Derek McInnes Next Manager?

[SmiffyBee]

The Scottish Premier League Season has not finished.
If McInnes is "the one", he won't be appointed until after St Johnstone's last game.

ps I stand rigid by every word of the content in 2 of my last 3 posts... :moo:

 

[Beesfan]

Our next biggest asset is Murray Davidson.

Dubes wants a move back down to London which is why Saints fans think he will follow McInnes if he is managing at Brentford next season.

My God, this is the is the scariest thing i've read in ages!!!! If this happens i will never watch a game under McInnes!!!

The same goes for Jody Morris!!!

 

[hatfieldbee]

My God, this is the is the scariest thing i've read in ages!!!! If this happens i will never watch a game under McInnes!!!

The same goes for Jody Morris!!!

You're a loyal supporter, of course...

 

[Beesfan]

You're a loyal supporter, of course...

lol of course!!!

 

[Old B]

Wrong thread but just seen that over the weekend Di Matteo backed from 40/1 to 9/2 (with Paddy Power) for the not yet vacant West Ham job, possibly why we have not secured him??

 

[eaglebee]

Our "angel", Matthew Benham, has made his money out of statistical analysis of football and it's entirely plausible, given McInnes' record, that he was "on the radar". As you can tell from this thread, our posters are an emotional bunch with often irrational opinions; MB does not work that way...

I imagine that McInnes-gate was started by Geoff Brown or Derek's agent

Good Post,

Matthew Benham is no mug, just a very successful business man who has obviously been looking at McInnes for some time and has managed very well to keep it things quite, as it should be, that’s why it’s taken us all by surprise, all the other rubbish talked is just the usual fantasies of the press who have no evidence whatsoever to base the truth on.

I also think that it's a done deal and now just waiting for the Scottish season to finish, the next question, What will happen with NF?

 

[StJohnstoneFc]

Duberry has been a rock in our defence and I would say the sole reason our defence has been excellent this season. One bad season with Wycombe team does not show the full picture. I have already given you the Stephen Dobbie example, crap with St Johnstone but tearing up the Championship. Dubbery's passion alone is an asset to have in your team for any younger players.

 

[absenteebee]

Duberry has been a rock in our defence and I would say the sole reason our defence has been excellent this season. One bad season with Wycombe team does not show the full picture. I have already given you the Stephen Dobbie example, crap with St Johnstone but tearing up the Championship. Dubbery's passion alone is an asset to have in your team for any younger players.

i wouldn't completely write him off yet especially if he works with a manager who instils confidence in him... might need him if leeds pay a million for legge... fishingrodthing

 

[scruff puppy pup]

He's the best and longest serving chariman in British Football and everything he says and does has St Johnstones' best interests at heart.

Wouldn't last long down south.

 

[Billy Hunt]

Wouldn't last long down south.

Why? :shrug:

 

[nick logan]

This is the only negative I could see too... if that idiot can get a team to beat Celtic it doesn't say a lot for the standard we are looking at...

To be fair, other than Bees TB has generally done quite well and in some cases very well. It doesn't always work out, thats life. Hodgson at Liverpool then West brom is a good example.

 

[jlove]

What was AS on £120k ?....McInnes would be looking at £200k, But then the old 50% tax kicks in above £150k. So £149k & a nice rented house in a leafy suburb should do it.

Where do you get these numbers from? They are laughable, IMHO!

 

[Gee Bee]

maybe because we have been looking for some time now?

in the ad business we all move around but in days not weeks. or months.

Are you a wind up or a dim-wit?

This is not the ad business and managers are not all available at a drop of a hat, they have contracts that need addressing and we gave the job on a caretaker basis to NF until our season end, so we are now 4 days after theseason finished without a manager.

Also I have found that ad men move around in days because they are sh*t and are shown the door.

 

[nick logan]

My God, this is the is the scariest thing i've read in ages!!!! If this happens i will never watch a game under McInnes!!!

The same goes for Jody Morris!!!

Don't be ridiculous. They have both been playing well and if we get DM then i will trust his judgement on signings.

 

[Brickie Chap]

Have we arranged the pre-season friendly yet?!?!??

 

[absenteebee]

To be fair, other than Bees TB has generally done quite well and in some cases very well. It doesn't always work out, thats life. Hodgson at Liverpool then West brom is a good example.

maybe he would have worked out with maurice malpas as his assistant manager rather than whoever he ended up with here.

 

[Freebee]

Personally I'm getting a bit hacked off now. Having been initially happy with the McInnes possibility, it now looks as though we haven't secured anything in terms of an offer to him nor the subsequent compensation. This looks like quite an investment. We are told he plays a short passing game. I can think of someone else who does that and couldn't the eventual wedge we might have to pay have been put in a new players kitty? So I'm back to Fozzy now. What he achieved with a stackful of injuries and a limp squad should be more than enough to back him. Would McInnes have done any better in the same circumstances? Doubt it.

I'm not hacked off but i agree with the rest 100%

ps I stand rigid by every word of the content in 2 of my last 3 posts... :moo:

You always come across as a nice fella smiffy but i can't say i've ever noticed much content lol

 

[nick logan]

Duberry has been a rock in our defence and I would say the sole reason our defence has been excellent this season. One bad season with Wycombe team does not show the full picture. I have already given you the Stephen Dobbie example, crap with St Johnstone but tearing up the Championship. Dubbery's passion alone is an asset to have in your team for any younger players.

Good post, but some on here just won't accept your very valid point. The game is littered with players who have bad times at clubs for a million different reasons. This is a player who played prem football . Who the fook would want to play at worst atmosphere ground in the World at Wycombe ?

 

[Carri Bee Un]

Nick, you are squirting the water pistol of sense at the bonfire of GPG mentalism, I wish you luck but you are ice skating uphill :salute:

 

[Paulo Bee]

Are you a wind up or a dim-wit?

This is not the ad business and managers are not all available at a drop of a hat, they have contracts that need addressing and we gave the job on a caretaker basis to NF until our season end, so we are now 4 days after theseason finished without a manager.

Also I have found that ad men move around in days because they are sh*t and are shown the door.

Fact!

 

[Paulo Bee]

Good post, but some on here just won't accept your very valid point. The game is littered with players who have bad times at clubs for a million different reasons. This is a player who played prem football . Who the fook would want to play at worst atmosphere ground in the World at Wycombe ?

What I can't understand is why you would live in hemel Hempstead and play Football in Scotland???

 

[SmiffyBee]

HA! Doesn't surprise me you are taking a dislike to Brown. Not many in the Scottish game like him as he is not afraid to tell it how it is! He's the best and longest serving chariman in British Football and everything he says and does has St Johnstones' best interests at heart.

Wouldn't last long down south.

Why? :shrug:

He's on Northampton Bees witch hunt list

 

[longdistancebee]

OK - it's official: I'm getting bored with this. Wake me up when a decision is made.

 

[chizbee]

I dont know why everyone's getting so exited..........
We will ALL have to wait and see.

All this "we want him,we dont want him" is irrevelant, WE DONT GET TO CHOOSE!!!! Calm down people.

When the powers to be decide then you can all vent your pleasure/anger.

 

[nick logan]

OK - it's official: I'm getting bored with this. Wake me up when a decision is made.

Yes its been 3 whole days already

 

[shouldbee]

To be fair, other than Bees TB has generally done quite well and in some cases very well. It doesn't always work out, thats life. Hodgson at Liverpool then West brom is a good example.

Wasn't he sacked by...

Coventry City
Sunderland
Sydney FC
and brentford

or have I dreamt this ?

 

[longdistancebee]

Yes its been 3 whole days already

Actually, it is 670+ posts i am bored with. When you have supported BFC as long as i have, 3 days is the blink of an eye.

 

[nick logan]

Wasn't he sacked by...

Coventry City
Sunderland
Sydney FC
and brentford

or have I dreamt this ?

Getting sacked doesn't mean you haven't done well. Carlo Ancelotti may reflect on this in the next few days.

 

[hitchinb]

i like the idea of McBrentford... new away kit "something we haven't had before" (Mills, 2011) is going to be tartan isn't it...

Kilts

 

[KD]

I have no idea about this appointment but in common with all the others over the years I have an expectation of attractive football, promotion to the Championship, a team that cares and fights and a manager that gives us some stability for decades. :bound::thetruth::banana::dj:

 

[Humblebee]

I know most of you don't look at Scottish football but you need to remember that BBC Scotland focus most of their attention on either the blue or green bigots. For such a big organisation they make so many errors on match reports its unreal.

McInnes is still under contract for another 2 years.

Thanks for the update; that's not mentioned in his profile on your club's website.

However, I see he spent only six months at Millwall before returning to Scotland because he couldn't take the travelling and being separated from his family. Maybe they won't want to move with him this time either, (despite the proximity to Heathrow/Gatwick/Luton with frequent flights to Edinburgh), in which case perhaps he will turn us down.

 

[shouldbee]

Getting sacked doesn't mean you haven't done well. Carlo Ancelotti may reflect on this in the next few days.

Can't pass a comment on the first 3 sackings, but do you think he "done well " for us ?

I don't think using Chelsea is a good example.

 

[maddogging]

What I can't understand is why you would live in hemel Hempstead and play Football in Scotland???

Both are sh*t !

 

[horshambees]

I dont understand that after we interviewed him, why did we then make an offer to his agent that his agent that was apparently so laughable that the agent did not even bother to put that offer to his client. Surely at the interview the salary parameters were discussed and if DM was not happy happy with these he would have told the panel. If that press report is correct it makes our selection team seem prize whatsits - "how much would you want" - ok, well put forward an offer nowhere near!!

Personally cant see someone like abee acting in that manner so on 2nd thoughts - all press reports must be 99% bull!

Reading the Scottish Press reports over the last few days,it seems that whoever is leaking the news to them is damning BFC as much as they can.Not making this any easier for those up there trying to negotiate a deal.Reporting that Mr Benham is worth 900,000,000 is nothing short of idiotic in my veiw and that would pave the way for Saints board to try and take the piss regarding compensation.No one knows how much Benham is worth so why report innacurracies.Chairman Brown will do his best to scupper this deal and i can see him succeeding.Maybe he had wind of this and gave the extended two year contracts to his team as they were due to expire at the end of this month thus securing over inflated compo packages.I wonder if our panel were aware of the extended two year deals especially as he has been on our radar for a few months now.Considering all other interviews have been held in secret and have been left to speculation as to who they are,i find this slightly embarrasing for the selection panel that this has become so public.The dignity and pride of our Football Club needs to remain intact throughout all of this time.

 

[absenteebee]

Reading the Scottish Press reports over the last few days,it seems that whoever is leaking the news to them is damning BFC as much as they can.Not making this any easier for those up there trying to negotiate a deal.Reporting that Mr Benham is worth 900,000,000 is nothing short of idiotic in my veiw and that would pave the way for Saints board to try and take the piss regarding compensation.No one knows how much Benham is worth so why report innacurracies.Chairman Brown will do his best to scupper this deal and i can see him succeeding.[B]Maybe he had wind of this and gave the extended two year contracts to his team as they were due to expire at the end of this month thus securing over inflated compo packages[/B].I wonder if our panel were aware of the extended two year deals especially as he has been on our radar for a few months now.Considering all other interviews have been held in secret and have been left to speculation as to who they are,i find this slightly embarrasing for the selection panel that this has become so public.The dignity and pride of our Football Club needs to remain intact throughout all of this time.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/s/st_johnstone/9019148.stm

unlikely. the bbc report is from september 2010 when he apparently signed a 2 year extension.

 

[hitchinb]

Have we arranged the pre-season friendly yet?!?!??

Cowdenbeath

 

[jharvey85]

More press shenanigans? http://www.thecourier.co.uk/Sport/F...nt-to-claim-saints-manager-derek-mcinnes.html

Says our initial offer has been rejected...

 

[1884]

My God, this is the is the scariest thing i've read in ages!!!! If this happens i will never watch a game under McInnes!!!

The same goes for Jody Morris!!!

your a true supporter then????

 

[Simon W]

The only people who actually know whats going on I would imagine are Messrs Mills, Bird, Benham& McInnes (and his agent)

If BFC are to appoint McInnes, there wont be an announcement before the end of the SPL season out of due respect to St Johnstone FC and their fans

So all this guessing of salaries, will he/won't he and how much compensation will come clear next week about Mon or Tues I reckon

I personally think its a done deal. When a club is given permission to talk to a manager and McInnes himself has admitted he has spoken to Brentford then he must be on his way

 

[1884]

More press shenanigans? http://www.thecourier.co.uk/Sport/F...nt-to-claim-saints-manager-derek-mcinnes.html

Says our initial offer has been rejected...

of course it has, a much sought after man like Del will obviously turn down the initial offer.
you gotta pay for quality.
after doing the deal with Del and Tony you will be doing a deal with our chairman on comp.
nothing less than 200k will see the deal through and we'll throw in Dubes for that.
Bargain I tell you.
best money you'll spend in a long time..

 

[nick logan]

Can't pass a comment on the first 3 sackings, but do you think he "done well " for us ?

I don't think using Chelsea is a good example.

Of course he didn't do well for us. Why do you always dig me out ?
The point i was making is that many managers have success and still get sacked. It doesn't make them bad managers.

 

[Orp_Bee]

making the (still fairly large) assumption that we sign up one of our shortlist does anyone think Fozzy may be kept on in some kind of assistant manager or more likely coaching capacity? doubt he'd want it i admit but u never kno.

 

[TW3Bee]

but bad luck with strikers this year done us

The bad luck being Cleveland Taylor.

 

[Brentford 4 Life]

Of course he didn't do well for us. Why do you always dig me out ?
The point i was making is that many managers have success and still get sacked. It doesn't make them bad managers.

Nick is making quite a simple point. Sir Alf Ramsey got sacked by the FA but it could be argued he is the best English manger ever. Another example is how an artist can make 5 great albums but 1 that flops and sells nothing, is that artist a bad artist or just got the music album wrong for that particular time? In the same way a manager can get their tactics wrong at a particular time and get the sack when previously those same tactics were genius. Its about how well they adapt which defines success, survival of the fittest and all that. Terry Butcher couldnt get it right in England but obviously has the winning -ish formula in Scotland.

 

[The Ghost Of Jim Morton]

1st. Di Matteo - Has knowledge of English footie, worked in lower leagues, good contacts, good football, prem manager imho unfairly sacked
2nd. Foz - Intelligent, articulate, wants us to play football, excellent knowledge of lower leagues, knows BFC.
3rd. Mccinnes - Poor signings, limited knowledge of lower level english footie, thinks duberry is quality when he was 5hit at Wycombe and signed Cleveland!!!!!

I apologise for earlier rants at the sweatys but on there forums and in there papers they seem to have the impression we are a small club, would be a step down for there manger, he could do better. What do Saints have to play for?? How far will they ever go?? At least we have a slightly better fan base which will improve, an ok budget apparently, good cups and promotion to the championship to play for!!! Not playing in a league were we cant better ourselves, signing players like duberry, cleveland and whoever else!!!! Someone on here earlier said that league 2 players seem to do well up there????? WTF......... does this not mean anything?? i know there is the odd exception but do we want to take the risk?? There were also some stats posted on here that seems a bit Andy Scott to me!!! We could be wrong and he could be great but i have a , AS, leroy, butcher feeling about him. I cant help it!!

Enough of this FFS. Saints have plenty to play for. We have reached 5 major cup semis in the last 4 seasons ( I see your best in your entire history is a fourth round in the LC and the quarters in the FA cup) We recently finished 3rd in the SPL , got to a LC final and qualified for Europe where we held a Monaco side including Bartez, Tresuget (sp) and a host of other well know european footballers 3-3 at McD. Last season we pumped Rangers 4-1, Hibs 5-1 and had a string of great results. This season, things have been tougher but we are still comfortable in the SPL and treached the Scottish cup Semi-final ( granted we were murder in that game and lost 3-0) I strongly object to some of the b***ocks you seem to enjoy talking, about something you clearly have a limited knowledge of. Right I have that off my chest..

Derek McInnes will most certainly be a good appointment should he accept the managers position at Brentford FC. Given his time spent playing in England and France as well as up here, he has a decent contact list and as has already been mentioned, his friendship with Owen Coyle is a bonus. I for one don't want him to go and without wishing to denegrate Brentford, if he does go, I think he could do better. All that said though, I suspect he sees Brentford as his route to the Championship either by taking Brentford up or by attracting the attention of Championship Chairmen with good results for you guys. I am sure he thinks that from that point on the EPL is only a matter of time and I tend to agree. I think he is a shoe in for the WBA job the next time it comes up should his plan work.

Who ever you get, can I just say that I wish you all the best for next season and hope like me, you have a great time watching and following your club..

Cheers...

Oh and PLEASE take Cleveland Taylor back. Infact I will pay his travel costs..

 

[1884]

Enough of this FFS. Saints have plenty to play for. We have reached 5 major cup semis in the last 4 seasons ( I see your best in your entire history is a fourth round in the LC and the quarters in the FA cup) We recently finished 3rd in the SPL , got to a LC final and qualified for Europe where we held a Monaco side including Bartez, Tresuget (sp) and a host of other well know european footballers 3-3 at McD. Last season we pumped Rangers 4-1, Hibs 5-1 and had a string of great results. This season, things have been tougher but we are still comfortable in the SPL and treached the Scottish cup Semi-final ( granted we were murder in that game and lost 3-0) I strongly object to some of the b***ocks you seem to enjoy talking, about something you clearly have a limited knowledge of. Right I have that off my chest..

Derek McInnes will most certainly be a good appointment should he accept the managers position at Brentford FC. Given his time spent playing in England and France as well as up here, he has a decent contact list and as has already been mentioned, his friendship with Owen Coyle is a bonus. I for one don't want him to go and without wishing to denegrate Brentford, if he does go, I think he could do better. All that said though, I suspect he sees Brentford as his route to the Championship either by taking Brentford up or by attracting the attention of Championship Chairmen with good results for you guys. I am sure he thinks that from that point on the EPL is only a matter of time and I tend to agree. I think he is a shoe in for the WBA job the next time it comes up should his plan work.

Who ever you get, can I just say that I wish you all the best for next season and hope like me, you have a great time watching and following your club..

Cheers...

Oh and PLEASE take Cleveland Taylor back. Infact I will pay his travel costs..

good post Ghosty but you'll just get an ignorant reply from matbee.
you get them at every club, obviously not a real football fan, lol.

 

[Freebee]

When Taylor was with us i thought he was treated pretty poorly by our previous manager,as were many other players.When he did get a chance it was either play to a rigid style or play on the wrong side of the park.

Since you've seen a fair bit of him can you tell us his failings in your opinion please m8?

 

[King Bee]

I think [McInnes] is a shoe in for the WBA job the next time it comes up should his plan work.

Please ignore mattbee85, I don't think he is representative of the vast majority of the contributors on this board who are quite happy for the club to be linked to McInnes. On the quote above, my West Brom mate pretty much said this to me the other day - he was highly regarded by them in the team that took them to the Premiership first time round and have high hopes he'll one day return to the Hawthorns as their manager.

 

[sonofabee]

Enough of this FFS. Saints have plenty to play for. We have reached 5 major cup semis in the last 4 seasons ( I see your best in your entire history is a fourth round in the LC and the quarters in the FA cup) We recently finished 3rd in the SPL , got to a LC final and qualified for Europe where we held a Monaco side including Bartez, Tresuget (sp) and a host of other well know european footballers 3-3 at McD. Last season we pumped Rangers 4-1, Hibs 5-1 and had a string of great results. This season, things have been tougher but we are still comfortable in the SPL and treached the Scottish cup Semi-final ( granted we were murder in that game and lost 3-0) I strongly object to some of the b***ocks you seem to enjoy talking, about something you clearly have a limited knowledge of. Right I have that off my chest..

Derek McInnes will most certainly be a good appointment should he accept the managers position at Brentford FC. Given his time spent playing in England and France as well as up here, he has a decent contact list and as has already been mentioned, his friendship with Owen Coyle is a bonus. I for one don't want him to go and without wishing to denegrate Brentford, if he does go, I think he could do better. All that said though, I suspect he sees Brentford as his route to the Championship either by taking Brentford up or by attracting the attention of Championship Chairmen with good results for you guys. I am sure he thinks that from that point on the EPL is only a matter of time and I tend to agree. I think he is a shoe in for the WBA job the next time it comes up should his plan work.

Who ever you get, can I just say that I wish you all the best for next season and hope like me, you have a great time watching and following your club..

Cheers...

Oh and PLEASE take Cleveland Taylor back. Infact I will pay his travel costs..

Top post, thanks but please keep Cleveland

 

[Old B]

When a club is given permission to talk to a manager and McInnes himself has admitted he has spoken to Brentford then he must be on his way

But where to - is he hoping a more high profile job offer will come his way by leaking talks of our interest and interview?