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http://mobile.brentfordfc.co.uk/news/article/ipswich-match-report-29.7.13-951252.aspx
http://www.brentfordfc.co.uk/news/article/milk-cup-2013-day-one-950737.aspx
There's more content to follow tonight and every day.
Brentford is one of the few clubs sending people out there to cover the tournament.
Newport Pagnell Bee
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Good coverage indeed! Just watched the highlights of BFC's hammering of Ipwich. Outstanding football played by the young Bees. Some of the passing at pace was exceptional.
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Join @natcoombs on @talkSPORTKO from 8pm. Scouting special with Jamie Johnson, Millwall chief scout & Ose Aibangee, Brentford Academy Director
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Listened to it in the car on the way home from work. What a great piece of PR work it was. Ose came over really well and the two presenters were bigging up Brentford nearly ever other sentence. Send the best kids to the BEES.
The future is bright and it's Brentford. One of the presenters was going on about a goal scored by one of the juniors in a game he watched, a proper centre Forward, his name was Courtney. Courtney Senior I think. All good stuff
The future is bright and it's Brentford. One of the presenters was going on about a goal scored by one of the juniors in a game he watched, a proper centre Forward, his name was Courtney. Courtney Senior I think. All good stuff
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Yep. Good interview. Ose came over really well and is a credit to BFC. Over 100 scouts in the south east.
Les Beeavinu
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I don't know the details so someone might fill this in. Father of one of the boys in my football team has got a really talented 9 year old. Tried out a Reading, QPR, Fulham but now plays in a Berkshire side that is run by Brentford. He said that the coaching is way above anything else offered and he couldn't be happier that his son plays for them. Any clues what the set up there is?
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Mate of mine was saying something very similar about a lad of someone he knows. Think tried Fulham, Reading and Brentford. He chose Brentford because we spent much more time training with the ball compared to the others which focused more on running and fitness work. We seem to be getting this really right, let's just hope the new stadium gets the green light and we can really go places.
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Very soon the academy needs to produce a player worthy of our first team.
As far as I am aware we have only produced one player of note in the past decade.
Harsh but true.
I still have faith BFC will produce.
As far as I am aware we have only produced one player of note in the past decade.
Harsh but true.
I still have faith BFC will produce.
Les Beeavinu
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Understand and agree but I reckon you need to see this set up run 5 years before it starts getting proper results.
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It appears to be an entirely different set up now. Patience is the key.
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I think that player will be Jake Reeves. Within the next season or 2.
Milton Keynes Bee
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Wasn't Reeves a Tottenham Hotspur product? I thought we picked him up after Spurs discarded him.
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Did we? I thought he was ours from the age of 11/12? If he isn't then I stand corrected
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I think he's right that Jake was at Tottenham before us.
Charlie Adams came through the community futsal programme though so I think he's been with us since the age of 8 or something stupid.
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The Academy is still in its infancy and has to be seen as a long term project that is light years ahead of what we had before
Would not expect to see players coming through for a few years yet but would love to follow the Bayern requirement for their Academy which is to produce 2 first team players every season. To produce 2 squad players each season and 2 that will have a reasonable career somewhere else
If we can, in time, try and match that model then the future will be very bright.
At present everything we hear is extremely good and no doubt other clubs will be looking at us very enviousley
Would not expect to see players coming through for a few years yet but would love to follow the Bayern requirement for their Academy which is to produce 2 first team players every season. To produce 2 squad players each season and 2 that will have a reasonable career somewhere else
If we can, in time, try and match that model then the future will be very bright.
At present everything we hear is extremely good and no doubt other clubs will be looking at us very enviousley
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Jake came when he just turned 16 from Spurs.
Charlie Adams will be the first, if he progresses well, since The likes of Karleigh & Darius.
From the current set up, I would've thought that 4-5 years before we see more developing and filling our development squad, instead of 18-20 year olds who have been released from other clubs.
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We also need to be mindful that the bar has been raised in terms of the quality of youngsters that we're purchasing. A tough job for the Academy but I agree that patience is required to see it bear success.
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I absolutely agree that we must have patience with the academy but I have a sneaky suspicion that we might start seeing results before 5 years...
I don't want to put pressure on any of these lads but Charlie Adams, who's already been mentioned, is one I've got high hopes for and anyone who saw him run the game in the FA youth cup last year against Stoke will know the potential he has.
There's also players like George Pilbeam, our youth player of the season last year as a first year and Michael Onovwigun, who I think was the kid that the Liverpool scout was raving about after the Milk Cup a few years ago. He's a second year scholar now as well so these kinds of boys aren't too far off.
We'll know more this season either way as they are starting the under 18's version of the development league this year and we will be playing a higher standard of academy opposition.
Very exciting times ahead though :yes:
I don't want to put pressure on any of these lads but Charlie Adams, who's already been mentioned, is one I've got high hopes for and anyone who saw him run the game in the FA youth cup last year against Stoke will know the potential he has.
There's also players like George Pilbeam, our youth player of the season last year as a first year and Michael Onovwigun, who I think was the kid that the Liverpool scout was raving about after the Milk Cup a few years ago. He's a second year scholar now as well so these kinds of boys aren't too far off.
We'll know more this season either way as they are starting the under 18's version of the development league this year and we will be playing a higher standard of academy opposition.
Very exciting times ahead though :yes:
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I suspect its the players whose names we haven't really heard of or who are being kept hidden who we should be most excited about.
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Your right,and we've already seen results,winning the milk cup last year and getting to the final this year
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Any idea where the team is in Berkshire as my 10 year old has been watched before and Reading seems the only option for him at the moment
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and the DS finished strong in the league (3rd or 4th)just missing out on the semi finals of the competition
Les Beeavinu
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Report in the Independent about Arsenal youth set up has a very nice comment about what BFC are doing .
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...--from-the-owners-to-the-academy-8775289.html
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...--from-the-owners-to-the-academy-8775289.html
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I'm not aware of a "team" in Berkshire with Bees links but I believe readingbee covers the area as a scout for potential bees players in our area?
The Pipe
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Bodes well, start the kids playing passing football and when they become older it will be natural for them. Something that British clubs have sorely neglected in the past
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I remember reading an interview with Arsene Wenger, not that long after he came to England.
He was talking about the schoolboy coaching system he instigated at Nancy(?). Anyhow, he took in a batch of 7 to 8 year olds, who quickly became much better players than the older kids at the club.
The following season they took on a group of 5 to 6 year olds. They were better again, with the key point being that over the next few seasons, the previous year's intake (7 to 8 y.o.s) never made up the difference on the year below them.
Of course, it's not enough to get them young. You also need to coach them properly - which is a whole new story...
taylor339
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Some interesting points you make there but according to this article by Michael Calvin in Monday's Independent article Mr Wenger seems to have forgotten his youth policy in recent years. This has culminated in a number of ex Arsenal staff moving over to Brentford - see extract below....
But it is at Arsenal’s Academy where the real rot has set in. It was rudderless even before Liam Brady signalled his intention to stand down as head of youth development at the end of this season. Enlightened coaches and scouts have been allowed to leave; three, Shaun O’Connor, Miguel Rios and Ose Aibangee, have subsequently established Brentford as one of the most progressive clubs at youth level.
Full article can be reached by following this link http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...--from-the-owners-to-the-academy-8775289.html
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Its magnificent to have the academy and such great staff running it, might have to try and get to some of these yooof games, sounds like we have some real quality.
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hanworthbee
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hopefully some of the youngsters don't get spirited away by big clubs and potentially harm their careers before they've even started.
good luck Jordan I wonder if you'd prefer us not to be that good
good luck Jordan I wonder if you'd prefer us not to be that good
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I'm not sure it is so much a case of AW "forgetting" his Youth Development policy at Arsenal, as of his never actually having one.
When he first came to England, he didn't really try to find and develop the best young British talent, since he won't have had the time at such big club as Arsenal, or the contacts (the money, even) to compete with the other top clubs here. Which explains why virtually no young British players have come all the way through the ranks at the Arse during his time. (Even Wilshere was at Luton Town briefly and Gibbs at Wimbledon before they signed them).
Instead what gave Wenger a competitive edge was his contacts and knowledge of the best Youth Development programmes in Continental Europe and Africa. It was this, for example, which allowed him to steal Fabregas right from under the nose of Barcelona, where he had been on their books from a kid.
Whereas now that many top clubs have foreign owners and have followed the Arse's lead by appointing foreign managers, Wenger no longer has the pick of young overseas talent to himself. To a certain extent he has compensated by buying good young players in their late teens who were on the verge of senior football with other professional clubs here (Walcott, Ramsey, Ox-Chamb, Jenkinson etc), but even that is getting too competitive.
Which is why he is now being virtually forced to splash serious money on established stars in their mid-20's and beyond.
Meanwhile, with all the big English clubs scouring the world for the next Lionel Messi etc, it is open to clubs like Southampton (Walcott, Bale, Ox-Chamb, Shaw) or Palace (Moses, Zaha) to find and develop the best of the young local talent which the big guys are overlooking.
I imagine that that is the niche in the market which MB wants Brentford to move into.
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Slightly off topic, but I think Saints have a fantastic youth set up. Most likely one of the best.
taylor339
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It is certainly encouraging what we are doing about our youth policy though and trying to emulate what clubs like Southampton have been doing is a great example to follow - I am really looking forward to seeing some of the new talent coming through over the next few years, hopefully playing at Lionel Rd.
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spoke to a bloke today who's son is at Watford and 16..he said Brentford is the place to be and the football they place is fantastic..I can hardly get my head around the whispers of the parents who are saying such things about us
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Great result for the Mini Bees today, away against AZ Alkmaar...
AZ Alkmaar 1 vs. Brentford FC 4
This is the same U-17 (or Year 97 as they call it) side that won the Milk Cup for us a couple of years ago.
AZ Alkmaar 1 vs. Brentford FC 4
This is the same U-17 (or Year 97 as they call it) side that won the Milk Cup for us a couple of years ago.
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