Bryan Mbeumo

[Banana]

Placeholder for any interest...

feel free to add to thread with any "news".

 

[Artixbee]

Would be amazed if Bryan went anywhere. Don't think this thread is even necessary.

 

[North London Bee]

No chance. Anyone interested would also offer us a fraction of what he will be worth in 12 months

 

[Les Beeavinu]

Placeholder for any interest...

feel free to add to thread with any "news".

Don't see the point of this one. If there is speculation fair enough but we might as we have a thread for every player - which we have anyway

 

[Bangor Bee]

Surely we will hang on to Bryan: his value will appreciate considerably in the coming season (or two), so it would make no sense to sell now. Plus we need to keep at least one of our star forwards.

 

[grutter]

Don't see the point of this one. If there is speculation fair enough but we might as we have a thread for every player - which we have anyway

Agree. Waking up this morning to goodness knows how many threads, which make it look like half the team's being sold with another half coming in when there is no decent speculation on the vast majority is daft imo. For Watkins & Benrahma, surely their existing threads can be used? (with the title amended & the famed 'GPG rating').

Maybe the other threads can be re-enacted once there is something more concrete? The likelihood is these threads will disappear without trace after a couple of days (there will be no speculation), so there will be nothing to put on them.

 

[jlove]

Don't see the point of this one. If there is speculation fair enough but we might as we have a thread for every player - which we have anyway

Only that it can be deleted in a few weeks' time.

 

[jbee]

OUTGOING SPECULATION Bryan Mbeumo

Leicester interested according to a report from France: https://www.footmercato.net/a7789561710280655444-leicester-sinteresse-a-bryan-mbeumo

It's a tricky one. Do we say "Not for Sale" or "That'll be £40m, please"?

 

[Banana]

From that link above:

"Author of a good first season in the Championship (English D2) with Brentford (15 goals and 7 assists), Bryan Mbeumo (21) could be one of the attractions this summer. The former Troyes striker, revelation in Ligue 2 the previous season (10 goals in 35 matches), favored an intermediate club before making the big jump in the Premier League. This was the case this year with Brentford, who narrowly missed the rise among the elite. His performances obviously did not leave the clubs recruiting cells on the upper floor indifferent.

"Very attentive to players who have passed through France (the club has Fousseini Diabaté, Adrien Silva, Nampalys Mendy and Ricardo Pereira who went through Nice), Leicester has been particularly interested in recent days in the Mbeumo file. The 5th in the Premier League is convinced that the profile of a powerful, fast and creative player in the one-on-one of the international Espoirs tricolor fits perfectly with the characteristics of his team."

 

[Mr Cynical]

oh god...

 

[red_and_white]

They might well make an enquiry, but I'd be surprised if this one happens.

From our point of view we have a year or two before he liklely hits top value in his contract, so won't sell on the cheap.

It's too much of a gamble for them to go big in spending here.

 

[Bangor Bee]

I'd say "Not for sale". His value will rise further, and it would be foolish to let all three front players go.

 

[wanderer paul]

£30m. Thank you.

That’ll be nearly £100m then for Ollie, Saïd and Bryan.

 

[Les Beeavinu]

It'll take a lot to persuade us to sell a player after just one year.

 

[Ashford Bees]

It'll take a lot to persuade us to sell a player after just one year.

£30m will certainly soften the blow.

 

[Doovster]

It'll take a lot to persuade us to sell a player after just one year.

I agree. It would have to be a ridiculously high bid and I don't see Leicester offering silly money for BM after one season. I think we will be happy to cash in on Said and Oli, reinvest well, and move forwards from there with an even stronger base to build from.

 

[Les Beeavinu]

£30m will certainly soften the blow.

I imagine clubs would like to get in before he's worth £30m!

 

[GP200]

It'll take a lot to persuade us to sell a player after just one year.

..........just had Konsa on the phone..........

 

[Mr Cynical]

..........just had Konsa on the phone..........

didn't he have a release clause?

 

[ruislip bee]

didn't he have a release clause?

No he's still at Villa......

 

[Beecareful]

Who knows, maybe a smokescreen for their interest in our other forwards.

 

[Gee Bee]

Who knows, maybe a smokescreen for their interest in our other forwards.

or left back

 

[Invipai]

We don't need to sell all three of our front three, and Bryan has only been here for one year so I imagine he'd be the one to stay.

I think the club also knows that his value will likely be a lot higher next summer after another year here (and possibly being more in the spotlight with Said likely out of the picture). If we sell then we sell, but I'm not convinced it's the best decision for us now.

 

[clarkeeuk99]

didn't he have a release clause?

Yes he did. Smith activated it the second they got promoted.

 

[Vid]

He’s not on the auction site.

 

[Gazza Bee]

Can't see this one - trying to replace all of BMW would surely be even beyond our DoF's If we sell Ollie and Benrahma I don't see we have to sell Mbuemo too at any price (except £30m+ which would never happen anyway)

 

[TadB]

didn't he have a release clause?

Do. you know that Mbeumo doe not have one? Whatever, lets hope that Leicester do not attempt to unsettle him. He was right off his usual performances post lock Down.

 

[BEEcool]

I like Bryan and think think he's going to get even better than he already is but for £30M .........................I'd drive him there myself.

 

[Mr Cynical]

I like Bryan and think think he's going to get even better than he already is but for £30M .........................I'd drive him there myself.

would you? I wouldn't.. Assuming we lose Watkins and Benhrama, that's going to be enough upheaval up front without having to replace Mbuemo too. We need to keep as much continuity as possible whilst bringing in some improvements/quality replacements here and there.. Mbuemo's got so much more scope to improve it's scary.

 

[jlove]

IMHO, at the moment, Bryan is the most natural Ollie Replacement that we have. Power, pace, good positioning and a decent shot on him.

 

[jbee]

I like Bryan and think think he's going to get even better than he already is but for £30M .........................I'd drive him there myself.

I wouldn't but it's a moot point as nobody is going to pay that. Leicester probably want to try their luck before his value really soars but that is exactly why we shouldn't sell. Also we can be fairly certain Said and Ollie will leave so Bryan's price, if he has one, will go up accordingly. Pretty relaxed about this one.

 

[bee good]

Sources seem to be a bit clickbaity

 

[BEEcool]

I wouldn't but it's a moot point as nobody is going to pay that. Leicester probably want to try their luck before his value really soars but that is exactly why we shouldn't sell. Also we can be fairly certain Said and Ollie will leave so Bryan's price, if he has one, will go up accordingly. Pretty relaxed about this one.

Yep, I agree - moot point in reality.

I guess what I'm saying is, if there was £30M on the table I'd be thinking that was sufficient to buy his potential as it currently stands. I probably sound like I don't rate him (I do) but in my opinion the spectrum of where his career could end up is still very wide. This season is a big one for him and I hope he does well (again).

 

[thickobee]

..........just had Konsa on the phone..........

New full stop button for the keyboard just arrived?

 

[AB]

IMHO, at the moment, Bryan is the most natural Ollie Replacement that we have. Power, pace, good positioning and a decent shot on him.

He is a bit one footed though...

I wonder whether it might be easier to build a new front 3 (or other formation) than to bring in 2 and fit them around Bryan. If we get an offer around £20m plus add ons and sell ons that’s remarkable work. Even before incomings we have Canos, Fosu, Forss, Valencia, Dervisoglu, and given the right run of games, coaching and supply that’s a pretty strong set at this level.

A few months of opponents thinking “hah, they’ve sold 60+ goals worth of forwards, they’ll not be much threat” and thus deciding not to park the bus won’t hurt.

 

[Guildford Bee]

He is a bit one footed though...

I wonder whether it might be easier to build a new front 3 (or other formation) than to bring in 2 and fit them around Bryan. If we get an offer around £20m plus add ons and sell ons that’s remarkable work. Even before incomings we have Canos, Fosu, Forss, Valencia, Dervisoglu, and given the right run of games, coaching and supply that’s a pretty strong set at this level.

A few months of opponents thinking “hah, they’ve sold 60+ goals worth of forwards, they’ll not be much threat” and thus deciding not to park the bus won’t hurt.

I’m not sure any of those you mentioned are anywhere near the current front three. Trying to replace all three with any combination of them wouldn’t go well, IMO.

I can’t see Mbuemo going...

 

[Gazza Bee]

He is a bit one footed though...

I wonder whether it might be easier to build a new front 3 (or other formation) than to bring in 2 and fit them around Bryan. If we get an offer around £20m plus add ons and sell ons that’s remarkable work. Even before incomings we have Canos, Fosu, Forss, Valencia, Dervisoglu, and given the right run of games, coaching and supply that’s a pretty strong set at this level.

A few months of opponents thinking “hah, they’ve sold 60+ goals worth of forwards, they’ll not be much threat” and thus deciding not to park the bus won’t hurt.

You think it'll take a few months before teams realise that we can actually score goals - not sure it would be difficult to work out if we erm, score lots of goals....

 

[JANORAK]

IMHO, at the moment, Bryan is the most natural Ollie Replacement that we have. Power, pace, good positioning and a decent shot on him.

I’ve been thinking this too, recently. You didn’t mention that he’s decent in the air despite not being the tallest. IDC I can just see him bustling though the middle with defenders bouncing off him....

 

[North London Bee]

A year too soon I think.

 

[taxi driver]

A year too soon I think.

You are right....but let them pay next year's money now ?

 

[grutter]

You are right....but let them pay next year's money now ��

No thanks. Money isn't everything, particularly if you don't have time to spend it.

I imagine the DoFs have known and planned for 1-2 years that Watkins & Benrahma would go now and would be at peak value, if we didn't make it to the PL. Therefore, they will have planned ahead for their replacements, which we may see in the next few weeks or indeed, may already be on our books. I doubt very much whether Mbeumo's replacement is that high up the priority list yet. Like Henry, we don't have a replacement and we certainly don't need to sell.

 

[ruislip bee]

No thanks. Money isn't everything, particularly if you don't have time to spend it.

I imagine the DoFs have known and planned for 1-2 years that Watkins & Benrahma would go now and would be at peak value, if we didn't make it to the PL. Therefore, they will have planned ahead for their replacements, which we may see in the next few weeks or indeed, may already be in our books. I doubt very much whether Mbeumo's replacement is that high up the priority list yet. Like Henry, we don't have a replacement and we certainly don't need to sell.

We've already got Canos, Fosu and Valencia who can play wide. Halil and Forss down the middle, and perhaps the Toney bloke too. If the money is right he'll go imo.

 

[Mr Cynical]

We've already got Canos, Fosu and Valencia who can play wide. Halil and Forss down the middle, and perhaps the Toney bloke too. If the money is right he'll go imo.

I think we're expecting even bigger things from Mbuemo, can't see us selling him now.. I can't see Canos, Valencia or Fosu getting 15 goals in a season..

 

[alexcavell]

We've already got Canos, Fosu and Valencia who can play wide. Halil and Forss down the middle, and perhaps the Toney bloke too. If the money is right he'll go imo.

The reason we didn't get promoted last season was because our results weren't good enough in the first 10 games while the new signings settled in.

The same thing happened in the 17/18 season, which I think was our second best squad in the Championship after 19/20.

No matter who we bring in as replacements, they will take time to gel. Our best chance of getting promoted is to gather the cash we need and then basically close the shutters to any further outgoings. The Championship is wide open this year, and we've got a huge chance of the top 2 if we keep this squad together as much as possible.

 

[AB]

The reason we didn't get promoted last season was because our results weren't good enough in the first 10 games while the new signings settled in.

The same thing happened in the 17/18 season, which I think was our second best squad in the Championship after 19/20.

No matter who we bring in as replacements, they will take time to gel. Our best chance of getting promoted is to gather the cash we need and then basically close the shutters to any further outgoings. The Championship is wide open this year, and we've got a huge chance of the top 2 if we keep this squad together as much as possible.

Gelling new players is a problem. However I think that if exits are limited to Ollie and Said (possibly even Bryan) it won’t be nearly as big an issue as last season. Last season we had to adjust to almost the entire team, certainly the spine of it being new or in a new role. Raya, Pinnock, Janssen, Norgaard, Jensen were new and Watkins untested centrally.

Even if we lose all three of BMW the core team behind the front three are there, known, developed after a stellar season and hopefully ready to kick on. If we get Toney we’ll have a central striker who knows the role and will get service. Canos is certainly good enough to support- he hasn’t hit his early heights but is still young and capable of forgotten magic like his set up for Watkins’ goal at Boro. The club clearly rates Fosu, who will have benefited from his sub appearances. I think Halil has a lot of potential as well as 9 months with the squad.

Maybe we won’t get the outrageous that Said provided but that doesn’t mean we’ll be toothless. We could bear scoring a few less if we maintain our defensive mindset and work while adding the ability to grind out results. Turn those 0-1s to 1-1s and I’ll happily take 2-0s instead of 5-0s and we’ll go up.

 

[TadB]

We've already got Canos, Fosu and Valencia who can play wide. Halil and Forss down the middle, and perhaps the Toney bloke too. If the money is right he'll go imo.

If I have remembered correctly Devisoglu played most of his games for Sparta on the left wing. although appearances for the Bees have mostly been down the middle. On your list he is the missing winger, and with Toney two through the middle. It all fits then, but what will happen should Ghoddos and Sommerville turn up for a game?

 

[Indian Bee]

No thanks. Money isn't everything, particularly if you don't have time to spend it.

I imagine the DoFs have known and planned for 1-2 years that Watkins & Benrahma would go now and would be at peak value, if we didn't make it to the PL. Therefore, they will have planned ahead for their replacements, which we may see in the next few weeks or indeed, may already be on our books. I doubt very much whether Mbeumo's replacement is that high up the priority list yet. Like Henry, we don't have a replacement and we certainly don't need to sell.

First of all I still cant believe we signed BM last year. Every club should have known about his stats which was pretty impressive before he joined us. It was a no-brainer to sign him and I have commented separately on his own thread the feedback I had when we signed him. I personally believe he needs that extra year with us before that big move. Then again lets see where we are this time next year. I can't see us selling him this year but the one snag I have is how he will cope without Said and Ollie. More so without Said being a fellow French speaker.

 

[grutter]

First of all I still cant believe we signed BM last year. Every club should have known about his stats which was pretty impressive before he joined us. It was a no-brainer to sign him and I have commented separately on his own thread the feedback I had when we signed him. I personally believe he needs that extra year with us before that big move. Then again lets see where we are this time next year. I can't see us selling him this year but the one snag I have is how he will cope without Said and Ollie. More so without Said being a fellow French speaker.

Well for starters, I think he'll receive more of the ball with Said gone!

 

[TadB]

No thanks. Money isn't everything, particularly if you don't have time to spend it.

I imagine the DoFs have known and planned for 1-2 years that Watkins & Benrahma would go now and would be at peak value, if we didn't make it to the PL. Therefore, they will have planned ahead for their replacements, which we may see in the next few weeks or indeed, may already be on our books. I doubt very much whether Mbeumo's replacement is that high up the priority list yet. Like Henry, we don't have a replacement and we certainly don't need to sell.

"May already be on our books"! This is the salient point, you are right we replace in advance, and I have always been of the impression that Mbeumo was a replacement for Said. The injury to Canos gave him the opportunity to show his worth.

 

[Banana]

Well for starters, I think he'll receive more of the ball with Said gone!

Sigh. Which player had the most assists in the front 3?