) always says he retains a soft spot for Palace and would love to be invited to serve the club in some capacity."

Remember Capone was done for tax evasion...Noades can be done too (not for what he has done to us, but by his desire to be respected)...he is a bully and lacks finesse...achilles watch your heel
 

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"What upsets me about all the flak is I could have kept the freehold of the club and made a fortune on it."

This is the quote that should be circulated around the higher footballing fraternity to which Noades once courted and whored himself too...a chairman more interested in the land than the club..."I could have kept the freehold"...you could have done many things...many, many things...to paraphrase Dennis, what you have done is open your mouth and remove all doubt!
 

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We've got more important issues to worry about than noades.


For the 1st time ever im with BU on this one.

Possibly but remember that we were told that neither the Bees United board nor the BFC board nor any individual directors of those boards could comment negatively on Noades and his erm......management of BFC under the terms agreed between Noades and the BU representatives who negotiated the take-over back in January 2006. That told you all that you needed to know about the way that Noades ran the club if he was apprehensive that criticisms could/would be made.

The impression given was that BU would love to let rip but were precluded from so doing. Well Noades has been taken out now and has given two interviews with his worldly wise comments on how Brentford FC is currently being run and all of the mistakes that the new owners have made including the appointment of Rosenior against Noades own advice. The response from Brian Burgess is the usual refuge of "It's in the past and we don't have time to dwell on it". That rather simplistic view of course covers everything from Crispgate to the hopeless mess that the books were in under Noades to anything that happened last week. In the same breath Brian Burgess advises us that to maintain a reasonable playing budget for next season a further £500k (effectively in cash) has to be found and this after Matthew Benham threw them a lifeline by enabling the business to save £150kpa in interest charges. It all seems rather a long way from the Bees United that set out its stall on the basis of running the club to break even before interest does it not.

Anyway you lot all jog on and worry about the more important issues.......our current problems such as having to find another £500k just to put out a half way reasonable squad next season all effectively stem from Noades and I am never ever gonna forget that nor the part that Rogers and Herting played in it. Bees fans have raised something like £5million in new monies in the past two years (£4million from Matthew Benham alone) and almost every penny of this has gone to repay Altonwood and sort out Noades mess. Think where we could be now if that £5million was available to drive the club forward rather than staggering to exist on a day to day basis. As I have said Noades is now pumping out his version which of course will become the truth in short order. Amazing is it not that Noades negotiates his January 2006 deal with a commitment from Bees United that if they dare to criticise him then the loans have to be repaid immediately but when we finally pay him off in full one year later we seemingly don't bother to include any covenants to the effect that Noades will not comment on Bees United's running of the club since March 2003. Noades of course is suggesting that the BFC debt/liabilities have doubled since March 2003. That is nonsense and goes back to Noades line that he left "only" an overdraft of £4.1million at that time. He never compares like with like and the comparable figure in March 2003 to todays overall debt plus net current liabilities was £7million as I have posted on the GPG many times in the past......and before you start Mr Signy that is a "true fact".
 
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This makes me really really really really mad :mad2:

I could handle watching a team bottom of the league all season, despite it being filled with people that weren't fit to wear the shirt (up until Jan) :(

I can handle having the p5ss taken out of my daily by other people, just for being a bees fan, i couldn't care less. This has become the norm for the last 15 years and i'm proud to be a bee. :shrug:

I can handle the fact we we will (if we're honest) probably never see Premiershite football at Griffin Park (or new stadium). Not a problem for me :shrug:

I can handle the fact that the team ALWAYS seem to let you down on the big occassion (call it bad luck if you like), i've lost count of the amount of times this has happened since 1991 and we've had our hearts broken :sad:

I can handle any of that, it's part of a bee bring it on!

But what really really really gets my goat is this complete cretin is allowed to get away with things like this time after time! Ok, he had a gagging order over us (shows the true character of the weasal) doesn't it. :mad:

BUT - he doesn't anymore, why the ****ing hell is he allowed to get away with this?? Why isn't anyone telling our side of the story and sticking up for us to show him for what he really is??? :wave: :scratch:

It makes me soooo fecking angry, it's in the past my ****ing arse. Makes me wonder why i bother at times it really does!! :mad:

Is it too much for Bees United, (or anyone with clout) just to say "oi no, you're talking bollox you silver fecking cretin, this is what really happened" :mad2:

Thsi isn't aimed at anyone but i couldn't hold back anymore.

Pardon my french.
 

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Superb post sgaz.Time for B.U. to speak in public on behalf of the fans who elected them.
 

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Possibly but remember that we were told that neither the Bees United board nor the BFC board nor any individual directors of those boards could comment negatively on Noades and his erm......management of BFC under the terms agreed between Noades and the BU representatives who negotiated the take-over back in January 2006. That told you all that you needed to know about the way that Noades ran the club if he was apprehensive that criticisms could/would be made.

The impression given was that BU would love to let rip but were precluded from so doing. Well Noades has been taken out now and has given two interviews with his worldly wise comments on how Brentford FC is currently being run and all of the mistakes that the new owners have made including the appointment of Rosenior against Noades own advice. The response from Brian Burgess is the usual refuge of "It's in the past and we don't have time to dwell on it".

My concern has been that Bees United, which exists to try and safeguard the future of the club, has been used primarily, by Noades, to allow himself as clean a getaway as possible. He has accidentally (I would assume) been aided to do this by those making decisions within the organisation.

BUs silence, which it also appears has been negotiated by Noades, will aid his long term legacy in football and will suggest to thousands of Brentford fans that the organisation is keeping schtum because they have no counter argument to what has been put forward by Uncle Ron.

The organisation has been weakened by Noades from its very inception and it seems that even when he has gone he is still able to maintain an unhealthy grip.
 

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This makes me really really really really mad :mad2:

I could handle watching a team bottom of the league all season, despite it being filled with people that weren't fit to wear the shirt (up until Jan) :(

I can handle having the p5ss taken out of my daily by other people, just for being a bees fan, i couldn't care less. This has become the norm for the last 15 years and i'm proud to be a bee. :shrug:

I can handle the fact we we will (if we're honest) probably never see Premiershite football at Griffin Park (or new stadium). Not a problem for me :shrug:

I can handle the fact that the team ALWAYS seem to let you down on the big occassion (call it bad luck if you like), i've lost count of the amount of times this has happened since 1991 and we've had our hearts broken :sad:

I can handle any of that, it's part of a bee bring it on!

But what really really really gets my goat is this complete cretin is allowed to get away with things like this time after time! Ok, he had a gagging order over us (shows the true character of the weasal) doesn't it. :mad:

BUT - he doesn't anymore, why the ****ing hell is he allowed to get away with this?? Why isn't anyone telling our side of the story and sticking up for us to show him for what he really is??? :wave: :scratch:

It makes me soooo fecking angry, it's in the past my ****ing arse. Makes me wonder why i bother at times it really does!! :mad:

Is it too much for Bees United, (or anyone with clout) just to say "oi no, you're talking bollox you silver fecking cretin, this is what really happened" :mad2:

Thsi isn't aimed at anyone but i couldn't hold back anymore.

Pardon my french.
Great post
 

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"And, if I hadn't quit as manager, I believe I could have taken Brentford to promotion again into the Championship.

some figures from 1999/2000

46 - 8 - 6- 9 - 27 - 31 - 5 - 7 - 11 - 20 - 30 - 52 - -14

another figure from 1999/2000

17th,

promotion form indeed lol ...still at least he had them flooding in the gates the following year...rofl

some figures from 2000/2001

5036
5434
4699
5495
4210
4479
3595
4007
4544

some figures from 2006/2007

6048
5709
5471
5392
6272
5770
6740
5759
4771


facts dont lie...only revisionists

onwards and upwards
 

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B.U. just don't seem to get it.If they want to engage the fans there has got to be more than asking us to put our hands in our pockets and voting in the odd election.The board soon listens when things on the pitch are so dire that a few people go round to Braemar Road afterwards and get a bit uppity.As our representatives let's hear "our" views and concerns expressed in public.Noades left us in the sh*te,we'd like to see the back of Rogers and we'd like the stewarding improved 'cos it's our club now allegedly.Cheers.
 

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Th article was re-produced in the Football paper under some very big headlines. It might be an idea for Stedders letter to also be sent to them.

:fishing:
 

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Why is Noades bothering with all this? WTF does he care if a few hundred bees fans hate him? What is he up to these days?
 

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Why is Noades bothering with all this? WTF does he care if a few hundred bees fans hate him? What is he up to these days?

He's not bothered, thats why he is defending himself, when he has done nothing wrong;)

Strange how raises his head above the parapet, as he rides of into the sunset with another big wad of someonelses cash in his back pocket. :fishing:
 
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