Braemar Road

[Mr Cynical]

I arrived about 10 mins late on Sat to be told at the turnstiles that Braemer Road had sold out, I said to the guy "What the entire stand?" and he said yes..

As I legged it round to Brook Road, I thought wow it must be a big crowd today, maybe 7,000. Yet when I actually got in, not only were we already 1 down but there were loads of empty seats in Braemer, even in the paddock which we were led to believe was pretty much sold out before the game...

As it turned out the crowd was less than 6,000 so nothing to get excited about, so I can't understand why Braemer was shut, was it really sold out? If so, what's the capacity now for that side of the ground, I've seen it a lot fuller than that many a time, seems a bit odd to me..

 

[JTofBFC]

Re: Braemer Road

Agree. You would think the club would be doing their utmost to encourage the casual floating fan rather than discouraging.

We have already been told on the official site that the home match v Colchester on Dec 18th will not have any unreserved Braemar seats sold. Although we aren't told why. Presumably they are expecting another bumper pre Xmas crowd of 4500.

Perhaps its also time to get "B" block one of the best viewing places in the stadium back in action too.

I can't think of any other ground I have been too where segregating home fans from away fans costs the home team something like 20% of their capacity.

 

[Boston Bee]

Re: Braemer Road

Rubbish organisation. Rubbish, rubbish, rubbish. No one takes any responsibility, no one seems to correct mistakes so we make them time after time after time.

My story: Before the match I bought a copy of TITS on Braemer Road (and it's really a super edition!) and then went to buy a programmes. First guy didn't have change. For a five pound note. Next guy along? Nope, no change. So I said to hell with it. How many programmes don't they sell because people don't have correct change? How insane is it that the fanzine is a more organised selling body than the official programme?

 

[Waterlooville Bee]

Re: Braemer Road

I know it was on the OS all week about reserved seating for Braemar Rd but yesterday was a shambles.
5 turnstiles for home fans....3 of which were ticket only, with 1 each for E Block & the paddock.
Ridiculous......no queues at 3 turnstiles and a mass queue for E Block.

I can understand the reasons for specific tickets for specific seats but surely more turnstiles for cash on the day would have been far more useful than an abundance of ticket only turnstiles.

 

[Nick Hester]

Re: Braemer Road

. How many programmes don't they sell because people don't have correct change? How insane is it that the fanzine is a more organised selling body than the official programme?

Thanks for the compliment!
It is a joke though when the programme sellers aren't holding the thing up, not shouting 'Programme' and have no change!!

Makes sales of TITS better though..

 

[Boston Bee]

Re: Braemer Road

And far better value for money anyway. Complements on the Terry Evans interview - quality.

Makes sales of TITS better though..

 

[West Wilts Bee]

Re: Braemer Road

Wrong thread I know, just like to echo Bostons sentiment on TITS ,. Firet class article on the great Terry Evans.

 

[Waterlooville Bee]

Re: Braemer Road

Greenholme...not being sure whether my subscription had run out, I bought a copy and then bloody lost it somewhere during the game.
Had only read the first page of the Big Tel interview and all.
Capped a pretty sh*te day all in all, nightmare journey up for the game, shambles getting in, joke ref, ****y defeat and a nightmare journey back to sunny Pompey.
:mad1:

 

[Bigbee]

Re: Braemer Road

nothing to do with Braemer,I was in New Rd ,expecting it to be full .Anyway,I left five to ten minutes before half time to get a burger,pie or what ever as I was starving.What sort of mongs are employed here?I waited and waited,the organisation is complete s hit.How can you put six 15to 16 year old kids in the kiosk and expect them the know time management let alone cook a turd burger or make sure the pies/pasties are in the heaters way before they are needed.I gave up in the end .pants ! How long have Roys family and mates sorrry ,pants caterers got the contract?

 

[PJ]

Re: Braemer Road

My story: Before the match I bought a copy of TITS on Braemer Road (and it's really a super edition!) and then went to buy a programmes. First guy didn't have change. For a five pound note. Next guy along? Nope, no change. So I said to hell with it. How many programmes don't they sell because people don't have correct change? How insane is it that the fanzine is a more organised selling body than the official programme?

Completely agree. Left Stripes at 12:30 and bought a programme in the club shop. Luckily I had the right money in loose change which saved any complications with this hugely complex transaction..

The person behind me had a £10 note.

Response from the counter "have you got the right money?"

Reply - "Sorry, have only got a note".

Bearing in mind i`d already handed over £2-50 in "convenient" currency they only needed a fiver to square the sale. The person with me would buy a proggy down the road, or later on, but to not have a basic float when basically the shop had not long open is so amateurish it defies belief.

I walked away half-thinking "its Brentford innit" but why the hell do we think like that. We shouldnt think like that, how basic is the example i`ve just given. It`s pi$$ poor service, no other phrase for it.

These little things are the important things in many respects - the things alluded to in TITS. Are we the fans to blame in a way though, for half expecting such service and secondly for accepting it without even a polite rebuff for the people turning £2-50 away because they don`t have any change. (They had £2-50 in change so only needed a £5 note).

It`s these sort of fundamental simplicities which have always let BFC down; such utterly basic things should be eradicated without delay. There is no reason why it should be like that.

 

[Baz Bee]

Re: Braemer Road

nothing to do with Braemer,I was in New Rd ,expecting it to be full .Anyway,I left five to ten minutes before half time to get a burger,pie or what ever as I was starving.What sort of mongs are employed here?I waited and waited,the organisation is complete s hit.How can you put six 15to 16 year old kids in the kiosk and expect them the know time management let alone cook a turd burger or make sure the pies/pasties are in the heaters way before they are needed.I gave up in the end .pants ! How long have Roys family and mates sorrry ,pants caterers got the contract?

Be interesting to know whether these “catering professionals” have the requisite Food Hygene Certificates that they are required by law to hold before serving the public food? Most do not seem to have the intelligence to spell Hygene, let alone obtian the certificate!!
lol

 

[WarrenBee]

Re: Braemer Road

Completely agree. Left Stripes at 12:30 and bought a programme in the club shop. Luckily I had the right money in loose change which saved any complications with this hugely complex transaction..

The person behind me had a £10 note.

Response from the counter "have you got the right money?"

Reply - "Sorry, have only got a note".

Bearing in mind i`d already handed over £2-50 in "convenient" currency they only needed a fiver to square the sale. The person with me would buy a proggy down the road, or later on, but to not have a basic float when basically the shop had not long open is so amateurish it defies belief.

I walked away half-thinking "its Brentford innit" but why the hell do we think like that. We shouldnt think like that, how basic is the example i`ve just given. It`s pi$$ poor service, no other phrase for it.

These little things are the important things in many respects - the things alluded to in TITS. Are we the fans to blame in a way though, for half expecting such service and secondly for accepting it without even a polite rebuff for the people turning £2-50 away because they don`t have any change. (They had £2-50 in change so only needed a £5 note).

It`s these sort of fundamental simplicities which have always let BFC down; such utterly basic things should be eradicated without delay. There is no reason why it should be like that.

If the club were still in charge of selling the programmes rather than selling the franchise to some out sourced company,I wonder if this sort of thing would happen?

:mad2: :mad2: :mad2: :mad2: :mad2: :mad2:

 

[Nick Hester]

Re: Braemer Road

Greenholme...not being sure whether my subscription had run out, I bought a copy and then bloody lost it somewhere during the game.
Had only read the first page of the Big Tel interview and all.
Capped a pretty sh*te day all in all, nightmare journey up for the game, shambles getting in, joke ref, ****y defeat and a nightmare journey back to sunny Pompey.
:mad1:

One in the Post to you tomorrow morning as we only picked the copies up from the printers on Saturday!

 

[PJ]

Re: Braemer Road

If the club were still in charge of selling the programmes rather than selling the franchise to some out sourced company,I wonder if this sort of thing would happen?

:mad2: :mad2: :mad2: :mad2: :mad2: :mad2:

Never mind that Warren, I was appalled to see that in 2004 the powers that be at TITS towers have still not provided cagoules (sp?)
for their faithful sales team who only seem to sell fanzines when its pi$$ing down

 

[FarnhamBee]

Re: Braemer Road

Most do not seem to have the intelligence to spell Hygene, let alone obtian the certificate!!
lol

You did that on purpose - right?

 

[WarrenBee]

Re: Braemer Road

Never mind that Warren, I was appalled to see that in 2004 the powers that be at TITS towers have still not provided cagoules (sp?)
for their faithful sales team who only seem to sell fanzines when its pi$$ing down

Don't even go there PJ,I am going down with Flu even as I type this.If I ever find out where TITS Towers is there is going to be big mother fu****g trouble.

 

[Waterlooville Bee]

Re: Braemer Road

One in the Post to you tomorrow morning as we only picked the copies up from the printers on Saturday!

Gawd bless ya.

 

[BoroBee]

Sorry to rub it in, but there were definitely plenty of spare seats in the Paddock yesterday. Two people who had bought tickets at the turnstile sat next to us (ST holders), but they had room to move along the row at half-time because there was so much space.

 

[davewfilms]

i always sit in paddock put the brentford web site said on saturday morning there was only 160 seats left so i sat in brook rd seats put paddock was half empty so what's that all about.

 

[Brickie Chap]

Is Roy King still in charge of the ground Why does he still have a job when he cant even get the basics right

Some of us were asked to give him yet more time to settle in and prove himself, well sorry, but times up, it should be goodbye to Mr King

 

[davewfilms]

sent club email regarding seating in paddock on saturday roy king replied saying "On Friday night we had less than 100 paddock tickets left in the areas that are open. We do not sell the area immediately in front of B Block or the visiting supporters in A Block. This is for safety reasons. If we were to use that area for home supporters our stewarding and police bill would be increased dramatically."
"That is why the paddock at the East end looks empty."

makes sense i suppose.

 

[rebus]

I arrived about 10 mins late on Sat to be told at the turnstiles that Braemer Road had sold out, I said to the guy "What the entire stand?" and he said yes..

I suspect that the cash turnstile operators had shut for the Braemar Road stand by that time. The Club does not have "late gate" tickets for the Braemar Road stand, only for New and Brook Road.

He was incorrect therefore to tell you that it was sold out. The empty seats are also due to the fact that some paddock Season Ticket holders did not attend the game.

P.S. Don't shoot the messenger!

 

[Boston Bee]

rofl

Good policy

rofl

I suspect that the cash turnstile operators had shut for the Braemar Road stand by that time. The Club does not have "late gate" tickets for the Braemar Road stand, only for New and Brook Road.

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[Magenta]

:shrug: Half the paddock were probably in Stripes after 20 mins!

 

[WarrenBee]

Re: Braemer Road

Never mind that Warren, I was appalled to see that in 2004 the powers that be at TITS towers have still not provided cagoules (sp?)

Did you notice that Greenholme was wearing one though?One rule for them and one rule for me.


:shrug: :shrug: :shrug: :shrug:

 

[SamBee]

roy king replied "That is why the paddock at the East end looks empty.".

the east end of thesouth stand, or is it the west stand? thought he woud have learnt theground by now the muppet !

 

[JTofBFC]

sent club email regarding seating in paddock on saturday roy king replied saying "On Friday night we had less than 100 paddock tickets left in the areas that are open. We do not sell the area immediately in front of B Block or the visiting supporters in A Block. This is for safety reasons. If we were to use that area for home supporters our stewarding and police bill would be increased dramatically."
"That is why the paddock at the East end looks empty."

makes sense i suppose.

Makes sense !!!!!!!!

so let me get this straight then.

For segregation reasons we dont sell:

Any of "B" Block in Braemar Rd.

Any of the Paddock seats in front of "B" Block.

Any of the paddock seats in front of "A" Block".

Any of the New Rd seats covered by the tarpaulin. (even though that side of Ealign Rd is usually sectioned off).

I'm amazed we manage to fit more than 6000 in the ground to be honest.

Is all this really necessary? Cant think of any other clubs that go to such great extents to have a 50 yard exclusion zone around the away fans !!

 

[rock_on_u_bees]

odd, few mates of mine came just before K.O and got tickets for braemer road no probelm

 

[philip turner]

hard to believe the club are short of stewards. the place is usually swarming with yellow jackets although possibly it did look less overrun with them last saturday than usual.

and from where i was sitting braemar road looked emptier than it normally does, there were several rows completely empty. the club needs to urgently review arrangements for braemar road, where you still cannot guarantee to get in unless you have a season ticket (which i do at long last). last season several times i arrived more than half an hour before kick off to be refused entry to braemar and it is disappointing to hear things have still not been sorted out.

maybe the club could fix it by appealing for some volunteer stewards, if they are needing to cut operating costs further.

 

[Brain-dead Bee]

Is all this really necessary? Cant think of any other clubs that go to such great extents to have a 50 yard exclusion zone around the away fans !!

Given the class of some of the away fans we get, I'm not sure 50 yards is enough: a one mile exclusion zone (Kew Bridge, Syon Lane, Boston Manor) would seem more appropriate

 

[SC]

so is it still a case of pre-booking only for the Paddock/Braemar Road ?

 

[The Walrus]

so is it still a case of pre-booking only for the Paddock/Braemar Road ?

think so

 

[SC]

I do too


I just hoped the club may have changed their minds in the light of some of the recent attendances. As for the Paddock being full / nearly full - utter bs. People can move from one end to the other depending on which way we're kicking. If I get bored, I've got more than enough space to lie down over several seats and have a kip.

If i can make it to the game, I want to sit with family/friends. As I quite often don't know until the last minute nowadays whether i can make it or not this new ruling means I simply don't go.

 

[CJC]

The empty seats could be season ticket holders who don't make it on a Tuesday night?

Besides the Braemar Road is sh*te, and has been since they seated the paddock.

 

[SC]

The empty seats could be season ticket holders who don't make it on a Tuesday night?

Besides the Braemar Road is sh*te, and has been since they seated the paddock.

There's a hell of a lot of season ticket holders then who never turn up.

I don't think so

 

[CJC]

I don't know I haven't been there for a league match in about 7 years. Just guessing like. If the crowd is likely to be big go in at 2.15pm and get a pint in Stripes or something.

 

[SC]

another Braemar Road sell out today I believe

 

[Wee Dave]

another Braemar Road sell out today I believe

Aye, and if there were 6,300 punters in there today I'm a Dutchman. Which I'm not.

 

[rebus]

Aye, and if there were 6,300 punters in there today I'm a Dutchman. Which I'm not.

You are correct as 6,300 were not present at GP. It seems a large proportion of Season Ticket holders did not attend Monday's game.

 

[nocoat]

that rings true, e.g - paulo (the opera queen), paulos birds brother, magenta and braemar bloke all had season tickets sitting at home in the draw... thats four off the top of my head

 

[Banana]

You are correct as 6,300 were not present at GP. It seems a large proportion of Season Ticket holders did not attend Monday's game.

or they forgot them............

 

[beezy babe]

The Paddock was a joke yesterday. My parents turned up at 2.30 (having bought their tickets in advance) and there weren't two seats together anywhere. In the end they had to persuade a steward to let them sit in the disabled section until I managed to move some people around to make space.

 

[BoroBee]

There certainly should have been at least two free seats together in the Paddock because MrsBoroBee and myself were upstairs taking advantage of the hospitality offered by the Sponsors' Lounge package.

BTW - highly recommended!

 

[DOD]

Had no chance beforehand to order a ticket, so got there at 2:30 to find that only one turnstile in Braemar Road had any tickets - and he was moaning like f**k

Glad to see that all the recent lessons about ticket balls-ups have now been learnt....NOT !

How on Earth will this shower perform if we manage to go up ? - the mind boggles !!!!

 

[SmiffyBee]

Had no chance beforehand to order a ticket, so got there at 2:30 to find that only one turnstile in Braemar Road had any tickets - and he was moaning like f**k

Glad to see that all the recent lessons about ticket balls-ups have now been learnt....NOT !

How on Earth will this shower perform if we manage to go up ? - the mind boggles !!!!

then get a season ticket next season or get there earlier...its not rocket science, take some responsibility yourself !

 

[chippendale]

I had the same problem, being shunted along the turnstiles till I got to one that was open, E block only.

I would love to have a season ticket but only get to a couple of matches a year so it's thru the turnstiles and pay on the day.

 

[Gee Bee]

then get a season ticket next season or get there earlier...its not rocket science, take some responsibility yourself !

What sort of answer is that. Not everyone can get season tickets and lets not forget we are trying to attract floating supporters. We want people to turn up on the gate. I also do not think that 2.30 is to late to get to a game!! Every turnstile should be available to sell on the day until kick off time. Its not rocket science, it good ticketing efficiency!!

 

[SC]

then get a season ticket next season or get there earlier...its not rocket science, take some responsibility yourself !

IT WAS NOT SOLD OUT and unlikely to be either so why should we take any responsibility in this instance. Surely Brentford has a responsibility to print out enough tickets - rocket science eh !!!

A group of us got tickets for E block after being moved from one turnstile to the next and then just sauntered into the Paddock to where we normally sit where there were plenty of seats available as normal.

 

[Banana]

A group of us got tickets for E block after being moved from one turnstile to the next and then just sauntered into the Paddock to where we normally sit where there were plenty of seats available as normal.

You naughty boys. Meanwhile people with tickets for the Paddock couldn't find seats.

 

[SmiffyBee]

Ok....all I am saying is

HELP YOUR CLUB OUT BY GETTING THERE EARLIER...

we are not Chelsea, we are Brentford, we need all supporters to be aware of this, get to the ground 10 minutes earlier and expect to q.