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Bees Player 2012

Realised my bees player payment had been recently taken so checked out the latest interviews.The sound quality during Farid and Uwe is very poor unless you like listening to the Heathrow flightpath and the standard during Logans at GP should not be allowed to be broadcast.Maybe the new communications team can sort out a bit of quality controlling.
 

Bees Player 2012

Realised my bees player payment had been recently taken so checked out the latest interviews.The sound quality during Farid and Uwe is very poor unless you like listening to the Heathrow flightpath and the standard during Logans at GP should not be allowed to be broadcast.Maybe the new communications team can sort out a bit of quality controlling.


I couldn't agree more. Nothing like missing half the interview bebause of some noisy jumbo jet driver.
 

Bees Player 2012

Anyone subscribing to Bees Player please be aware of making sure you print out the subscription reference when they have received your money,as it is not BFC who are receiving the monies in the first instance. Last August, a relative paid for Bees Player as a birthday present for me. I was able to watch it until about May this year when I tried to sign in as usual, and received the message "you no longer have a valid account". After many emails to the company operating the system, and getting nowhere, I reluctantly had to purchase another subscription, albeit 4 months early. Unfortunately, my email to BFC to help on the matter remained unanswered, which was a little disappointing.
 

Bees Player 2012

Realised my bees player payment had been recently taken so checked out the latest interviews.The sound quality during Farid and Uwe is very poor unless you like listening to the Heathrow flightpath and the standard during Logans at GP should not be allowed to be broadcast.Maybe the new communications team can sort out a bit of quality controlling.

Enjoyed watching the plastic bird behind Logans head....YOU REDS....
 

Bees Player 2012

After many emails to the company operating the system, and getting nowhere, I reluctantly had to purchase another subscription, albeit 4 months early. Unfortunately, my email to BFC to help on the matter remained unanswered, which was a little disappointing.

why didn't you ring the club about it? looks like you got ripped off :(
 

Bees Player 2012

I received 3 e-mails from Bees Player today.

So that we are able to provide you with these new and improved features, we will need to increase the price of your subscription slightly. As of 01/08/2012 your subscription will start to be billed at £4.49 per month, an increase of just GBP 0.20p per month.

So that we are able to provide you with these new and improved features, we will need to increase the price of your subscription slightly. As of 01/08/2012 your subscription will start to be billed at £37.99 per year, an increase of just GBP2 per year.

So that we are able to provide you with these new and improved features, we will need to increase the price of your subscription slightly. As of 01/08/2012 your subscription will start to be billed at £42.99 per year, an increase of just GBP 3 per year.

The Bees Player flyer that arrived with my ST stated £36.65 per year instead of £39.99.

:confused:
 

Bees Player 2012

I received 3 e-mails from Bees Player today.

So that we are able to provide you with these new and improved features, we will need to increase the price of your subscription slightly. As of 01/08/2012 your subscription will start to be billed at £4.49 per month, an increase of just GBP 0.20p per month.

So that we are able to provide you with these new and improved features, we will need to increase the price of your subscription slightly. As of 01/08/2012 your subscription will start to be billed at £37.99 per year, an increase of just GBP2 per year.

So that we are able to provide you with these new and improved features, we will need to increase the price of your subscription slightly. As of 01/08/2012 your subscription will start to be billed at £42.99 per year, an increase of just GBP 3 per year.

The Bees Player flyer that arrived with my ST stated £36.65 per year instead of £39.99.

:confused:

Yep got the same emails! Don't know what I should be charged now!
 

Bees Player 2012

Yep same here. Sounds like one of those situations where you should tell them to stuff it if they don't agree to charge the lowest price they have offered but it isn't clear how you can contact anyone about it and I'm not sure I can be bothered spending hours to save a fiver.
 

Bees Player 2012

I received 3 e-mails from Bees Player today.

So that we are able to provide you with these new and improved features, we will need to increase the price of your subscription slightly. As of 01/08/2012 your subscription will start to be billed at £4.49 per month, an increase of just GBP 0.20p per month.

So that we are able to provide you with these new and improved features, we will need to increase the price of your subscription slightly. As of 01/08/2012 your subscription will start to be billed at £37.99 per year, an increase of just GBP2 per year.

So that we are able to provide you with these new and improved features, we will need to increase the price of your subscription slightly. As of 01/08/2012 your subscription will start to be billed at £42.99 per year, an increase of just GBP 3 per year.

The Bees Player flyer that arrived with my ST stated £36.65 per year instead of £39.99.

:confused:


Ditto :eek:
 

Bees Player 2012

They've since appologised for it, but still. They really do need to work on their communications department a bit....
 

Bees Player 2012

What do you mean!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Like when they sent out a text saying 'Brentford's game against Brentford has been moved forward 48 hours' referencing the Leyton Orient fixture move. Not sending out multiple e-mails all contradicting one another. Typos on news stories and Facebook ect. Stuff like that.
 

Bees Player 2012

I received 3 e-mails from Bees Player today.

So that we are able to provide you with these new and improved features, we will need to increase the price of your subscription slightly. As of 01/08/2012 your subscription will start to be billed at £4.49 per month, an increase of just GBP 0.20p per month.

So that we are able to provide you with these new and improved features, we will need to increase the price of your subscription slightly. As of 01/08/2012 your subscription will start to be billed at £37.99 per year, an increase of just GBP2 per year.

So that we are able to provide you with these new and improved features, we will need to increase the price of your subscription slightly. As of 01/08/2012 your subscription will start to be billed at £42.99 per year, an increase of just GBP 3 per year.

The Bees Player flyer that arrived with my ST stated £36.65 per year instead of £39.99.

:confused:

So have I received the same and the email reply address is a bit iffy, can we get an official statement from the club on what is going on or is this a scam started to coincide with everyone disappearing off to Germany?????????????????????///
 

Bees Player 2012

The company supplying Beesplayer is nothing to do with Brentford FC. Brentford just take a cut of the subs. Is it still PremierTV? Took me ages to sort things out with them a couple of seasons ago. They're not the best as IIRC there isn't a phone number, only email address as contact.
 

Bees Player 2012

If I want to pay more for teh subscription will it mean we will win more games ? If so, I'm up for paying 100 pounds per month. Hope that helps
 

Bees Player 2012

The company supplying Beesplayer is nothing to do with Brentford FC. Brentford just take a cut of the subs. Is it still PremierTV? Took me ages to sort things out with them a couple of seasons ago. They're not the best as IIRC there isn't a phone number, only email address as contact.

They are called PerformGroup now, but yes its the same people.
 

Bees Player 2012

The company supplying Beesplayer is nothing to do with Brentford FC. Brentford just take a cut of the subs. Is it still PremierTV? Took me ages to sort things out with them a couple of seasons ago. They're not the best as IIRC there isn't a phone number, only email address as contact.
Absolutely agree with your comments. The joke of the emails, which I also received, is that due to the Premiertv company messing up my subscription for last year, I paid for a year's Bees Player on 21st May this year. What a fiasco.
 

Bees Player 2012

Like when they sent out a text saying 'Brentford's game against Brentford has been moved forward 48 hours' referencing the Leyton Orient fixture move. Not sending out multiple e-mails all contradicting one another. Typos on news stories and Facebook ect. Stuff like that.

Sorry Invipai, my comment was an aside at anybody new who might be in our communications departmen!. I hope that claries my original comment.
 

Bees Player 2012

Why are they increasing the cost 8.5% nearly 300% more than inflation? Using the excuse that they are providing more functionality does not wash as when their system fails to function (as it has many times in the past and yesterdays fiasco was just the latest) they don't offer your clients (loyal over many years) a %rebate.
I'm seriously considering ending my patronage due to their cavalier ways of operating unless I get a suitable answer.
 

Bees Player 2012

Anyone else having trouble logging in at the moment?

Keep getting the same message:


Sorry, the page you are trying to reach may have expired, or been moved.

If you have followed a link from your bookmarks, please relocate the page and remember to update your booksmarks.
< Go back to the previous page Go to latest news >
 

Bees Player 2012

Anyone else having trouble logging in at the moment?

Keep getting the same message:


Sorry, the page you are trying to reach may have expired, or been moved.

If you have followed a link from your bookmarks, please relocate the page and remember to update your booksmarks.
< Go back to the previous page Go to latest news >

Perhaps something to do with the impending new web site launch.
 

Bees Player 2012

Probably right. Now working, which is good as I've just logged in to unsubscribe.

Another shame because the content has improved since I started subscribing, great effort by the club's staff. But can't justify another price hike and I'm sure it will go up again when it is simply a luxury.

I know BFC are 'locked into watertight deals' with the providers for the OS and Beesplayer but the comms department really should be looking at alternatives if possible because these changes are backward moves.
 

Bees Player 2012

Probably right. Now working, which is good as I've just logged in to unsubscribe.

Another shame because the content has improved since I started subscribing, great effort by the club's staff. But can't justify another price hike and I'm sure it will go up again when it is simply a luxury.

I know BFC are 'locked into watertight deals' with the providers for the OS and Beesplayer but the comms department really should be looking at alternatives if possible because these changes are backward moves.

I think it's sad that all of Brentford's content seems to have a price attached to it. Subscribe to bees world. Pay for text messages etc. Even twitter (a free and mass media) just points you back to links on the website.

We are now in an age of communication. Most companies use their websites and social media to broaden their appeal - playing the long term game. We don't. We use any breaking news or interviews to try and drive use of BeesWorld. The Benham interview was a prime example of this and it was incredibly shortsighted.

The debate over paid content online rumbles on in the world of national press - fact is that the daily mail (free content read by millions) is now profitable online and the times (firewalled content with a pay model) isn't.

Dont get me wrong, I think there are some things that Brentford are right to be charging for - people are used to paying for Sky so paying for BeesWorld commentary (and the "show" is actually of a very decent standard now) makes perfect commercial sense both for the club and for subscribers. But paying for "breaking news" frankly sucks, particularly when it could be used to grow the appeal of the club.

I've seen our dear friends at Loftus Road trending twice on twitter recently due to understanding how social media works.
 

Bees Player 2012

Probably right. Now working, which is good as I've just logged in to unsubscribe.

Another shame because the content has improved since I started subscribing, great effort by the club's staff. But can't justify another price hike and I'm sure it will go up again when it is simply a luxury.

I know BFC are 'locked into watertight deals' with the providers for the OS and Beesplayer but the comms department really should be looking at alternatives if possible because these changes are backward moves.

I think the deals are done Football League wide, I don't think BFC have a choice even if they wanted to.
 

Bees Player 2012

I think it's sad that all of Brentford's content seems to have a price attached to it. Subscribe to bees world. Pay for text messages etc. Even twitter (a free and mass media) just points you back to links on the website.

We are now in an age of communication. Most companies use their websites and social media to broaden their appeal - playing the long term game. We don't. We use any breaking news or interviews to try and drive use of BeesWorld. The Benham interview was a prime example of this and it was incredibly shortsighted.

The debate over paid content online rumbles on in the world of national press - fact is that the daily mail (free content read by millions) is now profitable online and the times (firewalled content with a pay model) isn't.

Dont get me wrong, I think there are some things that Brentford are right to be charging for - people are used to paying for Sky so paying for BeesWorld commentary (and the "show" is actually of a very decent standard now) makes perfect commercial sense both for the club and for subscribers. But paying for "breaking news" frankly sucks, particularly when it could be used to grow the appeal of the club.

I've seen our dear friends at Loftus Road trending twice on twitter recently due to understanding how social media works.

Good post. Commentary should be sold on a match-by-match basis. Sometimes I can't make an away game so need the commentary but at the same time, I don't want to see an interview with the youth team coach.

The deal that BFC are locked into is so so rigid. I'd like to know what the comms department really think!
 

Bees Player 2012

I think the deals are done Football League wide, I don't think BFC have a choice even if they wanted to.

we surely DO have a say in what we charge for and what we dont
 

Bees Player 2012

Subscription is the same all over the board. All clubs the payment is the same, hense why you can watch material off other clubs 'Players' (although I don't make a habit of doing that).

I don't know what percent of the money the club get in return (although it's enough to hire staff to work it and for the additional effort). But then it's up to the club to produce the content to make it seem worthwhile to the consumer.

Commentary and highlights is the main package.
Development Squad/youth highlights is the next (given you can't access it elsewhere).

Interviews ect are a luxury, especially considering that all of the best bits are transcribed for the website soon after anyway.
But that's mainly it....

I personally think the Player should discount for the summer months, given that we pay the same amount to get an interview with a new signing once every 3 weeks. But the whole thing is a bit of an....unnecessary luxury anyway for people who can make most home games. If money was tighter I would have no problem stopping using it.
 

Bees Player 2012

The beesplayer service seems to have gotten poorer this year. Is it just me who has the problem, every time I click on a Uwe interview after a pre-season friendly like after the last game in Germany and again today after Wycombe, I seem to get the same interview from the 2nd Germany pre-season game?

Furthermore, the interviews seem to have gotten shorter (average a mintue and a half instead of an average of three minutes and a half last season), whilst the image and background quality has gotten poorer. I don't have much of a problem with slightly increasing my subscription, but I don't expect a worse quality service in return.
 

Bees Player 2012

I'm still getting over the fact that I can't view match highlights from before 09/10, like you could when it used to be called BeesWorld. :(
 

Bees Player 2012

The beesplayer service seems to have gotten poorer this year. Is it just me who has the problem, every time I click on a Uwe interview after a pre-season friendly like after the last game in Germany and again today after Wycombe, I seem to get the same interview from the 2nd Germany pre-season game?

Furthermore, the interviews seem to have gotten shorter (average a mintue and a half instead of an average of three minutes and a half last season), whilst the image and background quality has gotten poorer. I don't have much of a problem with slightly increasing my subscription, but I don't expect a worse quality service in return.

I'm having the same problem with the latest Uwe interview :mad1:
 

Bees Player 2012

might've considered coming back to BeesPlayer this year with pre-season optimism abounding, but it sounds like (despite the best efforts of some at the club) the product is really struggling. will wait til i hear more positivity....
 

Bees Player 2012

No for me have to wear ear plugs during the commentary the endless screaming and excitement is to much for me
 

Bees Player 2012

To listen to that interview I had to go via the link on facebook, if I tried to find it on the Bees Player itself it gave me the Germany one.

The interview is pretty short though, (3 mins something) off the top of my head I can't think of anything ground breaking he said....
 

Bees Player 2012

The beesplayer service seems to have gotten poorer this year. Is it just me who has the problem, every time I click on a Uwe interview after a pre-season friendly like after the last game in Germany and again today after Wycombe, I seem to get the same interview from the 2nd Germany pre-season game?

Furthermore, the interviews seem to have gotten shorter (average a mintue and a half instead of an average of three minutes and a half last season), whilst the image and background quality has gotten poorer. I don't have much of a problem with slightly increasing my subscription, but I don't expect a worse quality service in return.

The post wycombe interview is a mess.You get a different interview depending on wether you choose low medium or high bandwidth.
I found the right interview on the high setting.
 

Bees Player 2012

The post wycombe interview is a mess.You get a different interview depending on wether you choose low medium or high bandwidth.
I found the right interview on the high setting.

Medium setting for me! Time to roll the enigineers out me thinks.
 

Bees Player 2012

might've considered coming back to BeesPlayer this year with pre-season optimism abounding, but it sounds like (despite the best efforts of some at the club) the product is really struggling. will wait til i hear more positivity....
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I'm trying to renew membership but they don't seem to want to do it!
Using the query email system I am waiting for their "feedback" reply (not manned at weekend?) ...but has anyone else found it impossible to re-new Beesplayer membership? I get put into an endless circle. I get my my account history details which include many "unavailable" bits in different columns and its impossible to select anything in the year list specifically . However you can select "re-register" which takes you to a page selecting monthly or annual, then payment method, etc, which is brilliant then I click submit and I'm back where I started on the account history page ........ VERY ANNOYING THAT THERE IS NO CONTACT PHONE NUMBER TO EXPLAIN STUFF LIKE THIS - I'LL BE SPITTING FEATHERS IF MY MEMBERSHIP IS CANCELLED BEFORE NEXT SATURDAYS AWAY GAME ....I know many IT people avoid human contact when possible ( I worked with many like that myself) but at least the IT support and sales people should be available for actual talking .... ok I'm getting old .....
 

Bees Player 2012

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I'm trying to renew membership but they don't seem to want to do it!
Using the query email system I am waiting for their "feedback" reply (not manned at weekend?) ...but has anyone else found it impossible to re-new Beesplayer membership? I get put into an endless circle. I get my my account history details which include many "unavailable" bits in different columns and its impossible to select anything in the year list specifically . However you can select "re-register" which takes you to a page selecting monthly or annual, then payment method, etc, which is brilliant then I click submit and I'm back where I started on the account history page ........ VERY ANNOYING THAT THERE IS NO CONTACT PHONE NUMBER TO EXPLAIN STUFF LIKE THIS - I'LL BE SPITTING FEATHERS IF MY MEMBERSHIP IS CANCELLED BEFORE NEXT SATURDAYS AWAY GAME ....I know many IT people avoid human contact when possible ( I worked with many like that myself) but at least the IT support and sales people should be available for actual talking .... ok I'm getting old .....

I renewed ok last night.
 

Bees Player 2012

Is anyone else failing to get commentary? I've logged on, selected live commentary and got - absolutely nothing!! Don't mind what they do to the OS. I don't pay for that, but I pay £38 for this 'service' and get nothing!!
 

Bees Player 2012

Just investigated and it seems my mac version is no longer supported (worked fine last year) - they took my subscription money ok a few days ago and nobody told me that I now need Leopard or later - fantastic!!
 

Bees Player 2012

Clicked on the triangle and it went to 2 vertical strips and the sound came on but sound very crackerly and still comes and goes. Is it worth the money uuuummm not sure it is.
 

Bees Player 2012

i have just got sound 75 min gone if its the same next match they can give back money waste of time
 

Bees Player 2012

I renewed ok last night.
Its ok now , thanks ..... Solved re-registering problem - I'm set up for automatic renewal via direct debit - I thought I was but wasn't sure so I asked them via their email advice link - they replied telling me expiry was on 10th and that I had to renew via website .... after resetting my password to solve the access issue they thought I had (I didn't) and telling me to delete browser history in IE (again to remove password that I kept saying wasn't my problem - I currently have full access) they have finally changed their minds and admitted I am set up to renew automatically until further notice - all sorted via multiple email exchanges over 2 days ......... one phone call would have done it but that would mean talking to another human being .......
 
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