Derek McInnes Next Manager?

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Derek McInnes Next Manager?

Justin Edinburgh in the frame according to Chronny. I have plenty of Arsenic if anyone wants some
 

Derek McInnes Next Manager?

Justin Edinburgh in the frame according to Chronny. I have plenty of Arsenic if anyone wants some

I will have some!!!!!!!! Mid table finish with Rushden!!!! This is all getting a bit out of hand, fairn enough mccinnes, foz and roberto but justin edinburgh????? Get a grip bfc board!!! They sure know how not to sell season tickets if they appoint Justin!!!!
 

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glad i'm not making the decision... the differences of opinion on here show that whatever happens, the board are guaranteed to have got it wrong in some people's eyes... you can't please all the people all the time...

also, personally, the fact the board 'found' mcInnes themselves when noone on here even mentioned him, makes me comfortable with their decision making... sorry, but i do believe they will do a much better job finding the right person than a lot of us on here would do.

bumsuck over.
 

Derek McInnes Next Manager?

Justin Edinburgh in the frame according to Chronny. I have plenty of Arsenic if anyone wants some

but if he gets the job, they're all clueless.
 

Derek McInnes Next Manager?

I will have some!!!!!!!! Mid table finish with Rushden!!!! This is all getting a bit out of hand, fairn enough mccinnes, foz and roberto but justin edinburgh????? Get a grip bfc board!!! They sure know how not to sell season tickets if they appoint Justin!!!!

Matt, calm down ! Haha
 

Derek McInnes Next Manager?

Justin Edinburgh in the frame according to Chronny. I have plenty of Arsenic if anyone wants some

and sorry all justins out there, i can't take that name seriously anymore after watching Arfur's comment during the 'Royal Oak' Minder episode.
 

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1st. Di Matteo - Has knowledge of English footie, worked in lower leagues, good contacts, good football, prem manager imho unfairly sacked
2nd. Foz - Intelligent, articulate, wants us to play football, excellent knowledge of lower leagues, knows BFC.
3rd. Mccinnes - Poor signings, limited knowledge of lower level english footie, thinks duberry is quality when he was 5hit at Wycombe and signed Cleveland!!!!!

I apologise for earlier rants at the sweatys but on there forums and in there papers they seem to have the impression we are a small club, would be a step down for there manger, he could do better. What do Saints have to play for?? How far will they ever go?? At least we have a slightly better fan base which will improve, an ok budget apparently, good cups and promotion to the championship to play for!!! Not playing in a league were we cant better ourselves, signing players like duberry, cleveland and whoever else!!!! Someone on here earlier said that league 2 players seem to do well up there????? WTF......... does this not mean anything?? i know there is the odd exception but do we want to take the risk?? There were also some stats posted on here that seems a bit Andy Scott to me!!! We could be wrong and he could be great but i have a , AS, leroy, butcher feeling about him. I cant help it!!

For the love of God, man! You have not a CLUE what Derek McInnes contacts are in English football. Even if they are not so good, there are plenty of people at BFC who can help develop those contacts, not the least of which will be Matthew Benham. Do you seriously think West Brom and Burnley would have been interested in him in recent times if he didn't show enormous potential?

Your basis for bigging up Nicky Forster who has the grand total of 3 months footballing experience is that he is articulate and wants us to play good football. Marvellous. Let's sign him immediately. Nicky did a good job in conjunction with Warburton in keeping us up and in changing the style of football. He also presided over some utter disasters on the pitch so it was a mixed bag during his reign. If you want to talk about taking risks, there's one for you.

As for signings, please show me one manager anywhere in football in the UK who hasn't made a signing they have subsequently regretted. Especially a manager with a restricted playing budget.

What do St Johnstone have to play for... What the hell are you going on about? Brentford have the FA Cup, the League Cup and the Paint Pot to play for. We didn't win any of them. Does that have any great meaning? We are not a big club in my opinion. We have been stuck at our present level of football or lower for many years and have been woefully short of funds and very poorly run both on and off the pitch for long periods of time. We now have a very generous benefactor and a Board who are attempting to work together and do the right thing. That makes us big on potential. McInnes could be taking a real risk coming to us from the SPL so that door swings both ways.
 

Derek McInnes Next Manager?

out of the short list for me its Di matteo!! knows the leagues, got good contacts, no compensation to pay, nothing against the other 2 just dont hink they any better if at all than Di Matteo
 

Derek McInnes Next Manager?

out of the short list for me its Di matteo!! knows the leagues, got good contacts, no compensation to pay, nothing against the other 2 just dont hink they any better if at all than Di Matteo

I would love to get Di Matteo but I can imagine the wages are very high :(
 

Derek McInnes Next Manager?

Justin Edinburgh in the frame according to Chronny. I have plenty of Arsenic if anyone wants some

As long as you have enough for Justin Edinburgh. :mad1:

This is the **** that effectively ended Neil Smillie's career. Not welcome.
 

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I would love to get Di Matteo but I can imagine the wages are very high :(

Mills spoke about a 'final two' and a second round of interviews with these candidates. Assuming Di Matteo is in the 'final two', along with McInnes, I would be surprised if the wage issue hadn't already been discussed and agreed. Would be pointless getting so far only to find out we can't afford him!
 

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It would be ridculous to think if Di Matteo wanted the job and yet we pick DMc to be the new boss i think would be ridculous and silly
 

Derek McInnes Next Manager?

Di Matteo and McInnes? Mmm, I like the sound of them both. But which one will be best? There's only one way to find out... FIGHT...
 

Derek McInnes Next Manager?

I would love to get Di Matteo but I can imagine the wages are very high :(

Di Matteo may well command the highest but if he can work with our current No2 it maybe cheaper option than having to pay wages and compensation for both McInnes and his No 2. :fishing:
 

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In all seriousness, if Di Matteo wants the job and we can afford him I fail to see why we are still messing around interviewing other candidates. I am quite happy with McInnes but a premiership level manager who wants to come to little old Brentford would seem to make further discussion pointless as he would be far and away the best candidate.
 

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well foz didn't make the short-list.

i really feel for him. he kept us up (those with short memories look at the posts at year end - much talk of relegation, doom and gloom and hoof ball) and got us playing football.

hmmmmmm
 

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It would be ridculous to think if Di Matteo wanted the job and yet we pick DMc to be the new boss i think would be ridculous and silly

they both offer something different, and I would be happy if either were appointed, albeit I still favour McInnes. A West Brom mate of mine described DiMatteo in a text as being "initially good for us, but couldn't organise a defence. No plan B. Allegedly lost interest at the Albion. Out of his depth at Prem level but did well at MK Dons. He's also got a lovely smile...", which is in line with what other fans and football pundits say, particularly the lovely smile bit. Let's see what happens.
 

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Di Matteo may well command the highest but if he can work with our current No2 it maybe cheaper option than having to pay wages and compensation for both McInnes and his No 2. :fishing:

mcinnes is out of contract next month and so too, i presume, is his number two.
 

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Di Matteo may well command the highest but if he can work with our current No2 it maybe cheaper option than having to pay wages and compensation for both McInnes and his No 2. :fishing:
A wise man once said "if you buy cheap, you buy twice".

This is especially true with football managers.
 

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well foz didn't make the short-list.

i really feel for him. he kept us up (those with short memories look at the posts at year end - much talk of relegation, doom and gloom and hoof ball) and got us playing football.

hmmmmmm

And Warburton? More likely the main man behind our improvement? Any feelings for him? :(
 

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For what it's worth I cannot help but think we are looking a gift horse in the mouth not keeping NF. McInnes has no experience of league 1 and Scottish football is so poor I think it is misleading to look at his record there apart from the fact they have only scored 21 goals this season 9 AT HOME. Hardly the thrilling expansive football I crave. NF on the other hand has done a brilliant job since he became manager under really difficult circumstances, knows the players better than anyone, knows what we are lacking better than anyone, knows the club better than anyone. He has returned 1.7 points/game which would have comfortably seen us in the playoffs over a full season working with the same players who were plummeting towards relegation under Scott.

I would be much happier keeping Forster on a year contract than starting again with someone with no experience at our level. I hope I am totally wrong and that the jock does the business but at the moment I am unconvinced.

He has done a fantastic job at St Johnstone on smaller crowds than Hartlepool.
 

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In all seriousness, if Di Matteo wants the job and we can afford him I fail to see why we are still messing around interviewing other candidates. I am quite happy with McInnes but a premiership level manager who wants to come to little old Brentford would seem to make further discussion pointless as he would be far and away the best candidate.

Do we know that Di Matteo is on the actual short list?
 

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For the love of God, man! You have not a CLUE what Derek McInnes contacts are in English football. Even if they are not so good, there are plenty of people at BFC who can help develop those contacts, not the least of which will be Matthew Benham. Do you seriously think West Brom and Burnley would have been interested in him in recent times if he didn't show enormous potential?

Your basis for bigging up Nicky Forster who has the grand total of 3 months footballing experience is that he is articulate and wants us to play good football. Marvellous. Let's sign him immediately. Nicky did a good job in conjunction with Warburton in keeping us up and in changing the style of football. He also presided over some utter disasters on the pitch so it was a mixed bag during his reign. If you want to talk about taking risks, there's one for you.

As for signings, please show me one manager anywhere in football in the UK who hasn't made a signing they have subsequently regretted. Especially a manager with a restricted playing budget.

What do St Johnstone have to play for... What the hell are you going on about? Brentford have the FA Cup, the League Cup and the Paint Pot to play for. We didn't win any of them. Does that have any great meaning? We are not a big club in my opinion. We have been stuck at our present level of football or lower for many years and have been woefully short of funds and very poorly run both on and off the pitch for long periods of time. We now have a very generous benefactor and a Board who are attempting to work together and do the right thing. That makes us big on potential. McInnes could be taking a real risk coming to us from the SPL so that door swings both ways.

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they both offer something different, and I would be happy if either were appointed, albeit I still favour McInnes. A West Brom mate of mine described DiMatteo in a text as being "initially good for us, but couldn't organise a defence. No plan B. Allegedly lost interest at the Albion. Out of his depth at Prem level but did well at MK Dons. He's also got a lovely smile...", which is in line with what other fans and football pundits say, particularly the lovely smile bit. Let's see what happens.

But as said above Di Matteo has the experiance of being in this league, he got Mk and West Brom playing very good football, did anyone happen too see what west brom did at arsenal and man utd? he sets his side out too play no matter size of opposition and the players will look up to him. If hes willing to come to us you have to bite his hand off! Mciness knows Jack sh*t about english football and you want too no why i no? because he signed Taylor and Duberry....enough said. Forster has to be second choice if RDM isn't interested as he knows brentford inside out and presumbley already knows what do for next season. I gurantee will keep a lot of the players there next season to give them all "second chances". He will be just another butcher
 

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But as said above Di Matteo has the experiance of being in this league, he got Mk and West Brom playing very good football, did anyone happen too see what west brom did at arsenal and man utd? he sets his side out too play no matter size of opposition and the players will look up to him. If hes willing to come to us you have to bite his hand off! Mciness knows Jack sh*t about english football and you want too no why i no? because he signed Taylor and Duberry....enough said. Forster has to be second choice if RDM isn't interested as he knows brentford inside out and presumbley already knows what do for next season. I gurantee will keep a lot of the players there next season to give them all "second chances". He will be just another butcher

He signed them for a Scottish team and their fans rate Duberry very highly. I'm pleased you can give us inside info guarentees but I'd rather wait to hear it from McInnes himself thanks ;)

I'm utterly bewildered by some posts in this thread. The new manager situation really does seem to have highlighted some posters stupidity and ignorance.
 

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But as said above Di Matteo has the experiance of being in this league, he got Mk and West Brom playing very good football, did anyone happen too see what west brom did at arsenal and man utd? he sets his side out too play no matter size of opposition and the players will look up to him. If hes willing to come to us you have to bite his hand off! Mciness knows Jack sh*t about english football and you want too no why i no? because he signed Taylor and Duberry....enough said. Forster has to be second choice if RDM isn't interested as he knows brentford inside out and presumbley already knows what do for next season. I gurantee will keep a lot of the players there next season to give them all "second chances". He will be just another butcher

Ridiculous. NF has done what? MW has done more IMO. Di Matteo has been ok but probably playing us off with others. McInnes :shrug: He might be the breath of fresh air this club and board has just been looking for.
 

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As long as you have enough for Justin Edinburgh. :mad1:

This is the **** that effectively ended Neil Smillie's career. Not welcome.

if this is the case then no way is he welcome. smillie= legend, JE=spurs scum
 

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Mciness knows Jack sh*t about english football and you want too no why i no? because he signed Taylor and Duberry....enough said. Forster has to be second choice if RDM isn't interested as he knows brentford inside out and presumbley already knows what do for next season. I gurantee will keep a lot of the players there next season to give them all "second chances". He will be just another butcher

I bet you his predecessor at St. Johnstone, Owen Coyle signed some dross also.
Would you say no to Owen Coyle managing us?
Well, I'm not saying they're right, but the St. Johnstone fans generally rate McInnes higher than they do Coyle.
 

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Terry Butcher has done well in Scotland! Is that an advert for the quality of SPL management!
 

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Ridiculous. NF has done what? MW has done more IMO. Di Matteo has been ok but probably playing us off with others. McInnes :shrug: He might be the breath of fresh air this club and board has just been looking for.

Nicky Forster and Mark Warburton together have let the players play with a bit of freedom and play there own game? Mciness's St Johnston have scored 22 goals all season..breath of fresh air lol
 

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Nicky Forster and Mark Warburton together have let the players play with a bit of freedom and play there own game? Mciness's St Johnston have scored 22 goals all season..breath of fresh air lol

We've had reasons why, re goal scoring, unbelievable. This club needs fresh ideas. McInnes might well be what we need. NF isn't going to get the job, get over it, move on.
 

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People harp on about what happened yesterday and who did what, its not about yesterday its about tomorrow. The new manager must meet the critieria for what we are working towards. Fozzy has done well and there is much love for him from everyone associated with BFC, but is he the right person to take us forward. Heart should not rule the head, and there are no guarantees whoever is appointed however, the board have gone through a due dilligence process and look like they are on the verge of a decision that does not include Fozzy, that is the way it is in football. The board makes decisions on what they feel is best for the club, they are best placed, and we should have faith that for the first time in many years a thorough and professional process has been undertaken to find a new manager. Ok its not Fozzy get over it, I am sure he already has...
 

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Nicky Forster and Mark Warburton together have let the players play with a bit of freedom and play there own game? Mciness's St Johnston have scored 22 goals all season..breath of fresh air lol

Jesus wept, the board whittled down 60 applications to end up with their final recommendation. This was an exhaustive process based around a number key performance indicators (KPIs), an approach that I think is relatively unheard of at the Premiership level let alone ours. If McInnes came out on top of this process, given the extent of the people involved in the interviews and the level of detail that I know Matthew Benham has at hand then I think that says a lot about how highly regarded this chap is. He has been linked with Watford, West Brom and Burnley in the past, is considered by St Johnstone fans as being better than the man he replaced Owen Coyle and has achieved wonders on a shoestring budget.

The FACT that he signed Michael Duberry and Cleveland Taylor is irrelevant, they served a purpose and were met within a stringent budget. There's clearly something about this fella if he has managed to give Duberry a new lease of life north of the border, regardless of whatever standard of football some might think they play up there, when many darn sarf had already written his career off.
 
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St Johnstone v Hamilton on BBC Alba tommorrow Live.
 

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The FACT that he signed Michael Duberry and Cleveland Taylor is irrelevant, they served a purpose and were met within a stringent budget. There's clearly something about this fella if he has managed to give Duberry a new lease of life north of the border, regardless of whatever standard of football some might think they play up there, when many darn sarf had already written his career off.

Putting these 2 players in the same line is a joke, Duberry has been class over the last 15 months, Taylor is crap.
 

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Jesus wept, the board whittled down 60 applications to end up with their final recommendation. This was an exhaustive process based around a number key performance indicators (KPIs), an approach that I think is relatively unheard of at the Premiership level let alone ours. If McInnes came out on top of this process, given the extent of the people involved in the interviews and the level of detail that I know Matthew Benham has at hand then I think that says a lot about how highly regarded this chap is. He has been linked with Watford, West Brom and Burnley in the past, is considered by St Johnstone fans as being better than the man he replaced Owen Coyle and has achieved wonders on a shoestring budget.

The FACT that he signed Michael Duberry and Cleveland Taylor is irrelevant, they served a purpose and were met within a stringent budget. There's clearly something about this fella if he has managed to give Duberry a new lease of life north of the border, regardless of whatever standard of football some might think they play up there, when many darn sarf had already written his career off.

Not my opinion, but a most articulate post.

KPIs are new since my day as ceo of a London marketing / pr / events agency, and before that head of promotions at Capital Radio, but I am sure they are vital. At least until someone invents another buzz phrase. Then, of course, someone will re-route back to gut instinct. Twas ever thus.
 
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