Calm before the storm

[Baffled]

There is a change of direction in Noades' tactics these days - and we need to be on our guard.
There's the long silence from him, then the phone call to a fan saying players must go, the Owusu rumours, and Steve Coppell's unease over the lack of back up.
There are also Noades' comments that Housnlow Councuil have agreed to planning permission at GP. Have they? Does he know something we don't? Have brown paper bags been exchanged?
The releasing of Price, which if you believe the PR machine, was all down to the player.
Consider the difference between Sam Hamman and Noades. The one is promoting and pushing his club. The other spends his time conerned solely with profit - at Griffin Park's expense.
The last thing Noades needs is promotion. How can he host the likes of Man C etc at Woking. Especially when there is a fat 25,000,000 windfall when the houses and flats are sold at Griffin Park.
Does anyone seriously think he is selling the ground for the good of Brentford and football? Knock off the £5,000,000 debt he will have run up by then and do you seriously think that the remainder will be for the Bees? Pigs can fly more easily.
Stand by for Noades', in my opinion, imminent moves. You will see his true thinking then.
When they come, we should demo at Hounslow Council, at the ground, at the Football league and Association.

 

[mhead bee]

RN Actually said in the phone call that if we went up we would have to stay at GP!

 

[Voice from the Braemar]

completely agree with u Baffled - this old goat aint to be trused one iota, no matter how some of the more gullible on here r, just cos he phones up with some well prepared PR we're all supposed to think he's all of a sudden a lovely guy with Brentford FC's best intentions at heart??
FACT - he's already said he's had enough of us and wants out - thats all you have to know about where his 'intentions' r and to me we have to be on our guard now more than ever cos what ever he's got planned it will seriously f%^k up what future there is for BFC.

dont say you werent warned(just like the few of us at the beginning of the webb saga eh?!!!)..........................

 

[Gee Bee]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by mhead bee:
RN Actually said in the phone call that if we went up we would have to stay at GP!</font>

No doubt this Phone Call will be denied at some stage.
"Last one out turn the lights off".

 

[Edmundo]

Baffled, you sound like you write for Private Eye!

But have you any suggestions about what should be done?

 

[BIAS]

BIAS has written to both Martin Lange and Ron Noades in the last few days to seek clarity on a number of matters concerning BFC.
These will be published on the BIAS website soon

 

[Bucks Bee]

Am I wrong in thinking that the fact ALL proceeds from the sale of Griffin Park will be ring-fenced into a fund for a new stadium - meaning he can't run away with anything?? I believe that this has been written into the articles of association and thus is a legally binding 'contract'!!

 

[Bee H]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Bucks Bee:
Am I wrong in thinking that the fact ALL proceeds from the sale of Griffin Park will be ring-fenced into a fund for a new stadium - meaning he can't run away with anything?? I believe that this has been written into the articles of association and thus is a legally binding 'contract'!!</font>

All "NET" proceeds e.g. after debts, overdrafts, guarantees etc., have been cleared - which imho won't leave a lot at all !

anyone hazard a guess at what would be left just to enlighten those on here that aren't worried about the clubs future ??

 

[AB]

I sometimes think that there are people around here who would like Noades to shaft us royally just so that they could say "I told you so" and prove how much cleverer and more committed a Bees fan they are.

IMHO there is nothing that Noades could do to make these types happy. Even if he were to put £5m with no strings attached or obligation to repay into the club there would be something wrong and suspicious about it all.

I don't know what is happening. I am not clever enough with numbers to have any idea what the finances mean. I know that I don't want us to go to Woking and I know that Coppell is a great manager who has got us playing like a great team (recent slump in form aside).

Wake me up when the sky's fallen down.

 

[Bee H]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by AB:
I sometimes think that there are people around here who would like Noades to shaft us royally just so that they could say "I told you so" and prove how much cleverer and more committed a Bees fan they are.

IMHO there is nothing that Noades could do to make these types happy. Even if he were to put £5m with no strings attached or obligation to repay into the club there would be something wrong and suspicious about it all.

I don't know what is happening. I am not clever enough with numbers to have any idea what the finances mean. I know that I don't want us to go to Woking and I know that Coppell is a great manager who has got us playing like a great team (recent slump in form aside).

Wake me up when the sky's fallen down.</font>

why bother posting

ever thought that people are concerned at the figures and the future of the club that we all support AB ?

 

[Rudolph_Hucker]

Rudolph would like to say how much he agrees with Baffled and Voice.

 

[Bucks Bee]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Bee H:
All "NET" proceeds e.g. after debts, overdrafts, guarantees etc., have been cleared - which imho won't leave a lot at all !

anyone hazard a guess at what would be left just to enlighten those on here that aren't worried about the clubs future ??</font>

Ron has said that our overdraft is £3.7m. I am presuming that this is our only debt (maybe apart from directors loans). What do we think GP is worth????? If it gets the development application approved, surely that will put the worth up in the £10m bracket - or am I being a bit optimistic??

 

[Greenford Bee]

I am as confused and as concerned as anyone with what 'might' happen' but I agree that 'if' we get promotion then we would have to stay at GP for 2002/2003. Can you imagine us playing locals derby games with Palarse, Millscum and hopefully West Scam at Kingston?

F... it. Let's just get behind the team, get promotion and work out the 'rest' later.

 

[AB]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Bee H:
why bother posting

ever thought that people are concerned at the figures and the future of the club that we all support AB ?

</font>

I'm concerned for the club's future too, but I don't see that I'm any the wiser for being given scary figures about the size of the debt etc! Those figures are meaningless absent the context of what is going to happen next and the only things I hear about that are
(1) we are all completely screwed, Noades is about to disappear into the sun, selling us into oblivion
(2) let's take over the club and er perhaps release all the good players (which we would lambast Noades for doing) and er dream about living on nothing.

Neither of these is particularly enlightening and it is just getting tiring. Maybe I get enough stress at work and at matches to need hypothetical worries too.

I'll leave the subject alone until something happens.

 

[Infatuated Bees Alter Ego]

Baffled you are a very sad man. There's more rumour, conjecture and 130llox in your post than I've seen in a long while.

 

[Bigbee]

If GP is sold for 10 to 11 milllion quid with PP for houseS.Take away the debt plus a new kettle and cups for Gary H and " we'll " have about 5 mill left.What the **** can we build if a site was available with that??Bescott would seem like the Millenium Stadium.Who else is going to become our " partner " .I wouldnt mind sharing with you know who in a decent stadium ,but the support would be diluted between the fans.Back to basics NO MOVE FROM GP WITH OUT DEFINATE CONTRACT FOR A NEW STADIUM.NO TO WOKING ,NO TO ANYWHERE !

[This message has been edited by Bigbee (edited 13 December 2001).]

 

[pandora]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Bigbee:
.Take away the debt plus a new kettle and cups for Gary H </font>

I'm lovin it,lovin it, lovin it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!