Bees v Owls match report

[Thorne In The Side]

Still not to keen on Woodman, not really sure what to make of him

 

[Garybaldbee]

The crowds will return when we see more regular performances like this afternoons and we climb the table.

To some extent yes, but attendances are significantly down all over the country this season and national trends will be difficult to buck.

 

[JTofBFC]

I simply cannot believe I have just read that - he was excellent today, especially second half. Excellent covering, good against people running him and the best distributor of the back four. If Karleigh, Simpson and KOC had not played blinders he would have been my MOM. My only concerns today were (1) Spillane occasionaly defensively (though he looked good going forward); and (2) Alexander, who looked labourered throughout, though he undoubtedly worked hard. Hopefully this is the start of a string of decent results; you could almost see the confidence coming back into the team as the game went on. Fingers crossed!

Agreed re Woodman. There seems to be a school of thought that compared to Dickson, Woodman is more defensive minded. Maybe so, he is a full back after all but it has to be remembered that apart from being very solid defensively he has also been a stand out contributor for some of our goals this season, including today whether or not you think the ball to CM was intended.

Personally, I think he is a very astute signing and an excellent replacement for Dickson. A different type of player but potentially even better. We have the Dickson clone on the right side now in Spillane !

 

[beebopalula]

nice. kept possession well and played good football. Charlie's goal was a fantastic strikers goal, Spillane gave us an extra dimension with his forward runs. Special mention for Karleigh who turned in a great performance and Simpson who was superb throughout. Let's hope we have had a style makeover.

 

[SQUELCH]

Karleigh and King Kev were aweseome today. Great tackling and covering for Spillane today by Kev and Karleigh wasnt fazed by two of the divisions so called big time players in Tudgay and Morrison.

Big pats on the back to these two today.

 

[larrysigny]

We ditched the unlucky red socks and we won!

The goal is here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvJ8_z3noso

Thanks for the pictures.

 

[Sweepy]

bit of love from our friends in the east... http://orientitis.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=6236

"As much as I dislike Br£ntford I have to agree", one writes. I've always found this 'rivalry' difficult to comprehend. Haven't they got any eastern teams to get hot under the collar over? Perhaps we've just sh@t on them one time too often in the past. lol

 

[Westlad]

Sky chose the right game. Both teams played some good football although they faded away towards the end. 1-0 doesn't really do the game or Brentford justice, to be fair to us first half we passed well but couldn't really get into their half before we started launching it down the flanks, but they didn't test Hamer at all. Second half the difference was that we wanted it more, had the best chances (how did Weaver save that shot?), but at least for the whole 90 minutes we were solid at the back for once.

Karleigh had his best game in a Brentford shirt by far, Pim much better than before, Woodman was commanding imo and Spillane looked threatening going forward and worked well with Simpson although did leave gaps. Hamer didn't have a chance to prove himself but did pretty much everything right, only tiny criticism of him would be that he punches too much, and doesn't always get the distance.

Kev did better defensively in CM than he's done the rest of the season from right back. Dave had his first poor game of the season strangely. On the wings we have 5 players on the wings in Spillane, Simpson, Adams, Weston and Wood who could put in good performances, all played well but Adams has to surely get into the team even if at CM where we've had problems. Would be ridiculous to drop Kev after today and Dave has worked his way into an almost undroppable position.

Up front Charlie and Alexander always work hard still don't seem to be 100% fit, although quality finish from MacDonald.

Just need to make sure we can play like we did today more often.

 

[brentford born & bred]

Come on negative, AS out by Sept, brigade. That was what this team can do and there's plenty more to come. Brilliant squad we have, but it's bound to take a bit of time.

Excellent game, poor buggers looked shattered at the end. Well done to every player who played their part in very good win and hopefully that's the kick start we need.

So what do the "AS has lost the dressing room brigade" have to say after that performance. So that is a team that doesn't want to play for their manager?! LOL.

One thing for sure is those 11 now have the shirt and if any underperform then we have some equally good backups in the squad who are eager to claim a place in the team. Adams, Hunt and Wood all showed that when they came on.

 

[Castleview]

Excellent performance and kept it on the deck which was more productive,and Scotty picked the right players in right postions.Best player in my opinion was Karliegh Osborne won everything in the air,bring on the gas.Also Coke should of been sent off for a clear stamp on Woodman.

I dont like seeing games decided by how many players are left on the pitch but there was a definite stamp followed by a slap on the face. Still no doubt the ref was playing up to the T.V. audience by appearing to have the incident under control. I've seen players walk for less.

 

[Davee]

What a great performance, brilliant, should of been 3 or 4. Well played Bees.

 

[Westlad]

So what do the "AS has lost the dressing room brigade" have to say after that performance. So that is a team that doesn't want to play for their manager?! LOL.

One thing for sure is those 11 now have the shirt and if any underperform then we have some equally good backups in the squad who are eager to claim a place in the team. Adams, Hunt and Wood all showed that when they came on.

Don't think many people have said that AS has lost the dressing room.

I dont like seeing games decided by how many players are left on the pitch but there was a definite stamp followed by a slap on the face. Still no doubt the ref was playing up to the T.V. audience by appearing to have the incident under control. I've seen players walk for less.

The ref lost control of the game. Although it's refreshing to see refs who don't blow for a foul every ten seconds he was inconsistent in what he gave and lino wasn't much better either. Couldn't see the 'stamp' from where I was but could tell that something like that was going to happen as the players knew they could get away with it with this ref. Very poor performance on the telly.

 

[curiousgooner]

I watched the game today, I thought I would take the opportunity to actually see a full match since I pop in here every now and again

Was quite tempted to have a flutter on you to win 1-0 before the game, bit gutted not to have done so now lol

I thought generally Brentford played fairly well and with better finishing you should have won by a couple; perhaps a lack of confidence from the players after recent results

I could see why people complain about the long ball tactics as when the ball was passed around was when Brentford looked the most dangerous

MacDonald impressed me, as did Alexander for his work-rate rather than his performance as such.

Whilst Osbourne and Weston seem to play fairly well I thought that they are probably the weak links in the team. Obviously I don't see them every week but I don't think they would be up to the standard of the Championship which presumably is what you want if you are going for promotion. Osbourne looked very suspect when the ball came towards him, he always looked unsure as to what to do. Weston is quick, but just not good enough on the ball in my opinion

I was very pleased that you won though, and think that more performances like that will see you finish well

 

[Doovster]

Very good all round team performance today from back to front.

Big difference to last week was the tempo and general work rate which was excellent for 90 minutes. Our style of play clearly relies on a high tempo. The passing and movement were much better also along with a well organised back line.

I would pick out Karleigh and Simpson as excellent but no one let us down today.

When were at it we look like a very good side. The key now is to deliver that kind of performance on a regular basis, not just against the Hull's and Sheffield Wednesday's of this world.

 

[IslandBee]

Don't think many people have said that AS has lost the dressing room.
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I'm just going to smile knowingly, turn off and enjoy the rest of my day

 

[Bigbee]

What a great performance, brilliant, should of been 3 or 4. Well played Bees.

Get off Davee's laptop before he finds out

 

[ElioBee]

Great performance, goal, atmosphere, bring on Everton .
Anyone found any highlights of the match online ?

 

[Bigbee]

I watched the game today, I thought I would take the opportunity to actually see a full match since I pop in here every now and again

Was quite tempted to have a flutter on you to win 1-0 before the game, bit gutted not to have done so now lol

I thought generally Brentford played fairly well and with better finishing you should have won by a couple; perhaps a lack of confidence from the players after recent results

I could see why people complain about the long ball tactics as when the ball was passed around was when Brentford looked the most dangerous

MacDonald impressed me, as did Alexander for his work-rate rather than his performance as such.

Whilst Osbourne and Weston seem to play fairly well I thought that they are probably the weak links in the team. Obviously I don't see them every week but I don't think they would be up to the standard of the Championship which presumably is what you want if you are going for promotion. Osbourne looked very suspect when the ball came towards him, he always looked unsure as to what to do. Weston is quick, but just not good enough on the ball in my opinion

I was very pleased that you won though, and think that more performances like that will see you finish well

Thanks for that,sorry we have only one French player though and he doesnt look that French !

 

[curiousgooner]

Thanks for that,sorry we have only one French player though and he doesnt look that French !

That's where you are going wrong! rofl

Just my opinion, as an outsider of where I feel the team could be improved

 

[Owlsmoor_Bee]

That's where you are going wrong! rofl

Just my opinion, as an outsider of where I feel the team could be improved

And it's very welcome as we like you. Just so you know though, Osborne has no "U" - very important that you remember this.

 

[curiousgooner]

And it's very welcome as we like you. Just so you know though, Osborne has no "U" - very important that you remember this.

Sorry

I was going to be flash an put KO so that it appeared I knew what I was talking about

 

[slatts]

I watched the game today, I thought I would take the opportunity to actually see a full match since I pop in here every now and again

Was quite tempted to have a flutter on you to win 1-0 before the game, bit gutted not to have done so now lol

I thought generally Brentford played fairly well and with better finishing you should have won by a couple; perhaps a lack of confidence from the players after recent results

I could see why people complain about the long ball tactics as when the ball was passed around was when Brentford looked the most dangerous

MacDonald impressed me, as did Alexander for his work-rate rather than his performance as such.

Whilst Osbourne and Weston seem to play fairly well I thought that they are probably the weak links in the team. Obviously I don't see them every week but I don't think they would be up to the standard of the Championship which presumably is what you want if you are going for promotion. Osbourne looked very suspect when the ball came towards him, he always looked unsure as to what to do. Weston is quick, but just not good enough on the ball in my opinion

I was very pleased that you won though, and think that more performances like that will see you finish well

personally I would say you would be better off staying at the emirates and posting on the Arse web site as you seem to know eff all about Brentford.

 

[curiousgooner]

personally I would say you would be better off staying at the emirates and posting on the Arse web site as you seem to know eff all about Brentford.

What was inaccurate about my opinion?

 

[wibs]

What was inaccurate about my opinion?

nothing, its your opinion. Some people are just up for a ruck, ignore him.

 

[jlove]

personally I would say you would be better off staying at the emirates and posting on the Arse web site as you seem to know eff all about Brentford.

slatt's fingers must have slipped; what he should have typed was: "thank you for your interest and trying to learn about a genuine fans-run London non-Premier League club"!

Your observations seemed very accurate to me and I have the same conclusions about the players today.

 

[hairman]

slatt's fingers must have slipped; what he should have typed was: "thank you for your interest and trying to learn about a genuine fans-run London non-Premier League club"!

Your observations seemed very accurate to me and I have the same conclusions about the players today.

Well you're wrong as well if you thought Osbourne looked 'suspect'

 

[bostonhanwell]

I watched the game today, I thought I would take the opportunity to actually see a full match since I pop in here every now and again

Was quite tempted to have a flutter on you to win 1-0 before the game, bit gutted not to have done so now lol

I thought generally Brentford played fairly well and with better finishing you should have won by a couple; perhaps a lack of confidence from the players after recent results

I could see why people complain about the long ball tactics as when the ball was passed around was when Brentford looked the most dangerous

MacDonald impressed me, as did Alexander for his work-rate rather than his performance as such.

Whilst Osbourne and Weston seem to play fairly well I thought that they are probably the weak links in the team. Obviously I don't see them every week but I don't think they would be up to the standard of the Championship which presumably is what you want if you are going for promotion. Osbourne looked very suspect when the ball came towards him, he always looked unsure as to what to do. Weston is quick, but just not good enough on the ball in my opinion

I was very pleased that you won though, and think that more performances like that will see you finish well

Are you a closet Bee or what? It's okay you know I support both as well.
Think you are harsh on Osborne on today's game, I think he did really well. Weston is a bit like Walcott, loads of pace, doesn't always give the end product but you want him in your side.

 

[sonofabee]

Cracking game, 3-0 wouldn't have flattered us on the 2nd half performance.
Ben Hamer will make mistakes no doubt but his confidence and communication spread among the defence who were by and large excellent throughout.

Spillane offered a threat going forward as did Woodman today. Pim sound and Karleigh outstanding against good forwards.

I'm not sure if Kev would be my first choice at centre mid but he was briiliant today, always in the right place at the right time, mopping up and getting in timely tackles.

Simpson and Weston scared the hell out of their full backs and Charlie and Gary Alexander worked their socks off. Dave was average but as a team we were excellent.

Coke was lucky to stay on and maybe a petulant brat but a very good player as was Teale, both breaking and turning defence into attack quickly.

Now let's kick on and win the next three and put ourselves in a realistic position.

Hamer 7 Faultless but not really tested

Spillane 7 careless a couple of times but a threat going forward

Pim 7.5 Back to the form of last season thank goodness

Karleigh 9 Best performance in a bees shirt, outstanding

Woodman 7.5 Defended well and supported Miles as well

'Kev 9 Difficult to recall a better performance, dominated midfield throughout

Dave 6.5 Covered the ground but distribution poor and outshone by Kev

Miles 8 Constant threat and distribution improving, a great out ball as always takes 2 defenders to stop him

Simpson 8.5 Non stop running and they could't cope with him, great acquisition

Gary A 6.5 Not as effective as colleagues but held the ball up and never stopped working

Charlie 7.5 Deserved his goal for a great turn and shot, he's become a provider as well as a goalscorer but not even guaranteed a start when Adams is match fit

Adams 7 I've a feeling that with Miles one side and Nicky on the other we will have a real threat that teams will struggle to handle

 

[ice]

May of been said elsewhere but does anyone have a rewording of the match. Currently in traffic at Bristol and better not read all the thread !

 

[Garybaldbee]

personally I would say you would be better off staying at the emirates and posting on the Arse web site as you seem to know eff all about Brentford.

Thats the way to encourage people to take an interest in the club. Well done.....

 

[big neil]

Reverting to black socks was a masterstroke.

 

[emolitor]

Had to attend a good friends birthday party today and miss the game. Enjoying watching a recording of the game and quite (pleasantly) shocked at how well everyone played in the second half. Although there were only 5K at the grounds how was the atmosphere? Football on the TV is just not the same as attending the match.

 

[Westlad]

I watched the game today, I thought I would take the opportunity to actually see a full match since I pop in here every now and again

Was quite tempted to have a flutter on you to win 1-0 before the game, bit gutted not to have done so now lol

I thought generally Brentford played fairly well and with better finishing you should have won by a couple; perhaps a lack of confidence from the players after recent results

I could see why people complain about the long ball tactics as when the ball was passed around was when Brentford looked the most dangerous

MacDonald impressed me, as did Alexander for his work-rate rather than his performance as such.

Whilst Osbourne and Weston seem to play fairly well I thought that they are probably the weak links in the team. Obviously I don't see them every week but I don't think they would be up to the standard of the Championship which presumably is what you want if you are going for promotion. Osbourne looked very suspect when the ball came towards him, he always looked unsure as to what to do. Weston is quick, but just not good enough on the ball in my opinion

I was very pleased that you won though, and think that more performances like that will see you finish well

Osborne always looks suspect when the ball comes to him but I thought he dealt with pretty much everything today. You should have seen him early in the season if you thought he was a weak link today...

 

[blunstone]

Karleigh and King Kev were aweseome today. Great tackling and covering for Spillane today by Kev and Karleigh wasnt fazed by two of the divisions so called big time players in Tudgay and Morrison.

Big pats on the back to these two today.

interesting that these were the two home-grown players on show.


great performances from them both. and the rest of the team too...

 

[mundee4england]

Great performance, great result. Really showed what we can do today, played some good football and created enough chances that we could and probably should have had a couple more.

KO was fantastic and Pim looked like the one we know and love. I think these two are a strong partnership and we have Legge as back up!!!

Spillane gave us so much more going forward and we got the ball to the strikers on the deck without hoofing it long. Simpson again was quality, I would love to sign him permenantly, he has pace, power and intelligence and is a constant threat!

Mac and SGA worked very hard and Charlie's work and finish for the goal was excellent, sometimes I want to see Forster in his place but when he does that I have no case!!

Weston was a thorne in their side again, not wanting to criticise but sometimes I think his poor decision making often costs us a goal a game..... but without him the chances probably wouldn't come about so can't complain too much!

Special mention for Hunt who I felt came on when they were really cranking up the pressure and calmed us right down. Whenever he got on the ball he used it sensibly and didn't just hoof it back to them. He was assured in possession and that was exactly what we needed. Still think he is a great squad player to have despite the question marks some raise over his ability.

Adams looks to have the ability to 'create' something, interesting to see how he will be accomodated going forward.

We had Adams, Forster, Wood, Legge, Bean and Lee on the bench today with no room for Cort, Cracker, Saunders or Hudson....... a challenge for Scotty but a statement about the quality of the squad!!

We have to build on this..... four points minimum from the next two games!!

P.s.... Those who still have doubts over Woodman must be watching a different player to me. He is solid and rarely gives wingers an inch. He does the basics well and may not offer the attacking 'flair' of Dickson but provides alot of reassurance at the back. Really pleased to have him.

 

[hairman]

Osborne always looks suspect when the ball comes to him but I thought he dealt with pretty much everything today. You should have seen him early in the season if you thought he was a weak link today...

Not in eveyone's opinion, clearly.

 

[Sutton Bee]

I simply cannot believe I have just read that - he was excellent today, especially second half. Excellent covering, good against people running at him and the best distributor of the back four. If Karleigh, Simpson and KOC had not played blinders he would have been my MOM. My only concerns today were (1) Spillane occasionaly defensively (though he looked good going forward); and (2) Alexander, who looked labourered throughout, though he undoubtedly worked hard. Hopefully this is the start of a string of decent results; you could almost see the confidence coming back into the team as the game went on. Fingers crossed!

I want to make this clear, I said "Still not to keen on Woodman, not really sure what to make of him", I didn't mean to say he wasn't good in anyway, I'll give him his due he does a solid enough job at the back and did help for our goal today, but he doesn't have anyone competition at left back (Blake isn't making the bench not sure if he's injured or not, and Wood is too much of a left midfielder now) and for that reason I just don't think he works hard enough to keep his position.

Obviously we all have our opinions I am as entitled to mine as you are to yours, and thats how I feel about Woodman at this current time, he'll probably change my mind sooner rather than later and I don't doubt him in anyway but I am not ready to get on the bandwagon and become his biggest fan quite yet, but at the moment I don't think he stands out, maybe I am wrong but I would like to see at little more from him before I believe he is a mover and shaker in the team right now.

 

[hanworthbee]

sheff weds view http://www.owlstalk.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=134676&st=30 they think the will ruin us on their big pitch

 

[Bee49]

At last we clicked and the season starts here.If curiousgooner reckons Ossy is a weak link after todays performance he should have seen him yesterday year.
Lots of good performances and perhaps we should have won by more.Away banker that back-fired on the experts.
AS you'll still in a job.Well done,so onward and upwards,especially the latter.

 

[Stanley]

sheff weds view http://www.owlstalk.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=134676&st=30 they think the will ruin us on their big pitch

Love these type of quotes

Hillsborough 115 x 75 yards
GP 110 x 73 yards


So two yards wider, guess that can make a difference to some.

 

[vcmazz]

Had to attend a good friends birthday party today and miss the game. Enjoying watching a recording of the game and quite (pleasantly) shocked at how well everyone played in the second half. Although there were only 5K at the grounds how was the atmosphere? Football on the TV is just not the same as attending the match.

Do you mean it was a good party or an above average friend?

 

[curiousgooner]

Are you a closet Bee or what? It's okay you know I support both as well.
Think you are harsh on Osborne on today's game, I think he did really well. Weston is a bit like Walcott, loads of pace, doesn't always give the end product but you want him in your side.

Nope, just popped in with Chesney on loan to see how he was doing. You all seemed nice, and as a football fan I thought I might keep an eye on how Brentford were doing

I don't think Weston and Osborne are bad players as such, just that based on today I thought in the event of Brentford being promoted I'm not sure they would be up to player at a higher level regularly.

I thought Brentford were very good though today, I'm not criticising the performance at all

 

[detours]

sheff weds view http://www.owlstalk.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=134676&st=30 they think the will ruin us on their big pitch

Oh dear, they have said something like 'their pitch is too small to play out and out wingers'

Do they know anything of the way we play? lol

 

[Sweepy]

sheff weds view http://www.owlstalk.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=134676&st=30 they think the will ruin us on their big pitch

There are some disturbed yorkies on there. At least after the home defeat to Rochdale and bottom of the division after four games, we had reason to be disappointed with the start of the season. They're still top! Do they want to win every week or something?

I also notice their site has a feature where they can score each others posts. A few say that our lads played well, but the ones who are saying that SWFC were crap, it was our cup final (even though we've played them many times in the league now for it to have ceased to be a novelty) and that we weren't much better and the ground was a dump etc. seemed to be the ones scoring the highest. Big club delusional syndrome strikes again.

 

[Travel Tavern Bee]

Good performance , well played Bees

I can see why Spillane has been on the bench.

League need to look at that Coke challange.....disgraceful .

Hate to be negative but AS really needs not to react to comments being shouted.......naughty boy....ask Kempy

 

[maddogging]

Agree about Huntys contribution. Never wasted a pass and made a crunching tackle that got everyone going

 

[mundee4england]

Good performance , well played Bees

I can see why Spillane has been on the bench.

League need to look at that Coke challange.....disgraceful .

Hate to be negative but AS really needs not to react to comments being shouted.......naughty boy....ask Kempy

Spill the beans Kempy??!??

 

[Sutton Bee]

There are some disturbed yorkies on there. At least after the home defeat to Rochdale and bottom of the division after four games, we had reason to be disappointed with the start of the season. They're still top! Do they want to win every week or something?

I also notice their site has a feature where they can score each others posts. A few say that our lads played well, but the ones who are saying that SWFC were crap, it was our cup final (even though we've played them many times in the league now for it to have ceased to be a novelty) and that we weren't much better and the ground was a dump etc. seemed to be the ones scoring the highest. Big club delusional syndrome strikes again.

after playing them pretty regularly, and them yoyoing between this division and the bottom of the championship, its hard to believe they still consider themselves a big club, in terms of history yeah they are a big club but in terms of "where are they now?", they are no more than a low rent West Brom (a team unable to retain the status of a league above where the belong). Most of there fans thought they played badly, but in truth we were just better than they were. Yeah fair play they had nothing going forward but they held onto the ball well, just didn't do things with it like we did.

 

[Brain-dead Bee]

Excellent in most respects. We perhaps gave Potter too much room in midfield and Spillane was getting drawn in as a third CB at times, leaving Simpson, then Adams, to defend wide right - looked like a deliberate tactic

We looked dangerous when we got the ball down and deserved to win by at least 2

First view of Spillane: good going forward, but needs to concentrate at the back

Hamer didn't have great saves to make, but looked solid and organised, and yelled at defenders when he needed to

 

[Brentford_till_die]

I didnt hear what was said to Andy Scott but he turned round and said what sounded like "you what,shut up you ****ing *****"