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Seeing how well Sankofa and Osborne did last night I'd be tempted to go with that, and Pead and Stone in centre mid, to start with.
Edit: good point, in games where the onus is on us to attack you could play Elder and Reid and drop Connell to a creative midfield role.
Edit: good point, in games where the onus is on us to attack you could play Elder and Reid and drop Connell to a creative midfield role.
maddogging
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but one I would'nt use. The good thing with AS so far is the fact he plays players in their proper position, Paed has never really looked a centre mid to me, I would keep with Milsom and Stone, and see where we go from there.
Has anyone actually got any definate's on KOC's injury, or is it just a few weeks repeated until he returns..?
Gazza Bee
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Pead's never really done it for me in centre midfield so I would swap Smith for Milsom based onhis performance last night. If one of them is underperforming then we have the option of switching Pead into midfield and keeping the back as it finished last night.
maddogging
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our most creative player at the right end of the pitch, I am pretty sure AS will start with Stone and Milsom. Would also start the back four with Sankofa-Heywood-Osborne-Dickson, harsh on Paed but that is the beauty at the moment, players challenging for positions.Centre Midfield
It would be nice to know how long Smith is suspended for but for one game I would agree with you. AS made a big mistake against Wycombe shuflfling too many positions to cope with one sending off.
Brain-dead Bee
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While Pead has looked better at RB than CM, Stone and Milsom may be too inexperienced a pairing, so if the 2nd half defence worked well last night, I'd be inclined to go for Pead and Stone in MF (assuming Pead is fit and that it was a tactical substitution). If it was an in-form opponent on Saturday, I'd certainly go that way, but against Accrington, AS may decide just to bring Milsom straight in for Smith, and see how it works.
Mads Bee
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Back four as was the 2nd half yesterday. Pead hasnt really performed well in the last 3 games and the 2nd half yesterday was much better in that respect.
Looking like Parkes will not feature for us and am sure will head back - envisage Milsom - who I presume has been brought in to replace KOC - and possible Pead/Stone in centre midfield..with JM being out too we dont have many options in that area... Shame both KOC and GS are out, they have formed part of the spine of the team of late including Connell and Heywood :sad:
Looking like Parkes will not feature for us and am sure will head back - envisage Milsom - who I presume has been brought in to replace KOC - and possible Pead/Stone in centre midfield..with JM being out too we dont have many options in that area... Shame both KOC and GS are out, they have formed part of the spine of the team of late including Connell and Heywood :sad:
Edmundo
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It's a bit harsh on Pead to write him off as a central midfielder since he has only played there under Butcher.
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Pead, Milsom, Stone, Parkes, Poole can drop inside left if we put Dickson on the wing and Milsom at left back, Connell attacking midfield if we're desperate as we do have enough strikers to still play 4-4-2 and have subs available. It is a problem, but not as big a problem now as it was 2 months ago.
As posted above, I would like to see Reid up front with Elder as he doesn't seem to be lighting the world up on the right wing just now.
As posted above, I would like to see Reid up front with Elder as he doesn't seem to be lighting the world up on the right wing just now.
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True, and he did get injured against H&R so probably wasn't fully fit for a while after that too.
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sonofabee
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IMHO it's more about the balance rather than the individuals and in the absence of both the holding midfielder and the ball winner, it's important that we have some fight in the middle and why I'd be inclined not to drop Connell back in. It seems the ideal replacement/grafter Mous is still injured but we have to make sure that there is some bite and authority to compliment the hardworking but lightweigh wide players.
wanderer paul
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i beg to differ, this was Pead's first game at RB where he has struggled, been an unsung 'hero' of our last 10 matches IMO.
Dickson had problems too last night, his defending isn't as good as his attacking options at the moment, but i'm sure he'll be a LB of Bees legend IMO.
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Would rather have Pead on the bench and push Poole inwards tbh, but I've posted my team in the Big Match section so yeh.
I don't see why we still can't play attacking football even with Smith/Kev/Mous all out. We'll need to with Accrington probably sending 9 defenders out on Saturday.
GP200
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i beg to differ, this was Pead's first game at RB where he has struggled, been an unsung 'hero' of our last 10 matches IMO.
...............after being messed about by Butcher,Pead has found his preferred position and excelled........................
jlove
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You did not see him at Peterborough, then?
Actually, I think it depends on the opposition. Pead has looked sound against average left-midfielders but, faced with a speedy winger, his lack of speed lets him down. He does, on the other hand, get forward and cross well; it works best when Shakes breaks forward and then lays the ball off to Pead to cross.
At home, our problem is breaking down defensive formations so I'd prefer to see centre-midfield keeping tight and allowing the back-and-winger combination, on each side, to get to the by-line and pile in the crosses, now we have a threat with Elder.
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Thought Stone had a decent game to be honest, he is not fully match fit I'd say and is still learning his trade at this level ( which is why he sometimes gets caught with the ball) but as long he keeps improving every game then he could be a decent player for us.
It was a tough game last night for him...slopping pitch with a physical direct and pacey side you could see he took a while to get used to it ( as did others) but in the end he got on top of things and was far more effective second half.
Stone and Milsom probable formation although won't Smith be eligible on Saturday anyway?
It was a tough game last night for him...slopping pitch with a physical direct and pacey side you could see he took a while to get used to it ( as did others) but in the end he got on top of things and was far more effective second half.
Stone and Milsom probable formation although won't Smith be eligible on Saturday anyway?
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if you are going to quote somebody, quote them in full and don't cut short the sentence i wrote.
i stated; "i beg to differ, this was Pead's first game at RB where he has struggled, been an unsung 'hero' of our last 10 matches IMO"
read the quote then reply. last 10 matches, that is after the Peterborough debacle.
wayfarer172
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I agree,Connell as a scheming midfielder (sort of Johnny Brooks) with Elder and Reid as our strike force.
walkerbee
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start with stone/milsom... if it doesnt work bring in pead.
just be glad we have that option though... imagine what mess we'd be in without stone and milsom!
just be glad we have that option though... imagine what mess we'd be in without stone and milsom!
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for me, AS has three options for centre midfield on saturday...
1 stick with stone and milsom
2 pead (if fit) and stone or milsom
3 connell and pead (if fit) or stone or milsom
(with montague and elder up front)
i would guess he'll startwith 1 and revert to
2 if we're being out muscled
and then 3 if it all goes horribly wrong and we're chasing the game
1 stick with stone and milsom
2 pead (if fit) and stone or milsom
3 connell and pead (if fit) or stone or milsom
(with montague and elder up front)
i would guess he'll startwith 1 and revert to
2 if we're being out muscled
and then 3 if it all goes horribly wrong and we're chasing the game
LingfieldBee
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Ah what to do about centre midfield, i dont think Stone is a good player, doesnt seem to win the ball much and with the ball he can be woeful sometimes, Milsom looked stronger, and i would prefer Pead at right back good at going forward! so suppose would have to have stone in midfield, well i look forward to saturday tad nervous but will see who AS plays in midfield.
Boston Bee
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I know the sentiment is against fiddling, but let me suggest something a bit different and see how much abuse I get:
Paed-Heywood-Osborne-Dickson, as before in back four.
Sankofa as ball-winning midfielder (Makelele role). He's quick, positionally smart and has some decent ballskills that might make this an ideal role for him
Connell as attacking midfielder, Reid and Elder.
Paed-Heywood-Osborne-Dickson, as before in back four.
Sankofa as ball-winning midfielder (Makelele role). He's quick, positionally smart and has some decent ballskills that might make this an ideal role for him
Connell as attacking midfielder, Reid and Elder.
West Ealing Bee
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I know the sentiment is against fiddling, but let me suggest something a bit different and see how much abuse I get:
Paed-Heywood-Osborne-Dickson, as before in back four.
Sankofa as ball-winning midfielder (Makelele role). He's quick, positionally smart and has some decent ballskills that might make this an ideal role for him
Connell as attacking midfielder, Reid and Elder.
Can someone tell Boston Bee Terry Butcher has nicked his log in.
A defender and a striker as the central midfield partnership
Brain-dead Bee
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Not Connell in MF please. He doesn't have the tackling to be one of a midfield 2 (could possibly survive in a 3 but let's not mess around with formations) and we'd miss his creativity where it matters, around the opponents' box
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Can someone tell Boston Bee Terry Butcher has nicked his log in.
A defender and a striker as the central midfield partnership
Nah, if Butcher had logged on as Boston bee ( although I doubt he would know how !) he would be suggesting leaving Hamer and Connell on the bench and probably be calling the "dale" to see if we could get Thorpe on loan !!
Jimbee
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Andy Scott saw a potential problem in midfield with Kev and Mous out for a number of weeks.
He brought players in specifically to cover them which, whilst not an ideal solution, is a far better option that trying to fit square pegs in round holes á la Butcher.
Milsom and Stone should be the pairing on Saturday and if it goes belly up, Scotty will be man enough to admit his mistake. For me, Pead should start at right back and Karleigh on the bench (for now).
He brought players in specifically to cover them which, whilst not an ideal solution, is a far better option that trying to fit square pegs in round holes á la Butcher.
Milsom and Stone should be the pairing on Saturday and if it goes belly up, Scotty will be man enough to admit his mistake. For me, Pead should start at right back and Karleigh on the bench (for now).
ladbroke
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Same role TB put central defender Adrian Pettigrew in?
Great centre back, not sure as holding midfielder/defensive midfielder.
wanderer paul
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don't tinker with a winning team, only one change needed, Milsom in for Smith. Sankofa back at CB, Pead back at RB, leave Connell and Elder up front, the less we 'tinker' with the side the better we'll be.
All this stick Pead in midfield with Connell, ain't going to work.
We've been playing ok as we are, if one player is out, there's only one player to change. If Milsom and Stone aren't good enough to play together then was it worth bringing them here?
All this stick Pead in midfield with Connell, ain't going to work.
We've been playing ok as we are, if one player is out, there's only one player to change. If Milsom and Stone aren't good enough to play together then was it worth bringing them here?
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