Away Registration

[northantsbee]

After some feedback please.....

Apparently there is some dfficulty in administering the away registration for ticket priority. As i have stated elsewhere, whilst i understand that some prioirities need to be set i am still unconvinced that season ticket holders should come before those that travel away regularly when it comes to the 'big' games. Under the customer charter it would be doubtful that i would have got to the Southampton game, even though i missed in total only 8 games last season, includng ne horrendous trek from Northampton down to GP, and then all the way up to Hartlepool for the Tuesday night game!!

Would anyone other than me and one or two others i have spoken to be interested in an away ticket voucher system?

It would work along the following lines...... at the start of the season you could purchase a book of vouchers either 5 or 10 for £30 or £55 respectively

Each time a voucher is used to purchase a ticket you would receive £5 off the cost of said ticket. Therefore when it comes to the game of the season such as Southampton away last year all those who hold away ticket vouchers would have first refusal. Then we can move onto the order on the customer charter. The away season ticket would end up costing a fiver (just to cover any costs)...

It may be a terrible idea in which case i apologise..... but it seems to make sense to someone like me who doesnt have a season ticket but travels home and away to a majority of games.

 

[The Joker]

Apparently there is some dfficulty in administering the away registration for ticket priority.

Is that because the project manager has resigned?

 

[Luton Bee]

includng ne horrendous trek from Northampton down to GP, and then all the way up to Hartlepool for the Tuesday night game!!

I know you are a girlie NB but you don't have to go via Brentford when travelling from Northampton to Hartlepool!

 

[West Ealing Bee]

Their new plan is better than the old one but IMHO the have already missed the boat.

Port Vale, Cheltenham and Barnsley were the true test of loyalty IMHO.

Anyone who goes from London to Port Vale when the game is on tv should be at the front of every queue.

The second half of the season contains more attractive fixtures and more local fixtures.

This isn't going to work........

northants bee's idea may be a possibility but by the time the loyal away fans have been f.ucked over at Bournemouth it will be too late.

 

[northantsbee]

I know you are a girlie NB but you don't have to go via Brentford when travelling from Northampton to Hartlepool!

rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl

You do when the club you support are incapable of organising a pee up in a brewery and you have to go and get your tickets 'in person' ..........

That bloody day cost me a fortune i can tell you. Other half lost out on a days wages too..............

The things we do for our club....................

 

[NorthamptonBee]

Hudders is a test and Bradford is only there if we are near the top of the league.

 

[Simon C]

Their new plan is better than the old one

Still not as simple as asking fans to keep hold of ticket stubs though.

 

[beezy babe]

After some feedback please.....

Apparently there is some dfficulty in administering the away registration for ticket priority. As i have stated elsewhere, whilst i understand that some prioirities need to be set i am still unconvinced that season ticket holders should come before those that travel away regularly when it comes to the 'big' games. Under the customer charter it would be doubtful that i would have got to the Southampton game, even though i missed in total only 8 games last season, includng ne horrendous trek from Northampton down to GP, and then all the way up to Hartlepool for the Tuesday night game!!

Would anyone other than me and one or two others i have spoken to be interested in an away ticket voucher system?

It would work along the following lines...... at the start of the season you could purchase a book of vouchers either 5 or 10 for £30 or £55 respectively

Each time a voucher is used to purchase a ticket you would receive £5 off the cost of said ticket. Therefore when it comes to the game of the season such as Southampton away last year all those who hold away ticket vouchers would have first refusal. Then we can move onto the order on the customer charter. The away season ticket would end up costing a fiver (just to cover any costs)...

It may be a terrible idea in which case i apologise..... but it seems to make sense to someone like me who doesnt have a season ticket but travels home and away to a majority of games.

The charter has to stand now until the end of the season at least so ST holders will have to be offered priority on away tickets.

Personally I think it is right that ST who have away history have first priority and then ST holders, but that could be because I am a ST holder who goes to away games!! :shrug:

WEB - I agree that it's a bit late to sort it out but there is very little that we can do about it now!! The new scheme is designed to make the best of a bad situation really.

 

[beezy babe]

Still not as simple as asking fans to keep hold of ticket stubs though.

It's less open to abuse though as it's easy to get ticket stubs from a mate - this way you have to have bought the ticket yourself.

 

[brighton bee]

so if i understand the new plan all you need to do is go to two away games starting from october then its happy days?

 

[West Ealing Bee]

so if i understand the new plan all you need to do is go to two away games starting from october then its happy days?

:yes:

You get the same priority for going to Southend and Swindon as you do for going to Oldham and Hartlepool

 

[West Ealing Bee]

WEB - I agree that it's a bit late to sort it out but there is very little that we can do about it now!! The new scheme is designed to make the best of a bad situation really.

There is lots they could have done.

They could certainly have weighted some games or they could have cancelled teh idea completely.

What we have now is a fudge, which simply won't work.

Any fool could have looked at the last day of the season and thought, oh dear problem. You then look at the opening fixtures and the problem gave a solution. Even now there is a chance, we won't have huge numbers at Huddersfield, Oldham, Hartlepool etc. Why make it any 2 games :scratch:

 

[northantsbee]

The charter has to stand now until the end of the season at least so ST holders will have to be offered priority on away tickets.

Personally I think it is right that ST who have away history have first priority and then ST holders, but that could be because I am a ST holder who goes to away games!! :shrug:

WEB - I agree that it's a bit late to sort it out but there is very little that we can do about it now!! The new scheme is designed to make the best of a bad situation really.

Is that why i never got a response to my email to BIAS on the subject

Seriously though why should season ticket holders who dont go to away games normally be able to 'cherry pick' i dont dispute that those ST who do travel should have priority but i have missed less than 60 games in the last 10 years why should someone like me (my brother, partner, dad are all the same/similar ) not be able to get a ticket for a big game like Southampton. Would it be fairer to allow someone who has possibly NEVER been to an away game to go instead of someone like me who travels around the country week in week out doing thousands of miles a year following BFC?

 

[RodBee]

I always purchase tickets for away matches for Scouse Sarah, Fat Bee Slim and myself when we have to pre-purchase them.

Does this new scheme mean I would be entitled to purchase three tickets or would I only get one?

The alternative will be to make three separate purchases which wastes everyones time!

 

[beezy babe]

For the record, I don't think having to have been to 2 away games is sufficient either and I told the Club so but they were determined to stick with this rule.

And northantsbee you cheeky mare, you have never written to us as far as I am aware!! - You can buy the first of those those beers for that!! lol

 

[northantsbee]

For the record, I don't think having to have been to 2 away games is sufficient either and I told the Club so but they were determined to stick with this rule.

And northantsbee you cheeky mare, you have never written to us as far as I am aware!! - You can buy the first of those those beers for that!! lol

rofl

I did honest...... if i can find it i will forward it to you......

You didnt answer my question though

 

[beezy babe]

rofl

I did honest...... if i can find it i will forward it to you......

You didnt answer my question though

Nana will be accusing me of lying again in a minute

Please forward it to us if you can find it.

And you can still buy the beer lol

 

[northantsbee]

Nana will be accusing me of lying again in a minute

Please forward it to us if you can find it.

And you can still buy the beer lol

Cant find it sorry

But you still didnt answer my question.....

More than happy to buy beers tho

 

[Simon C]

It's less open to abuse though as it's easy to get ticket stubs from a mate - this way you have to have bought the ticket yourself.

But it's more likely that fans will miss out who genuinely went to games that they couldn't buy tickets for in advance.

 

[wanderer paul]

Seriously though why should season ticket holders who dont go to away games normally be able to 'cherry pick' i dont dispute that those ST who do travel should have priority but i have missed less than 60 games in the last 10 years why should someone like me (my brother, partner, dad are all the same/similar ) not be able to get a ticket for a big game like Southampton. Would it be fairer to allow someone who has possibly NEVER been to an away game to go instead of someone like me who travels around the country week in week out doing thousands of miles a year following BFC?

Can we do a count back to the eighties and nineties when i went to practically all the matches but as i now have family etc 'i have to cherry pick' the away games i go to. In 9 seasons during the late eighties/early nineties i missed only 10 games, does this count towards my 'loyalty rights'.

I got to Southampton even though i wasn't a ST holder member etc etc, because i 'new people' and got tickets, but to make these rules to suit you and to pee off those that went years ago, even though i still get to 60-70% of home games but only 5 or so away, just so that you get first choice is still unfair. but not to worry i'll get tickets somehow from somewhere don't you worry. Big games here we come !!!

 

[Edmundo]

Looks like I have been royally ****ed over by this and Bees United and BIAS have agreed. Pending discussions on my return to the UK, they will both be in receipt of my resignation. :mad1:

 

[Bee H]

Looks like I have been royally ****ed over by this and Bees United and BIAS have agreed. Pending discussions on my return to the UK, they will both be in receipt of my resignation. :mad1:

Hey Ed, you enjoy your holiday eh !


GET OFF THE INTERNET, YOU'RE ON HOLIDAY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[northantsbee]

Can we do a count back to the eighties and nineties when i went to practically all the matches but as i now have family etc 'i have to cherry pick' the away games i go to. In 9 seasons during the late eighties/early nineties i missed only 10 games, does this count towards my 'loyalty rights'.

I got to Southampton even though i wasn't a ST holder member etc etc, because i 'new people' and got tickets, but to make these rules to suit you and to pee off those that went years ago, even though i still get to 60-70% of home games but only 5 or so away, just so that you get first choice is still unfair. but not to worry i'll get tickets somehow from somewhere don't you worry. Big games here we come !!!

Thats not my point Wanderer, my point is that i am told it is fairer to let ST have first refusal. I just want to know why it is 'fairer' for a fan who goes to home matches ONLY to get a ticket for a big game like Southampton but not someone like me who goes home and away (well if you can call travelling 180 miles a home game) should come so far down the pecking order that they are likely to miss out. Hence the suggestion of an 'away' season ticket which ends up costing all most nothing and only contains 5 vouchers which can be redeemed against the tickets that you buy.

 

[beezy babe]

Cant find it sorry

But you still didnt answer my question.....

More than happy to buy beers tho

I answered by saying that I didn't think 2 games was sufficient either - i.e. I don't think they should be allowed to cherry pick. However, the Club will always reward ST holders as they want to encourage people to put money into the Club up front at the beginning of the season.

 

[beezy babe]

Looks like I have been royally ****ed over by this and Bees United and BIAS have agreed. Pending discussions on my return to the UK, they will both be in receipt of my resignation. :mad1:

How have you been fecked over? Do you think you should get some priority because you managed to get a voucher when others paid the same for their ticket but didn't? I personally agreed that the voucher scheme should be scrapped because I thought it was the fairest way about it. Why do you disagree with that so strongly that you want to resign?

And why are you on the internet again when you paid all that money to go away?

 

[beezy babe]

But it's more likely that fans will miss out who genuinely went to games that they couldn't buy tickets for in advance.

There are only 4 games after 1st October when the scheme starts that you might not be able to buy tickets in advance for.

 

[Luton Bee]

As a S/T holder I have no problem with those who travel on a regular basis getting priority for big away games (not homes), the problem is how to manage such a scheme. Would it be possible for the club to keep records if tickets were bought in advance through the club (from which we benefit to the tune of 5% anyway)?

 

[beezy babe]

As a S/T holder I have no problem with those who travel on a regular basis getting priority for big away games (not homes), the problem is how to manage such a scheme. Would it be possible for the club to keep records if tickets were bought in advance through the club (from which we benefit to the tune of 5% anyway)?

That is exactly what they are going to be doing

 

[northantsbee]

I answered by saying that I didn't think 2 games was sufficient either - i.e. I don't think they should be allowed to cherry pick. However, the Club will always reward ST holders as they want to encourage people to put money into the Club up front at the beginning of the season.

Wasnt me that asked that question........ i asked whether you think its fair that someone who travels home and away week in week out doesnt get a ticket because a ST holder who NEVER goes to an away game does?

know the ST holders have to have some incentive, however, I put just as much money (if not more) into the club by attending every home game and paying on the gate....

This is not directed at you i just think a bit of thought might come up with a better solution. :shrug:

 

[Luton Bee]

That is exactly what they are going to be doing

Sorry I'm confused then, I thought it was based on collecting a form from someone at a designated away game or something?

If what you say is correct, I can't see what people are complaining about?

 

[beezy babe]

Wasnt me that asked that question........ i asked whether you think its fair that someone who travels home and away week in week out doesnt get a ticket because a ST holder who NEVER goes to an away game does?

know the ST holders have to have some incentive, however, I put just as much money (if not more) into the club by attending every home game and paying on the gate....

This is not directed at you i just think a bit of thought might come up with a better solution. :shrug:

If you reward away travellers over ST holders then ST holders will wonder why they bother to buy a ST and won't next season and then the Club will be without that income up front. I agree that it is not ideal.

The solution for you of course would be to buy a season ticket!!

 

[beezy babe]

Sorry I'm confused then, I thought it was based on collecting a form from someone at a designated away game or something?

If what you say is correct, I can't see what people are complaining about?

It's been changed - article on the OS today. The voucher scheme has been scrapped.

 

[Simon C]

Luton Bee needs to read this:

http://www.brentfordfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/News/NewsDetail/0,,10421~714270,00.html

But it does indicate how hard this scheme will be to run and for fans to get full benefit from it.

 

[Banana]

I'm going to find the 2 cheapest away games and book tickets through the club. I won't bother going though

 

[Luton Bee]

Luton Bee needs to read this:

http://www.brentfordfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/News/NewsDetail/0,,10421~714270,00.html

But it does indicate how hard this scheme will be to run and for fans to get full benefit from it.

Luton Bee has now read it!!!!!

Simply drop the first three words from category one and the jobs a good'en?

 

[beezy babe]

I'm going to find the 2 cheapest away games and book tickets through the club. I won't bother going though

That's not exactly a new idea is it - some people have been doing that with England games for months!! :blush

 

[rebus]

GET OFF THE INTERNET, YOU'RE ON HOLIDAY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

rofl

 

[northantsbee]

If you reward away travellers over ST holders then ST holders will wonder why they bother to buy a ST and won't next season and then the Club will be without that income up front. I agree that it is not ideal.

The solution for you of course would be to buy a season ticket!!

And if i could i would... i was intending to this season but decided to have a holiday instead.......

Incidentally the away season ticket wouldnt result in the holders paying less for their tickets because they will have paid up front for their vouchers.... the reduction on the ticket is really only in theory. The club makes up the 'difference' from the pot of away season ticket purchases.

Like i said its probably a bad idea it was just a thought.......

 

[Willo]

And if i could i would... i was intending to this season but decided to have a holiday instead.......

Incidentally the away season ticket wouldnt result in the holders paying less for their tickets because they will have paid up front for their vouchers.... the reduction on the ticket is really only in theory. The club makes up the 'difference' from the pot of away season ticket purchases.

Like i said its probably a bad idea it was just a thought.......

I personally think that away season tickets for a club our size with our small away attendances is pointless. We haven't had too much problems with 'big' away games / ticket problems until the Hinckley game. (As for the Southmapton, game every season ticket holder would have got a seat had the club sold the tickets correctly). Although I do agree that with the possible problems that could arise from the Bournemouth game the club must act fast although scrapping the vouchers completly is :scratch:

 

[wanderer paul]

would we want the scheme if we were struggling down the bottom and with big wally in charge? i doubt it. Its only because we're getting a sniff at bigger things with MA that these 'schemes' are being requested. Can't wait till next season when we get promoted and play 'big home matches' every week. they'll be saying you got to go to all the aways to get a home ticket. scrap the whole idea now. ST holders get two per ST for major away matches in 1st two days, then its down to club,bias,BU,lifeline members for two tickets next couple of days then on general sale. simple, easy to put in place and easy to admin. if you couldn't make it down to the club at the right time then i suggest you try and speak to fans standing/sitting around you or get out more and make friends with Bees supporters.

 

[northantsbee]

would we want the scheme if we were struggling down the bottom and with big wally in charge? i doubt it. Its only because we're getting a sniff at bigger things with MA that these 'schemes' are being requested. Can't wait till next season when we get promoted and play 'big home matches' every week. they'll be saying you got to go to all the aways to get a home ticket. scrap the whole idea now. ST holders get two per ST for major away matches in 1st two days, then its down to club,bias,BU,lifeline members for two tickets next couple of days then on general sale. simple, easy to put in place and easy to admin. if you couldn't make it down to the club at the right time then i suggest you try and speak to fans standing/sitting around you or get out more and make friends with Bees supporters.

Yes how dare I support the Bees from a distance........ and the answer is yes i would still think this scheme would be useful if we were down the bottom and struggling. It makes no difference to me which division we are in, who the manager is or whether we are down the bottom or at the top I still follow the Bees home and away season in season out. The trouble is that almost everyone i stand with lives a reasonable distance from GP, let me see.... Peterborough, Northampton, Chippenham, Scotland, Glouscester, Thailand, Newport Pagnell, High Wycombe....sorry bout that

 

[West Ealing Bee]

In general, wanderer paul, that is fine.

However we have some games where we only get 800 or so tickets and we have 2,000+ season ticket holders. What happens then?

You said you went to lots of games in teh 80s and 90s, how would you have felt if you had missed on a ticket to Peterborough because you didn't have an s/t, despite going to lots of away games?

That is how lots of us feel now.

Hinckley and Southampton last year showed the problems this club has selling tickets, there needs to be something done to put it right. And while you are right in saying this is only happening because we are a good team surely we need to plan on that basis :scratch:

 

[beezy babe]

In general, wanderer paul, that is fine.

However we have some games where we only get 800 or so tickets and we have 2,000+ season ticket holders. What happens then?

You said you went to lots of games in teh 80s and 90s, how would you have felt if you had missed on a ticket to Peterborough because you didn't have an s/t, despite going to lots of away games?

That is how lots of us feel now.

Hinckley and Southampton last year showed the problems this club has selling tickets, there needs to be something done to put it right. And while you are right in saying this is only happening because we are a good team surely we need to plan on that basis :scratch:

Agree totally with that.

 

[wanderer paul]

i got to the bigger games which were ticket only because we got to the club first or knew people with ST's who could get them. is it my fault that i have 3 children and i have them every other weekend. its just one of those things, thats life. if theres only 500 tickets then its the first 500 who get them. simple. you can't come on here and say 'i went to 46 games this season and that season so i should get put to the top of the pile' if your lucky to get one of the 500/800/1000/2000 tickets then goodluck to you. but how do you think some premier/championship supporters feel when they get only a small number compared to their home gates. its ST holders who go into draws. if your lucky then great go and enjoy yourself, but don't mope. or get a ticket by other means! i'm not having a go at anyone but you have to make getting away tickets easy for admin purposes and to be fair to everyone. if there's only 800 for bournemouth away say then the ST holders go into a hat/computer and 800 names are churned/drawn out, if you get one then great. it was said last year on the GPG during the ticket fiasco, "i got a ticket for hartlepool last year or i did have one to darlington in the 70's but can't find it." do these count?

 

[Luton Bee]

i is it my fault that i have 3 children?

One would hope it is!

 

[northantsbee]

i got to the bigger games which were ticket only because we got to the club first or knew people with ST's who could get them. is it my fault that i have 3 children and i have them every other weekend. its just one of those things, thats life. if theres only 500 tickets then its the first 500 who get them. simple. you can't come on here and say 'i went to 46 games this season and that season so i should get put to the top of the pile' if your lucky to get one of the 500/800/1000/2000 tickets then goodluck to you. but how do you think some premier/championship supporters feel when they get only a small number compared to their home gates. its ST holders who go into draws. if your lucky then great go and enjoy yourself, but don't mope. or get a ticket by other means! i'm not having a go at anyone but you have to make getting away tickets easy for admin purposes and to be fair to everyone. if there's only 800 for bournemouth away say then the ST holders go into a hat/computer and 800 names are churned/drawn out, if you get one then great. it was said last year on the GPG during the ticket fiasco, "i got a ticket for hartlepool last year or i did have one to darlington in the 70's but can't find it." do these count?

Well I guess we will have to agree to disagree.....

However, your point of being fair to everyone...... should i take it to mean that it is 'fair' for me not to get to lets say Southampton because i dont buy a season ticket even though i have attended all home and away games so far....

Most 'big' clubs have an away season ticket or away fans club which gives priority to those that travel away...... i wonder why that is?

I got tickets for Southampton, Hinckley, Hartlepool etc but the point is that we need to find a fair way to get tickets to those who do not 'cherry pick' those faces that you see every week at away games should have some way of having first refusal on the 'big' games that everyone wants to go to.

I lost track of the number of 'fans' that went to Southampton that i heard saying, I havent been to a an away game for years..... or 'oh this is a nice stadium if we played in places like this i might go to away games sometimes' or even ' so which player is that, does he usually play for Brentford' and even 'which colour are Brentford'

Sorry but a system that penalises those who dont have season ticjets but who attend virtually every game is not fair

 

[wanderer paul]

One would hope it is!

very good ! rofl

 

[Pattaya Bee]

if there's only 800 for bournemouth away say then the ST holders go into a hat/computer and 800 names are churned/drawn out, if you get one then great.

Although they may not have been to an away game all season ? bollox.

 

[northantsbee]

Although they may not have been to an away game all season ? bollox.

My point exactly

 

[wanderer paul]

Although they may not have been to an away game all season ? bollox.

can't wait for the draw then and wave the ticket in front of you! not been away yet !! don't intend to go away till bournemouth for the title!