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mmmm wasn't one thread closed because it's a 'private matter'?

maybe this one won't last either ;)
 

Dean Wells

Not sure how its a private matter, Hampton and Richmond have publicly made a statement and all the information is in the public domain.

Its all done now and all that is really to be done is wish Dean all the best and hopefully a sentence reduction!
 

Dean Wells

wanderer paul said:
mmmm wasn't one thread closed because it's a 'private matter'?

maybe this one won't last either ;)
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It was closed at the request of some posters. We were happy to respect their wishes but I agree that this is now difficult as it is in the public domain.
 

Dean Wells

so come on then, what happened? Having met dean on a fair few occasions down at the beveree i know him to be a top bloke, admittedly he does love a tear up but everyone has their flaws I suppose.
 

Dean Wells

Seems a harsh punishment when you look at what the poppy burner got :rolleyes: :mad1:
 

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jamesone23 said:
so come on then, what happened? Having met dean on a fair few occasions down at the beveree i know him to be a top bloke, admittedly he does love a tear up but everyone has their flaws I suppose.
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With respect, it's none of your business what happened and a shame you started this thread on here.
 

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jamesone23 said:
sentence is a joke
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why is it? would you have given a sh*t if it was another club and you didn't know that person? I don't think so... would love to seen the cctv on it tbh..
 

Dean Wells

Bad news !
Top bloke is Dean.
I wonder what hidden sins the judge hides from society.
 

Dean Wells

Disgusting sentence but can come as no surprise. As soon as sonething is 'football related', the sentence sky rockets.
 

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bees66 said:
why is it? would you have given a sh*t if it was another club and you didn't know that person? I don't think so... would love to seen the cctv on it tbh..
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Think any jail time for a 30 second punch up is pretty harsh when you see what other people get away with, whatever club they support. Bit silly doing it in that part of town though was only ever going to be one outcome
 

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westwing said:
6 months is still a long time and still leaves your life in ruins.
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Well perhaps he and others will think twice before doing similar again. Probably out in much less than 6 months due to Ken Clarke's 'soft on crime' prison policies.
 

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SCARFER said:
Think any jail time for a 30 second punch up is pretty harsh when you see what other people get away with, whatever club they support. Bit silly doing it in that part of town though was only ever going to be one outcome
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:imwith:it's the same for road rage now days too, any bruising then that's it your going down for your part as long as you throw the first punch...
 

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westwing said:
6 months is still a long time and still leaves your life in ruins.
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Cant do the time dont do the crime.Do we want an hooligan element at GP? On the "stewarding to be beefed up at gp"thread,there are a ton of stories relating to unsavoury behaviour by so called fellow supporters,some to our own.Support Dean Wells if you like,but he knew what he was doing and he knew the consequences if he got caught.He got caught and he got banged up.Same as someone who sells smack or drinks and drives,they know the score.
 

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rebus said:
With respect, it's none of your business what happened and a shame you started this thread on here.
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I'm amazed as a Brentford Board Member you are commenting?
 

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for the record dean is decent bloke, loyal brentford and probably knew the score;)....if you play with fire etc etc....the sentance is a joke though cos if you had a punch up on a friday night outside any city centre pub youd be probably cautioned or fined at the most.....anything to do with football and these paedophile judges have been told to make an example regardless of character or previous history.....just look at the recent chelsea cases against cardiff....jm got 2 years just for standing in a road where things were happening.....get in trouble at the football thesedays and you might as well go straight to wormwood scrubs and look yourself up.......id rather the law and the useless old bill concentrated on stopping proper crime and not trying to make examples of a few blokes who might like a punch up with like minded others (which is wrong but its hardly a concern for 99% of the population).....perhaps they ought to put a bit more effort into gun crime, knife crime, street robberies, junkies burglerys, paedophiles, rapists, etc etc 'kin etc :(

the law is an ass

and good luck to the other bees who are yet to appear.....theyre gonna need it

oh, and well done to hampton and richmond fc for saying he's welcome back when he gets out.....nice to see a bit of loyalty in the game thesedays ;)
 

Dean Wells

I suppose it depends just how stupid one is really. If you go about throwing missiles about in Liverpool St Station (from reports) then you're going to draw attention to yourself really. Probably more CCTVs per square inch there then anywhere else in London. If you want to have a punch-up with "like-minded others" then do it your house and nobody needs to know.
 

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Greenholme Bee said:
I'm amazed as a Brentford Board Member you are commenting?
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I don't know what to make of the comment, a bit unprofessional perhaps?

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For what it's worth though, I am currently studying material about crime and community safety. The consensus among many researchers (though not all) is that we have one of the highest prison populations by percentage in Europe because people are banged up for behaviour which could either be tolerated or managed. I think that is relevant here. There must have been a load of control orders in the toolbox the judge could have used rather than using the cage. Packed train station probably not the most savvy choice of fight venue though. :no:
 

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Banana said:
I suppose it depends just how stupid one is really. If you go about throwing missiles about in Liverpool St Station (from reports) then you're going to draw attention to yourself really. Probably more CCTVs per square inch there then anywhere else in London. If you want to have a punch-up with "like-minded others" then do it your house and nobody needs to know.
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no ones saying it wasnt stupid......just the severity of the punishment......it just doesnt fit the crime......and you know it ;) and the last part of your post is just plain stoopid boy....want me to call you pike ?? lol
if that was the case 30 years ago there wouldnt have been any space in prisons for proper criminals.....the places would have just been full of football fans lol

its just the government trying to show its muscle when in fact theyre totally soft on the things that matter,,,,,,as usual :(
 

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Voice from the Braemar said:
no ones saying it wasnt stupid......just the severity of the punishment......it just doesnt fit the crime......
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I've not seen the evidence, nor do I have knowledge re Dean's "previous" or lack thereof. Therefore I am not qualified to comment. However, I doubt it is way out of line.

No doubt we'll be hearing how lenient judges are the next time someone doesn't get hung for some trivial offence that didn't involve violence to the person.
 

Dean Wells

I have a little experience of this and as soon as Football and violence are connected the tariff goes off the scale .
 

Dean Wells

Apologies, but I've not been up on this story but can someone explain why some Bees fans would be at L. St station having a ruck with O's fans on the last day of the season when IIRC we were at home to Hartlepool
 

Dean Wells

I only know what i read in the press so my views are clearly that of an outsider compared to many others who know the individual... my initial thoughts were "bees fans 'organising' a fight with Orient fans? that's rather silly"... then i thought, how ironic, one of those found guilty has the same name as an ex-bee...

i guess as others on here who seem to know mr wells are showing their support, you just have to hope it's a bit of an eye-opener for him. i would add that he's certainly not a sex pest like marlon king or a drug riddled killing machine/hit and run **** like lee hughes.
 

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Banana said:
I've not seen the evidence, nor do I have knowledge re Dean's "previous" or lack thereof. Therefore I am not qualified to comment. However, I doubt it is way out of line.

No doubt we'll be hearing how lenient judges are the next time someone doesn't get hung for some trivial offence that didn't involve violence to the person.
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YOUR QUITE RIGHT.......if you havnt seen the evidence or know anything about it then its best not to comment.....you should try following your own advice ;)
And anyway, most judges have no connection to the 'real world'......a bit like something yellow and fruity ;) lol
 

Dean Wells

I would have thought, if the evidence is correct that the fight was pre-arranged between 2 sets of fans, that it was always going to be a tough sentence.
 

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Greenholme Bee said:
I'm amazed as a Brentford Board Member you are commenting?
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To be frank Nick, I can comment on what I see fit. I'm just surprised someone starts a thread on what a top bloke someone is and then reveals to all and sundry he is serving a prison sentence. I know this information is in the public domain but found it odd, that's all.
 

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chippendale said:
I would have thought, if the evidence is correct that the fight was pre-arranged between 2 sets of fans, that it was always going to be a tough sentence.
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Yes it was pre arranged and in that case the sentence mirrors that.He isnt alone though so expect more hefty sentences to be handed down very soon.The main issue here is that the met do not want a return of football related violence to return to the capital so sentences,if they are caught,will reflect that.This sentence will send a warning to others that if you want to engage in football related violence in a public place then you are going down for a long time.Next time he could get 5 years if he decides to do it again,but I hope he is not that daft.
 

Dean Wells

Sounds a bit daft to "arrange" a punch up where there's loads of cctv cameras about !!
 

Dean Wells

In fairness, we could do with a midfield general on the pitch with similar qualities ....Able to perform in front of the cameras, lshow some passion and fight for the cause
 

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sonofabee said:
In fairness, we could do with a midfield general on the pitch with similar qualities ....Able to perform in front of the cameras, lshow some passion and fight for the cause
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Quite, did we 'win' this fixture?:fishing::horns:
 

Dean Wells

Loads of moo-moos commenting on matters they dont know about. Stick to kniting children and worrying about the players laughing at you behind your backs on Twitter.
 

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Brickie Chap said:
Stick to kniting children.
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I've finished mine, I did a cashmere 10 year old and called her angela and if there's time I'm going to knit a little french boy out of angora and call him Pascal. [castoffpearloneknitonesmiley]
 

Dean Wells

Pre arranged football fight in the middle of a huge capital city, at a station known to be heavily monitored due to terrorism, with thousands of public eyes watching. Im sure there all wonderful gentleman but they are all so clearly thick as sh1t!!!!!!! Lets face it he probably is a nice bloke but is he is going to behave like a **** then thats whats gonna happen!!! The judge would have looked at the fact Bees were at home that day and that GP is no where near Liverpool Street!!!! IMHO there morons, fair enough around the ground there can sumtimes be a little scrap but thats not pre meditated and is always gonna happen with passions sumtimes running high but what these lot have done is thick and a joke!!!
 

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And anothere thing i just wasted 2 mins writing that last statement can we pls close this thread as what a waste of time. why waste time on such idiots its pointless!!!
 

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chizbee said:
Sounds a bit daft to "arrange" a punch up where there's loads of cctv cameras about !!
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Sounds a bit daft to arrange a punch up full stop. Without having sat through the whole trial and not being privy to the criminal records of anybody involved I can't fairly comment on the specific case (and neither can anybody else) but in general I've for no sympathy for anybody who by their actions drags the good name of BFC and, by implication, all of it's supporters into the gutter. It's no use saying nobody was involved who didn't want to be; the impact in terms of more zealous and expensive policing and stewarding will affect both club and fans.
 
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A Real Mysteron said:
I have a little experience of this and as soon as Football and violence are connected the tariff goes off the scale .
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Spot on...

Or better still if you really want to see justice go to Brentford magistrates and look at the sentences people committing benefit fraud get. Nick £20,000 blow the lot on holiday etc get caught after 5-10 years of deliberately robbing from the state. Say you dont have a pot to piss in and recieve 50 hours community service or maybe just a fine. (not bad work for 20K better than the loan rate the bank will give you)
 

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Hullbee said:
Or better still if you really want to see justice go to Brentford magistrates and look at the sentences people committing benefit fraud get. Nick £20,000 blow the lot on holiday etc get caught after 5-10 years of deliberately robbing from the state. Say you dont have a pot to piss in and recieve 50 hours community service or maybe just a fine. (not bad work for 20K better than the loan rate the bank will give you)
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I can't find a reference to this case. Do you have a link to a report?
 

Dean Wells

Or you can run down and kill a 12 year old girl, and get four months, and then win your appeal to be allowed to remain in the country because YOUR human rights might be effected. Even though that case was back in 2004, it still sticks out as a sick sentance.

Saying that, you know if your raise your fists at football, get caught, the penalty is going to be harsh.
 

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Brickie Chap said:
Or you can run down and kill a 12 year old girl, and get four months, and then win your appeal to be allowed to remain in the country because YOUR human rights might be effected. Even though that case was back in 2004, it still sticks out as a sick sentance.
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The sentence for his murder was very light. Should have been 10 years minimum.
The deportation hearing was complicated as he had a young family.
Deporting him would have left a child fatherless.
Mind you, the correct sentence would have done that just about
I'll shut up cos its confusing me


Brickie Chap said:
Saying that, you know if your raise your fists at football, get caught, the penalty is going to be harsh.
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Unless you're a player.
 

Dean Wells

He killed a child, he lost his right to be treated as a human being at that point. **** him and his scabby family. He should have hung in my book. A eye for an eye. This country bends over backwards to tolerate scum.
 
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