Bees v Posh Reports

[nick logan]

Only sold 3 books!

Come on non bookers, get involved !!

 

[nick logan]

Oh, and we got our Myles back tonight!

Would you consider starting him on the right on Friday considering the way he ended the game ?

 

[maddogging]

Would you consider starting him on the right on Friday considering the way he ended the game ?

and who on the left Nick...?

 

[nick logan]

and who on the left Nick...?

Hey i didn't think it through that much !!

Just he looked really good down the right, weirdly he seem a better crosser with his " wrong" foot . If Sam is back soon they could cause a bit of havoc imo.

 

[Beeky38]

Second hand but spoke to Northampton Bee - it was a bad, very crackly line and I thought I heard him say something like he thought AS deserved all his plaudits and support after such a decent performance.

Maybe not.... but NB was very complimentary about our display.

You must've dialled a wrong number.

 

[Brentford_till_die]

and who on the left Nick...?

Saunders

 

[Beeky38]

Diving waankers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Boyd, Tomlin, McCann and Miserable-Smith.......how and why do refs fall for it.

Terrible marking for the winner, far too much time for CMS to do his bit.

They dived a lot at Griffin Park as I remember. Cheats :-(

 

[Brentford_till_die]

186 apparently.

Abysmal numbers but good noise. Got a sore throat to prove it !

Thats piss poor, not known a worse support by Bees fans, weve taken more further up north on a Tuesday night for pointless games, sad to see

 

[Voice from the Braemar]

Thats piss poor, not known a worse support by Bees fans, weve taken more further up north on a Tuesday night for pointless games, sad to see

always gonna be a crap turnout for this one....this was 3rd away on trot, midweek, home fri, home mon, exeter away soon, playing crap. no money, no enthusiasm after yeovil etc etc etc etc

 

[NorthamptonBee]

Would you consider starting him on the right on Friday considering the way he ended the game ?

I know you asked him but no way! It worked last night but he has previously looked cack on the right, hopefully some confidence restored and he'll do his thing on the left again.
Scott doesn't read thisor so I'm told, Spillane pushing up helped Weston yesterday but he was up against a LW at LB. A good left back would sort him out IMO.
Players in their correct position please, luckily Scott doesn't read this as he doesn't need any excuse to play people out of position.

 

[sonofabee]

Thats piss poor, not known a worse support by Bees fans, weve taken more further up north on a Tuesday night for pointless games, sad to see

Not denying poor numbers but lots of mitigating circumstances, current form, recent performances, 3 games in 8 days with 2 midweek so difficult to get time off, first full working week back after Xmas in climate, sh*t journey by car, people skint to mention a few. Don't think it's particularly down to AS more a combination of things with so many games piling up.

 

[robBEEh]

A good shout earlier re Lairds set-piece delivery being generally good. It's so important that we make the most of these at present and recently they've been awful.

 

[NorthamptonBee]

A good shout earlier re Lairds set-piece delivery being generally good. It's so important that we make the most of these at present and recently they've been awful.

I thought Laird and Spillane's crossing in the 1st half was brillaint at times, we don't have a forward who likes too many crosses to run onto I'm afraid. Alexander can do this sometimes but his mobility or lack of it makes it difficult, Myles put in some great crosses in the first half but again the keeper was equal to them and we weren't at the races getting on the end of them.
Bean got on the end of one and the keeper looked like he pulled off a right good save.
We have two slow bods who like ball to feet, Simpson is our only natural header who plays up front, I reckon he'd have loved the first half supply.

 

[nick logan]

I know you asked him but no way! It worked last night but he has previously looked cack on the right, hopefully some confidence restored and he'll do his thing on the left again.
Scott doesn't read thisor so I'm told, Spillane pushing up helped Weston yesterday but he was up against a LW at LB. A good left back would sort him out IMO.
Players in their correct position please, luckily Scott doesn't read this as he doesn't need any excuse to play people out of position.

I agree with you mate , just throwing it out there. Bored at work etc. Be nice if carries on like last night on Friday. Weston left , who would you play on the right ?

 

[nick logan]

Not denying poor numbers but lots of mitigating circumstances, current form, recent performances, 3 games in 8 days with 2 midweek so difficult to get time off, first full working week back after Xmas in climate, sh*t journey by car, people skint to mention a few. Don't think it's particularly down to AS more a combination of things with so many games piling up.

Lets hope so mate.

 

[maddogging]

I agree with you mate , just throwing it out there. Bored at work etc. Be nice if carries on like last night on Friday. Weston left , who would you play on the right ?

if AS wants Wright in the team then I would go Wright at right back, and Spillane at right wing. I really like Spillane, and nothing has changed my mind on this since the season has started.

 

[nick logan]

if AS wants Wright in the team then I would go Wright at right back, and Spillane at right wing. I really like Spillane, and nothing has changed my mind on this since the season has started.

Decent shout that although Simpson could play there. Decisions decisions !!

 

[stoney04]

186 fans damn thats terrible. feel bit guilty not going now!

 

[sonofabee]

Given how much better we seemed to play in the few games Sam Saunders played in, I'd try and accomodate him that would probably mean that either Spillane and Simpson would start on the bench. As much as I like Simpson he doesn't seem to be that quick and so not ideal playing off Gary A.

Not sure how I'd set up but probably start with Lee, Spillane, Pim, Karleigh, Woodman, Sam S, Beano, Laird, Myles, Gary Alexander and Charlie/Nicky F

 

[bostonhanwell]

186 apparently.

Abysmal numbers but good noise. Got a sore throat to prove it !

People are voting with their feet.

 

[BOBBYBEE]

A very late defeat which is hard to take, considering we were undoubtedly the better team in the second half. However, as frustrating as it is to lose so late on, it was so pleasing to see that performance; we didn't let heads drop, took the game to them, created chances, fought for the ball and did everything but score.

First half was even, in that we had more possession but they had more chances. Pen looked soft, forward took a touch into a crowd of Bees and was always gonna fall over- and the ref couldnt wait to give it. Cocky 11 chipped it down the middle.

We then woke up and tried to get back into the game. Weston and Spillane put some dangerous crosses in and MacDonald shouldve scored from one, but hit the keeper from 4 yards. They kept breaking and creating but Lee was never troubled.

Second half and a different team came out. We were hungrier and Pim, Beany, KOC, Weston, Charlie and Spillane never gave up running. We began creating chances and Charlie had a clear pen turned down after chasing a loose backpass. To be fair, they also could've had a pen after a cross blatantly hit Spillane's arm.

We then continued to press them but couldn't find an equaliser, with slight deflections and run of the ball going against us. Forster came on and played very well, creating space and winning / holding the ball up. Eventually we put together a move of real purpose and played across from right to left; Woodman crossed and the clearance dropped to Beany 18 yards out. His half volley was saved but rebounded out and 3 Bees were waiting to hammer it home; unfortunately Spillane decided to touch it straight into their keeper and our chance had seemingly gone, but Weston chased it to the right wing, cut inside and hammered a shot into far top corner. His shot hit the post and Laird was on hand to finally touch it home. Fully deserved and a good celebration, ESP with Bean running to the crown.

We then pushed for a winner but it eluded us, with Charlie in particular just failing to connect with a Weston cross. However it wasn't to be and they got a winner through Craig Mackail-Smith's quality and persistence - a scissors kick was blocked so he followed up, cut inside and shot again which was blocked again, then as a cross came in he smashed an overhead kick which was touched in. His class showed in the end, surely they won't hang onto him.

So overall we were unlucky but I'm not disheartened. Yeovil was soul-destroying for its lack of commitment and invention but tonight was very, very different and shows that there is still hope for our season.
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We had loads of possession and hunted the ball down when we didn't have it, which was great to watch. No one can doubt the players' commitment based on that second half.

Could we please have your positive post after every game as I am getting fed up with the doom and gloom brigade. Was at the Yeovil game and although it was pretty dire i was more upset at having to endure the foul mouthed crowd who seem to think that everyone is going to laugh at whatever they shout out. Exeter fans are not going to turn up in numbers on a Friday night and someone is going to get a backlash score very soon.

 

[North London Bee]

Just seen the highlights and never mind the second goal, the first was a total cockup from our throw deep in our half where we just gave the ball away and then watched the runners before diving in with an illjudged tackle - terrible defending.

 

[The Pipe]

Could we please have your positive post after every game as I am getting fed up with the doom and gloom brigade. Was at the Yeovil game and although it was pretty dire i was more upset at having to endure the foul mouthed crowd who seem to think that everyone is going to laugh at whatever they shout out. Exeter fans are not going to turn up in numbers on a Friday night and someone is going to get a backlash score very soon.

All entitled to their views on the game which differ depending to a degree upon expectations and experience. Yeovil was dire lacking pace ambition and skill. Agree the nobs getting wound up were doing nothing for team morale however they were probably just totaly frustrated with what was on offer.
As far as I am concerned there are some whose reports I value and others who I gloss over if I was not there myself to make my own opinions. Would love to have positive reports however if I see a rubbish performance then that is what I will say, equally if I feel that there were signs of positivity then I will say so. As for doom and gloom unfortunately that to a degree is based upon what is served up on the pitch and if you look at our home form it does not make good reading,

 

[Brentford_till_die]

Just seen the highlights and never mind the second goal, the first was a total cockup from our throw deep in our half where we just gave the ball away and then watched the runners before diving in with an illjudged tackle - terrible defending.

wheres the highlights?

 

[North London Bee]

wheres the highlights?

Beesplayer

 

[nick logan]

Thats piss poor, not known a worse support by Bees fans, weve taken more further up north on a Tuesday night for pointless games, sad to see

Just checked, we had more at Swindon in the JPT.

 

[beedeleted]

For me last night was soulness. No atmosphere. Freezing night. Yup better than yoevil but would struggle not to be. Neither the effort nor the skill from us was acceptable. I think it is simple that the players dont really want to play for Scott. Yet again substitutions wrong and late. Team selection wrong. We have a manager who is looking out for a new job each week and this must affect the players. He criticises them for giving each goal away but I dont seem to read that he admits any fault of his own?

 

[JTofBFC]

Lots of criticism on here of the away attendance.

So who's fault is that.

1. Is it the fault of the individuals who didn't go - if so isn't it a right to go not a duty !!
2. Is it the fault of the bees fans collectively for not being loyal - see above.
3. Is it the economy and the fact it was a cold Tuesday night in January - partly !
4. Is it just that people are getting bored by our turgid tactics. Some individuals who would normally have gone and other individuals who would have gone if their regular travelling companions could be bothered - almost certainly.

Home attendances down, away attendances down, wait till Friday and Monday for new lows on the attendance front.

Something has got to give.

 

[WarrenBee]

Lots of criticism on here of the away attendance.

So who's fault is that.

1. Is it the fault of the individuals who didn't go - if so isn't it a right to go not a duty !!
2. Is it the fault of the bees fans collectively for not being loyal - see above.
3. Is it the economy and the fact it was a cold Tuesday night in January - partly !
4. Is it just that people are getting bored by our turgid tactics. Some individuals who would normally have gone and other individuals who would have gone if their regular travelling companions could be bothered - almost certainly.

Home attendances down, away attendances down, wait till Friday and Monday for new lows on the attendance front.

Something has got to give.

Can't argue with that. I would have gone last night, but having done Bournemouth and Yeovil I just couldn't justify it. If that makes me a bad supporter well so be it.

 

[WisBee]

Scott is blaming mistakes by Forster, Osborne and Bean as to why we conceded late in the game. http://www.hounslowchronicle.co.uk/...-stupid-bees-after-posh-loss-109642-27971663/

I suspect that he is totally correct in that we seemed to have been headless chickens in the last couple of minutes.

......................but does wonders for morale, does it not - AS certainly has previous 'form' in this matter, he should have learned by now that what he says in the dressing room should bloody well stay in the dressing room - and he might also consider reflecting in the mirror once in a while, and whilst he's at it, thinking on on the tactics that he often seems to enjoy using.............................

 

[Plymouth Bee]

It's a fun way of saying we passed and moved a bit, it was more tippy tappy than anyone could have dreamed of. We have been shocking since Soton, I thought they won back a bit of self respect after Yeovil tonight, we're Brentford fans and we know how to lose, it doesn't require people in Paris or Plymouth to remind us of that. All we need is a performance, if that performance yields points then all is good.

Thanks NB. That's all I want too. With the greatest of respect, you veered away from that a week or so ago, which is why I posted what I did.

Let's hope for a good result against Exeter on Friday.

 

[Les Beeavinu]

......................but does wonders for morale, does it not - AS certainly has previous 'form' in this matter, he should have learned by now that what he says in the dressing room should bloody well stay in the dressing room - and he might also consider reflecting in the mirror once in a while, and whilst he's at it, thinking on on the tactics that he often seems to enjoy using.............................

Every week you will hear a dozen managers saying things like "we switched off", "gave away a soft goal", "didn't defend properly", "missed our chances" etc etc etc. Why is Andy Scott any different? Or is it just a case that whatever he says will be turned against him somehow?

 

[Les Beeavinu]

A tweet from Nicky Forster - "Gutted with the way we lost last night sometimes you get punished for the one thing wrong you do !" Does that sound like somebody taking umbrage with unfair criticism from the manager or someone accepting a level of responsibility?

 

[GP200]

.............yep,a far better performance than Yeovil and Muff,just a shame they stole it at the end....................................shame to see the away stand sparse......upwards and onwards..............................

 

[stano]

Was laird or bean on the wing

 

[WisBee]

Scott is blaming mistakes by Forster, Osborne and Bean as to why we conceided late in the game. http://www.hounslowchronicle.co.uk/...-stupid-bees-after-posh-loss-109642-27971663/

Icsuspect that he is totally correct in that we seemed to have been headless chickens in the last couple of minutes.

Every week you will hear a dozen managers saying things like "we switched off", "gave away a soft goal", "didn't defend properly", "missed our chances" etc etc etc. Why is Andy Scott any different? Or is it just a case that whatever he says will be turned against him somehow?

..........................................there's a world of difference between 'we switched off' and 'Karleigh/Nicky/Beany (you choose the culprit) fukced up because he/they did/didn't do xyz' - surprised you don't understand that, but hey ho...............................

 

[WisBee]

A tweet from Nicky Forster - "Gutted with the way we lost last night sometimes you get punished for the one thing wrong you do !" Does that sound like somebody taking umbrage with unfair criticism from the manager or someone accepting a level of responsibility?

...................................which one do you think?........................

 

[North London Bee]

Having seen our defending now for both goals I can well understand why the manager was incandescent and I thought his comments were reasonable

 

[Kettering Bee]

Every week you will hear a dozen managers saying things like "we switched off", "gave away a soft goal", "didn't defend properly", "missed our chances" etc etc etc. Why is Andy Scott any different? Or is it just a case that whatever he says will be turned against him somehow?

If Scott had to do it then the form of words that you suggest would have been ok. The word 'we' suggests collective responsibility. But he had to personalise it. How about " Karleigh's given away a cheap free kick, but he's young lad and possibly the best central defender in this division"?

 

[Brentford_till_die]

Was laird or bean on the wing

Laird

 

[maddogging]

Having seen our defending now for both goals I can well understand why the manager was incandescent and I thought his comments were reasonable

their winner is just typical Brentford. How on earth didn't we clear the ball !!

 

[Les Beeavinu]

If Scott had to do it then the form of words that you suggest would have been ok. The word 'we' suggests collective responsibility. But he had to personalise it. How about " Karleigh's given away a cheap free kick, but he's young lad and possibly the best central defender in this division"?

Scott against Southampton when asked a question about Karleigh:
But defensively I think the goalkeeper and the back four were absolutely fantastic. The plan where we spoke about how to deal with Lambert and their wide players worked very well. The balls they did put in the box were dealt with terrifically well.

Scott against Dagenham when asked a question about Forster
Yes, he lost it twice but came back. Nicky is 37 but he just loves playing football and you can’t keep him off the training ground. He is a very fit lad who works very hard and that is why he is still playing at this level at his age and that is credit to him. I’m more than happy to have him involved with us. I was more than happy to get him to the club, but since I have worked with him I have realised why he played at such a good level for a long time.

We might not like what Scott says but I believe he is very fair and will always credit the players when they have done well.

 

[nick logan]

For me last night was soulness. No atmosphere. Freezing night. Yup better than yoevil but would struggle not to be. Neither the effort nor the skill from us was acceptable. I think it is simple that the players dont really want to play for Scott. Yet again substitutions wrong and late. Team selection wrong. We have a manager who is looking out for a new job each week and this must affect the players. He criticises them for giving each goal away but I dont seem to read that he admits any fault of his own?

I didn't see any lack of effort and i thought the last 25 mins we were very good. Oh well opinions eh ? Sub was Forster and he did quite well i thought.

" Looking out for another job each week " He has applied for one at a much bigger club, whats wrong with that ? I wish i could get a better job.

 

[Bigbee]

wheres the highlights?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_div_2/9354151.stm

 

[BuzzBeeSi]

Having seen our defending now for both goals I can well understand why the manager was incandescent and I thought his comments were reasonable

I can understand why the manager is incandescent, but I can understand why the supporters are too - after all it was the manager who went out of his way to sign Pim, and IMHO he has been a bit of a liability in defence.

 

[nick logan]

Lots of criticism on here of the away attendance.

So who's fault is that.

1. Is it the fault of the individuals who didn't go - if so isn't it a right to go not a duty !!
2. Is it the fault of the bees fans collectively for not being loyal - see above.
3. Is it the economy and the fact it was a cold Tuesday night in January - partly !
4. Is it just that people are getting bored by our turgid tactics. Some individuals who would normally have gone and other individuals who would have gone if their regular travelling companions could be bothered - almost certainly.

Home attendances down, away attendances down, wait till Friday and Monday for new lows on the attendance front.

Something has got to give.

Well it can't be 4 as we have played well in lots of away games this year, so i would say 3.

Well worded question by the way , not loaded at all .

 

[nick logan]

I can understand why the manager is incandescent, but I can understand why the supporters are too - after all it was the manager who went out of his way to sign Pim, and IMHO he has been a bit of a liability in defence.

Well lots on here were screaming for Pim despite Leon playing well.

 

[BuzzBeeSi]

Well lots on here were screaming for Pim despite Leon playing well.

Regardless of what the supporters' amateur opinion is, the manager gets paid to sign the right players and pick the right starting XI.

 

[maddogging]

I like Pim, but crazy tackle for the penalty. Peeps that were there, how did he play the rest of the game though..?

 

[nick logan]

Regardless of what the supporters' amateur opinion is, the manager gets paid to sign the right players and pick the right starting XI.

He did, Leon is injured so Pim came in.