Chronicle

[JimLevack]

The club website now no longer features a What the Papers Say or In the Press section - one of the few in Britain not to.
When it does focus on the local press it rarely mentions the Chronicle's stories, but prefers to credit other papers which appear a day later and tend to lift copy from us anyway.
Whatever the reasons behind that I thought I'd try a little experiment for those people on here unable to get a copy of the Chron.
What do people think about us putting a brief taster of what's in the paper on here every Thursday, time and my or John's memory permitting?
For example this week we have a piece about Stephen Hunt's contract wrangle with Wally.
The Bees boss says he can't wait forever for Hunty to sign a new deal because he will reach a stage when he has to start planning for the future with the lads who HAVE signed.
He stresses he is desperate to keep him but has effectively urged Brighton to come in with a decent offer or pull out.
We also have a tale about two Middlesbrough juniors who could be coming to GP- defender Phil Gulliver, 20, who was on loan at Bournemouth last season, and 19-y-o striker Jamie Cade.
Wally hopes to take a closer look at them on the club's west country pre season tour.

 

[Bush Tuckerman]

Good news on the trialists....I think it would be a good idea to have info on Chronnie stories too!

 

[Clive]

Thanks Jim.

I'm stuck out in deepest Bucks and can't get anywhere near the Chrons circulation area during the close season.
Any news on the Bees is welcome.

 

[North London Bee]

The Chron has proved time after time that it is the only paper with its finger on the pulse of what's going on at the club.

Any news or tasters should be welcomed !

If only its circulation department was as efficient - I 've given up with them

 

[Bee H]

The club website now no longer features a What the Papers Say or In the Press section - one of the few in Britain not to.
When it does focus on the local press it rarely mentions the Chronicle's stories, but prefers to credit other papers which appear a day later and tend to lift copy from us anyway.

So who do you blame then Jim, John Mac & the Exec Comm who run Brentford FC or your old bestist buddy Big Bad Mad Mark Chapman who simply does what he's told ?

Surely a chat with John Mac could resolve the situation ?

Other than that, a regular update would be very much appreciated from wherever thank you :yes:

 

[West Ealing Bee]

The Chron has proved time after time that it is the only paper with its finger on the pulse of what's going on at the club.

Any news or tasters should be welcomed !

Completely agree.

 

[readingbee]

Great idea Jim. I can't get the Chronnie out here in Reading. So any news would be welcome.

 

[rebus]

The club website now no longer features a What the Papers Say or In the Press section - one of the few in Britain not to.
When it does focus on the local press it rarely mentions the Chronicle's stories,
What do people think about us putting a brief taster of what's in the paper on here every Thursday, time and my or John's memory permitting?

I'm surprised the Chronny doesn't have its own website?

 

[The Joker]

Completely agree.

I'll second that...

Also think Bee H makes a valid point about going straight to the top (John Mac). It's got to be worth a shot, Jim.

 

[Watford Bee]

All links between the local paper(s) and the club and the fans must be welcomed.

Living in Watford, I see what can be gained by a club by having a close relationship with the local paper. For example, when Watford announced their £6 million debt problems and when they launched the buy back the ground campaign, the Watford Observer had front page (not just sports section) donation forms to try to attract attention and help for the club.

I know that Jim had problems with RN, but surely John Mac will be more welcoming.

Personally I would love to see the Chronny articles somewhere on the web.

 

[Nurse Betty]

Yes, please, all news on the club very welcome

 

[Old B]

Great idea Jim, if you have time each week it would be greatly appreciated. Again, stuck in Aylesbury all I get from my local is the Ducks and their signings.

The Chronny has always been the best paper for Bees fans, surely the club should go out of its way to be more friendly towards you.

Good luck.

 

[Walshie]

Great idea.

I haven't seen the Chronny since I moved up here 4 years ago.

 

[Milton Keynes Bee]

Great idea - I'm stuck up here outside Milton Keynes and never see the Chron.

 

[condorman]

Levacks Law

I LOVE LEVACKS LAW. IT IS THE BEST THING I HAVE EVER READ. I AM HAVING IT MADE INTO WALLPAPER:blush

 

[Brickie Chap]

Only if you add a Page 3 Girl section as well

 

[rebus]

Re: Levacks Law

I LOVE LEVACKS LAW. IT IS THE BEST THING I HAVE EVER READ. I AM HAVING IT MADE INTO WALLPAPER:blush

rofl rofl

 

[Edmundo]

Great idea Jim. I'm outside the Chronicle's circulation area and unwilling to pay £1 a copy to have it sent to me and not even get a reminder when my sub is about to expire.

I also think this is a matter for General Bees Discussion, so will move the thread.

Let's hope those smoggies are the biz!

 

[Bee H]

rofl rofl

Now, now markbfc, what are you trying to do ? There'll be no more Dinner invites to Royal Leamington Spa for you if you carry on like that !

 

[Jay Bee]

Great idea Jim. I'm outside the Chronicle's circulation area and unwilling to pay £1 a copy to have it sent to me and not even get a reminder when my sub is about to expire.

I also think this is a matter for General Bees Discussion, so will move the thread.

Let's hope those smoggies are the biz!

Don't forget the "first class postage" that gets it to you by Saturday if you're lucky!

I would like to see tasters or articles posted on here, possibly some pages away from the board, but still within this domain name, could be set up?

 

[JBN]

I'm all for an update.

Would it not be easier to provide a link button to the Chrony web site that takes you straight to the Chronicles Bees news.

I know the Chronicle is a local paper and demand may be small but have you considered a cyber paper

I know some of the nationals now send subscibers the paper over the net for a fee (of course).

 

[Edmundo]

Don't forget the "first class postage" that gets it to you by Saturday if you're lucky!

The norm, when I did subscribe, was to get it by the following Tuesday. So if there was a home game, I could have bought a copy sooner in Brentford!

 

[Edmundo]

Would it not be easier to provide a link button to the Chrony web site

No such thing as the Chronny web site.

 

[JBN]

No web site? What planet are they on.

Don't tell me the chronicle are still coming to terms with the technology of the wheel?

 

[Waterlooville Bee]

A brief update on whats in the Chronny would be most appreciated as being stuck in the wilds of Hampshire news on the Bees is a little thin on the ground.

 

[chippendale]

A Chrony update would be a great idea. Yes please Jim.

 

[CJC]

I don't think this site is suited to news in the sense being talked about, I would put it on the official site or on beesotted if they would let you do it.

 

[Bee H]

I don't think this site is suited to news in the sense being talked about, I would put it on the official site or on beesotted if they would let you do it.

What's wrong with the GPG then ?

 

[Mr Tree]

great idea Jim, i've not seen the Chronice available in the Hauptbahnhof at Frankfurt yet!

 

[Streetboy]

No web site? What planet are they on.

Don't tell me the chronicle are still coming to terms with the technology of the wheel?

Mate you should come in and see the computers we use. Someone broke in the other day to steal them but felt so sorry for us he gave the office a quick spring clean instead.
I'm really not sure how many local papers have a budget which extends to running a website, but any paper owned by Trinity Mirror sure as hell won't, I imagine.
To get on the mailing list, or to have a moan at distribution, call them at the Teddington office on 020 8943 5171.
PS great idea Jim, let us know if I can help in any way.

 

[rebus]

I'm really not sure how many local papers have a budget which extends to running a website, but any paper owned by Trinity Mirror sure as hell won't, I imagine.

The two big Dons of local newspaper publishing in the UK are Trinity Mirror and Newsquest. It seems the latter have embraced the Internet as a method of increasing awareness and therefore sales whilst the former have not.

 

[High Street Bee]

Trinity Mirror

Girlfriend worked for Southnews (old publishers of Informer & Leader) and lasted for about three months after Trinity Mirror took over.

All TM care about is profit so she says and they are not interested in the 'local' aspect.

 

[Banana]

The run the ic network of websites (e.g. http://ichounslow.icnetwork.co.uk/ ) which I understand are meant to be positioned alongside their local titles, but the sites are pretty crap and not very local!

 

[CJC]

The GPG is a discussion website/party parachute cant mention propaganda tool . Beesotted is a brentford news site and discussion site. So it would suit there as it is a news piece. I always thought there was no chronicle website as its catchment area population were too stupid to use a computer

 

[King Bee]

Re: Trinity Mirror

Girlfriend worked for Southnews (old publishers of Informer & Leader) and lasted for about three months after Trinity Mirror took over.

All TM care about is profit so she says and they are not interested in the 'local' aspect.

I hate seeing comments like that. As TM is a listed company, and therefore answerable to shareholders (e.g joe public) that demand a nice dividend payment each year, the first thing it ought to do is make sure its bottom line isn't compromised by the transaction. Any transaction that isn't accretive or at the very least earnings netural beyond 12-18months is derided by the stockmarket. Unfortunately, operational costs such as labour are the first to be removed since these are the most easiest to define

 

[rebus]

Re: Re: Trinity Mirror

I hate seeing comments like that. As TM is a listed company, and therefore answerable to shareholders (e.g joe public) that demand a nice dividend payment each year, the first thing it ought to do is make sure its bottom line isn't compromised by the transaction. Any transaction that isn't accretive or at the very least earnings netural beyond 12-18months is derided by the stockmarket. Unfortunately, operational costs such as labour are the first to be removed since these are the most easiest to define

Something to declare King Bee??

 

[BoroBee]

I think you might be onto something Mark - what a strange post KingBee Clearly you have some interest in these people?

 

[parachute]

havent read this thread any further than original message, but keep up the good work at the Chronicle excellent Bees coverage..

 

[High Street Bee]

Well I dont have a personal axe to grind with TM but I can see why its customers might.......

The first thing they did when they took over the Hounslow papers was to close the Hounslow office and centralise it to Chertsey. (Yes I know the office is still there but its editorial only I believe)

Significance of this? Well all the classified advertising (ie all the stuff local to the area) was suddenly moved away from its own catchment area. It also meant that the people who pay for the paper (ie its advertisers) had to drive out of Hounslow if they wanted personal contact and advice.

On this subject I have first hand knowledge coz I was a regular advertiser myself. Staff turnover went through the roof and I went elsewhere for commercial reasons - crap service!

 

[Beestill my beating heart]

Yes please, great idea.

 

[GABS]

Re: Re: Chronicle

I'm surprised the Chronny doesn't have its own website?

I'm not. I for one only buy it for the Bees news and only give the rest of it a quick once over if I am THAT bored

Imagine they would lose alot of revenue if it were on the web for free. Maybe under a reasonably priced subscription area it may be worth it for them.

If this idea is a) Used and b) Works I want royalties from Jim and Streetboy !!! Well... a pint anyhow

 

[Mr Tree]

The GPG is a discussion website/party parachute cant mention propaganda tool . Beesotted is a brentford news site and discussion site. So it would suit there as it is a news piece. I always thought there was no chronicle website as its catchment area population were too stupid to use a computer

you silly boy

 

[CJC]

Yeah whatever.

 

[philip turner]

this is a great idea jim and please dont give up providing valuable info on here for those of us "out of town".

while a "chronny" website might be a bit tedious (no offence) it would be a valuable resource to have a bees fans website aimed at the expat fans who clearly cannot get into london every week. even when i do pop into brentford i usually read the sports pages in the paper shop rather than paying 35p or whatever. a website aimed at the out of towners could also be the stepping stone to setting up liftshares to matches or stuff like that.

i'm not an expert on website construction (yet) but for someone out there it could be a good idea to attract regular readers/advertisement etc.

 

[Bee H]

when i do pop into brentford i usually read the sports pages in the paper shop rather than paying 35p

I'm sure Jim and the Chronny will be delighted to hear that !

 

[philip turner]

(cough).....i erm, put the 35p in the BU collection bucket

 

[Streetboy]

even when i do pop into brentford i usually read the sports pages in the paper shop rather than paying 35p or whatever.[/B]

SKINFLINT!
I think GABS is quite right though, I only started reading my local rag (Ealing Gazette, those Chelsea and Fulham lovers) when I started working in the industry, and that was only really to make comparisons to my own work.
Most people just dont sem to have the same interest in local affairs and issues as they used to (cue sociological babble about breakdown in communities etc etc), so if poeple arent going to buy the local paper why would they log onto a local paper website?

BTW High Street who is your girlfriend? I probably worked with her for a while. Your comments on Trinity Mirror moving the advertising department are spot on.