Derek McInnes Next Manager?

[blunstone]

hmmmmmmmm. if true, bfc has wrong footed us all. dunno. but it would be good to have a few scottish accents about the place again - anyone remember higginson, sirrell, docherty and skippy? i couldn't understand a word any of them said !!!!

back to foz, did anyone attend the post match press conference? if so, what was said please?

 

[blunstone]

st johnstone forum:

http://www.weareperth.co.uk/vforum/showthread.php?p=423912#post423912

 

[wayfarer172]

exactly right. I am very alarmed by this report and really, really hope the board does not pursue it. I think we should stick with Fozzy (though I had my doubts at first, he's proved himself). If not that, then we need someone who has proved themselves in English football. No stupid gambles please.

You sound like a real happy chappie............................NOT.
IF ''The Sun'' is correct, and we all know how reliable they are...............NOT.
It might be such a bad appointment. Like someone has said, Scottish Managers seem to do rather well this side of the border. Ferguson,Dalgliesh,etc.
I have 100% confidence in the board to get this appointment right. We are lucky enough to have some good people in our corner. Abee, Mr Benham and the board for example. Whoever gets the gig, it wont please everybody.

 

[Hanwell_Bee]

Are you an expert on McInnes then? Do enlighten us why this would be crap?

Because this appontment will be totally underwhelming and fills me with no confidence that he could do the job whatsoever, his team sits 7 points behind a team managed by Butcher.....Butcher for christs sake! in a league that is at best lower league one at best. Plus he saw Cleveland Taylor as a good signing (Marvin Williams MK2)
If this is our appointment to take us to the next level, then our next level is bloody low.

 

[bees66]

st johnstone forum:

http://www.weareperth.co.uk/vforum/showthread.php?p=423912#post423912

read the last 20 posts.. the links there already

 

[brentfordfc4ever]

This guy has been highly rated for sometime now. He was interviewed for the Burnley job, this tells me that he has high pedigree. You dont get considered for that type of job if your a nobody.

I think he could be good. The Spl is League one standard for me but he has kept a very poor side stable in that division on what i would imagine is a low budget?. I have also heard some of his interviews, he seems a very level guy.

Alot of scotish managers do well, look at Owen coyle. now at a top 10 Premiership club, he came from Sj Johnstone.

I think it would be a great appointment to be fair.

If it happens it happens. i will be giving my full support in what i hope will be a very exciting season for us. could spend close to the amount we had with Noades?.

onwards & Upwards.

You redssss

 

[bees66]

Plus he saw Cleveland Taylor as a good signing (Marvin Williams MK2)
If this is our apponitment to take us to the next level, then our next level is bloody low.

I agree lol

 

[Adam]

74 of those days was because of snow

They went from the 1st of February to the 25th of April scoring only 1 own goal in the league. I can confirm there was no snow in this period and they played around 10 games

 

[GP200]

.................yep...........................fandabeedozzee..................................................................

 

[Bigbee]

The only other McInnes linked with Brentford was a dodgy chappy who had to flee to USA a couple of years back

 

[JOABee]

A few weeks ago, his side was beaten 3-0 at home against Terry Butcher.

enough said really, hope it isnt him.

 

[wayfarer172]

Absolute crap appointment if true.
Would rather stick with Fozzy and give him a pre-season and time to get his own squad together.
Really Really not impressed at all and to be honest would have expected better!
is this another "cheap" option?

What makes you say that? What do you know about Derek McInnes?

 

[Hanwell_Bee]

What makes you say that? What do you know about Derek McInnes?

see post 2033.
Know nothing about him personally! i'm sure he's a nice chap!

 

[Raybfc123]

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/footba...t-1000-minutes-without-a-goal-86908-23087518/

Hmmmmm

 

[magicbees]

He took Cleveland Taylor from us, enough said. Stick with NF over him any day. Still want John Still as manager and with Dagenham going down maybe we have a chance.

 

[Raybfc123]

Keith Hill Pleaseeeee

 

[hanworthbee]

interesting development and much more to my taste than di matteo or hasselbaink, jocks make good managers.

 

[JOABee]

interesting development and much more to my taste than di matteo or hasselbaink, jocks make good managers.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terry_Butcher

 

[hanworthbee]

Butcher isn't scottish

 

[Niyx]

jocks make good managers.

We've had a jock before ... Frank Mclintock. But otherwise, I agree with you

 

[northyorksbee]

Interesting to note that whilst Nicky Forster has (to date) only had twenty-one games in charge, which doesn't really merit too great a comparison with those who had much longer in the job, his record over that time stands up well against any other Brentford manager in the last forty years.

Leaving aside Steve Coppell - who is far and away the most successful in terms of a win ratio - Nicky Forster's 43% win ratio is only bettered by Martin Allen and Phil Holder, both with 44%.

I’m going to support whatever decision the board make.

But I’ll be disappointed if Nicky doesn’t get the job. I think overall he’s earned it.

The 43% win statistic is pretty impressive, especially in the temporary circumstances. Our fourth best manager in the last forty years ! What more do we want?

I’d like to see some loyalty to someone who turned it around when we were going down the tubes. And I like the manner in which he’s done it.

If we stick with Nicky while he continues through his learning curve everyone will benefit.

I’m sure this new Scottish bloke has all the credentials. I’m sure he stands as good a chance as any candidate of delivering.

But I still think Nicky’s done enough to be given the big chance ahead of anyone who is ‘promising’.

 

[love and mercy]

I think if we appoint Nicky its a case of the heart ruling the head.
We all want Nicky o be successful I am just not sure he will be.

 

[The Joker]

All I know about him is that he had a really good reputation when he was at Millwall and was seen as a future coach/manager and highly spoken about.

Right out of left field but highly interesting - another Owen Coyle perhaps?

In more ways than one perhaps - McInnes replaced Coyle as St Johnstone manager when Coyle left for Burnley. And as noted elsewhere on this thread, McInnes was linked with the Burnley job when Coyle moved to Bolton.

 

[Bigbee]

In more ways than one perhaps - McInnes replaced Coyle as St Johnstone manager when Coyle left for Burnley. And as noted elsewhere on this thread, McInnes was linked with the Burnley job when Coyle moved to Bolton.

Maybe Coyle recommended to Burnley that they should have a look at him ?

 

[Eamonnolov123]

could be a wild shot but possibly Andy Sinton? Currently managing AFC Telford who are in the Blue Square North Play-offs at the moment. The old man is a Telford fan and they love him up there. Finished second in the league with the this season and has previous Brentford connections. Maybe clutching at straws with the 10-day wait and approach to be made...

 

[Nurse Betty]

I’m going to support whatever decision the board make.

But I’ll be disappointed if Nicky doesn’t get the job. I think overall he’s earned it.

The 43% win statistic is pretty impressive, especially in the temporary circumstances. Our fourth best manager in the last forty years ! What more do we want?

I’d like to see some loyalty to someone who turned it around when we were going down the tubes. And I like the manner in which he’s done it.

If we stick with Nicky while he continues through his learning curve everyone will benefit.

I’m sure this new Scottish bloke has all the credentials. I’m sure he stands as good a chance as any candidate of delivering.

But I still think Nicky’s done enough to be given the big chance ahead of anyone who is ‘promising’.

No-one has any way of knowing whether it was Forster who managed the side to a 43% win statistic or Warburton and lauding Nicky and Nicky only for our successes is short-sighted to the point of blindness. Warburton was the one with the coaching background, not Nicky Forster.

Nicky Forster may or may not develop into an excellent manager but he can do his learning curve somewhere else, please, or at Brentford but under an experienced manager with a decent track record.

 

[perrybee]

Rumours amongst Lincoln fans think Steve tilson is our new manager.. I definately hope not!

 

[djheavens]

Where has that come from?

 

[northyorksbee]

No-one has any way of knowing whether it was Forster who managed the side to a 43% win statistic or Warburton and lauding Nicky and Nicky only for our successes is short-sighted to the point of blindness. Warburton was the one with the coaching background, not Nicky Forster.

Nicky Forster may or may not develop into an excellent manager but he can do his learning curve somewhere else, please, or at Brentford but under an experienced manager with a decent track record.

You’re entitled to your opinion and I’m entitled to mine. I won’t be insulting you for your opinion, though.

Like any manager, Nicky Forster carries overall responsibility for playing success or failure during his tenure.

 

[favershambee]

If it's to be McInnnes let's hope he doesn't bring his strikers with him 22 goals scored in 36 games played. The lowest goals scored in the division. Thats worse than our statistics!!!!

 

[wayfarer172]

Something odd about all of this. I listened to what Mr Mills had to say on Bees Player yesterday. Billy Reeves (Bless Him0 had the cheek to ask Mr Mills who the next manager would be. What a cheek eh? The gaul of the man. Of course Mr Mills said he hadn't a clue who the next manager would be. All he did say that he thought there might be a decision n around 10 days time. Anyway, don't take any notice of what the SUN says. It's allways been a joke tabloid, not much better than a comic. In fact I'd rather read the ''Beano'' or ''Dandy''. Are those comics still printed?
I am devided about NF. He's done a decent job considering he was slung in at the deep end, left with what AS bought to the club. Whether he is the man to carry us forward, I am uncertain about.

 

[Ambrose_1889]

Whilst the likes of Di Matteo and Coppell would still remain my first choices but if they are out of reach, I certainly wouldn't be against McInnes. Has a good reputation, has been linked to some high profile Championship jobs but most of all, I trust the board to get this right. They know just as well as us, if not more so, just how big this appointment is for BFC.

There's been a lot of mention regarding a bad run of form for St Johnstone this season but we're not going to be able to attract a totally perfect manager. In fact I'm not sure they even exist?! Coppell's swift departures from some clubs goes down as a blot on his copybook, obviously there was a reason Di Matteo got the sack at West Brom and even if he were interested, I wouldn't be entirely convinced by Hughton.

I would have confidence in McInnes and back him to the hilt, as SalfordBee might say. I certainly would rather see him coming in than a Buckle, Wilder, Forster, Tisdale and other names mentioned. My only genuine concern would be his experience in spending a decent budget and indeed his knowledge of our current squad (although I suppose a few chats with the backroom staff and DVD sessions may be enough to sort that out).

Would be a positive appointment and one that we wouldn't have been in a position to make a year or two ago, without MB. I definitely see this bloke as closer to a Coyle than a Butcher. That said, I still hold out hope for Di Matteo. Laughable how everyone said they don't want a 'name' but now it seems we aren't getting a 'name', it's not inspiring enough!

 

[wayfarer172]

Rumours amongst Lincoln fans think Steve tilson is our new manager.. I definately hope not!

Let's all relax and wait and see.

 

[perrybee]

Twitter homepage, search brentford

 

[scruff puppy pup]

Very feasable what with the SPL not finishing until the 14th May, which would explain the 10 day wait. doesn't exite me one bit though if true

St. Johnstone have scored 22 goals in 36 league games.
They haven't scored more than two goals in a game in the SPL all season.
What kind of football does McInnes have them playing?

 

[wayfarer172]

Whilst the likes of Di Matteo and Coppell would still remain my first choices but if they are out of reach, I certainly wouldn't be against McInnes. Has a good reputation, has been linked to some high profile Championship jobs but most of all, I trust the board to get this right. They know just as well as us, if not more so, just how big this appointment is for BFC.

There's been a lot of mention regarding a bad run of form for St Johnstone this season but we're not going to be able to attract a totally perfect manager. In fact I'm not sure they even exist?! Coppell's swift departures from some clubs goes down as a blot on his copybook, obviously there was a reason Di Matteo got the sack at West Brom and even if he were interested, I wouldn't be entirely convinced by Hughton.

I would have confidence in McInnes and back him to the hilt, as SalfordBee might say. I certainly would rather see him coming in than a Buckle, Wilder, Forster, Tisdale and other names mentioned. My only genuine concern would be his experience in spending a decent budget and indeed his knowledge of our current squad (although I suppose a few chats with the backroom staff and DVD sessions may be enough to sort that out).

Would be a positive appointment and one that we wouldn't have been in a position to make a year or two ago, without MB. I definitely see this bloke as closer to a Coyle than a Butcher. That said, I still hold out hope for Di Matteo. Laughable how everyone said they don't want a 'name' but now it seems we aren't getting a 'name', it's not inspiring enough!

You can allways expect a Jock to spend money wisely. They are not mean or tight.They are thrifty.

 

[shouldbee]

Something odd about all of this. I listened to what Mr Mills had to say on Bees Player yesterday. Billy Reeves (Bless Him0 had the cheek to ask Mr Mills who the next manager would be. What a cheek eh? The gaul of the man. Of course Mr Mills said he hadn't a clue who the next manager would be. All he did say that he thought there might be a decision n around 10 days time. Anyway, don't take any notice of what the SUN says. It's allways been a joke tabloid, not much better than a comic. In fact I'd rather read the ''Beano'' or ''Dandy''. Are those comics still printed?
I am devided about NF. He's done a decent job considering he was slung in at the deep end, left with what AS bought to the club. Whether he is the man to carry us forward, I am uncertain about.

Nicky is far less a "gamble" than some unknown from an unfashionable little club in Scotland.
NF has changed our style of play and put players in who many on here were calling lightweights, he definately deserves the job, but hey ho it's the boards decision. THE board who hired Butcher, Rosenior, Fitgerald and THE board who allowed Scott to throw money down the drain, sign inadequate players on long contracts, change the configuation of the stadium so he could shout at the players...........amazing !

 

[scruff puppy pup]

Why on earth would you take McInnes ahead of Keith Hill?
Unless Hiil already has a job lined up next season.

 

[Ambrose_1889]

I wouldn't say McInnes is an 'unknown', I've heard him being linked to a few jobs recently and is a very well respected and high rated manager. Why would Hill be any better? I see them as very similar actually.

 

[shouldbee]

I wonder if he'll bring Jody Morris and Cleveland Taylor with him ??

 

[IslandBee]

Still to read something, either here on their site, about St J's style of football. Anyone have any idea? The goals total really worries me though. But he has a promotion under his belt and a cup semifinal against Rangers which they only lost on pens. They are not a big club so two solid seasons in the SPL is not a bad achievement. As for the 0-3 against Butcher's lot, it appears they put out a second team. See below from their site:

'With relegation looking a mathematical improbability and the Scottish
Cup banished from the collective memory for another season, this
televised fixture gave Derek McInnes a chance to give his full squad a
run-out, with places in next year's first team up for grabs.'

 

[vcmazz]

His name sounds a little bit like Guinness. For this reason, he would be a good appointment in my opinion. We could even invent our own rhyming slang. 'Pint of Degsy please bartender'. :yes: As for the boy McInnes, apart from two Championship level clubs, Scottish football is more or less park football so the step up in class has got to be a good thing for him .

 

[Les Beeavinu]

Why on earth would you take McInnes ahead of Keith Hill?
Unless Hiil already has a job lined up next season.

Or he doesn't want to come.

 

[scruff puppy pup]

Or he doesn't want to come.

Can we make him an offer he can't refuse?
....oh, wait a minute, that's Paladini at QPR.

 

[wayfarer172]

Here is Coyle giving his opinion on McInnes.

WARNING..... You may need an interprator.


http://youtu.be/KryvOsTdBVg

 

[scruff puppy pup]

Here is Coyle giving his opinion on McInnes.

WARNING..... You may need an interprator.

Jody Morris!!!!......Noooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://youtu.be/KryvOsTdBVg

 

[blunstone]

Nicky is far less a "gamble" than some unknown from an unfashionable little club in Scotland.
NF has changed our style of play and put players in who many on here were calling lightweights, he definately deserves the job, but hey ho it's the boards decision. THE board who hired Butcher, Rosenior, Fitgerald and THE board who allowed Scott to throw money down the drain, sign inadequate players on long contracts, change the configuation of the stadium so he could shout at the players...........amazing !

sadly i agree with you. and he (foz) is, like us , brentford through and through. but what do we know.

if he gets the job good luck to him and i, for one, will support him like i do all our managers.

but i think it will be a mistake - and very bad timing as this bloke won't have seen us play or had a chance to make serious judgements on our squad. it has the making of yet another bfc balls-up.

 

[Stanley]

Not really interested in any "big name" signing but a manager who will do what's right for our club at this time and that suggests a talented, youngish manager used to operating on a tight budget ( St Johnstine have the lowest in the PL) and McInnes fits the bill as well as anyone. Sounds unpretentious and the type that would fit with OUR club ( Di Matteo and the like never did to me).

Any appointment is a gamble, this sounds like a reasoned one.

For me NF lost the job at Wembley.

 

[maddogging]

I like the idea of McInnes, funny how no one would have suggested him. Not too fussed about SPL stats, I am
sure Mr Benham would have used his contacts to build a picture about this bloke.

As for NF being bees through and through, were do you make this stuff up from !?!

 

[Doovster]

Nicky is far less a "gamble" than some unknown from an unfashionable little club in Scotland.
NF has changed our style of play and put players in who many on here were calling lightweights, he definately deserves the job, but hey ho it's the boards decision. THE board who hired Butcher, Rosenior, Fitgerald and THE board who allowed Scott to throw money down the drain, sign inadequate players on long contracts, change the configuation of the stadium so he could shout at the players...........amazing !

So if the board don't select the next manager who should? Perhaps a poll amongst the fans?

To be fair to The Board, as you put it, I do not believe MB nor Andrew Mills were responsible for any previous managerial appointments. Let's wait for the announcement and give the new man a chance before people start having heart attacks.