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If it gets us three points I couldn't give two hoots.
 

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against mansfield charlie had a definite penalty turned down and the one against barnet wasnt a pen so it evens it self out
 

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The player made a clumsy attempt to get the ball and Charlie took advantage. Forwards up and down the land do it most weeks.
 

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Not a dive. And the second one was a foul that started outside the box but continued into it and the ref is not obliged to penalise the first offence.
 

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The expected set of responses :D

In fairness I was perfectly situated to see the 'foul', in the BA stand. Charlie had the ball with no options and you could almost see him think 'let's take the ball in to that bunch of 3 defenders and fall over'. I saw what I saw, and it was a man falling over...not being tripped (and there's a difference)

It was the first time in 18 years that my reaction to a Brentford penalty wasn't :bound:

If the teams were reversed and it was a Barnet player falling over like that, I would have been fuming. And so would you lot, you know it :sorted:
 
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Charlie's pen was dubious, but there was some contact, so I didn't see it as a dive, just a fortunate decision.

I don't think the offence for the second foul continued into the box, but I'm glad to see the forward get the benefit of the doubt on a cynical foul like that - I might change my mind when we're on the receiving end of that sort of decision.
 

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BuzzBeeSi said:
The expected set of responses :D

In fairness I was perfectly situated to see the 'foul', in the BA stand. Charlie had the ball with no options and you could almost see him think 'let's take the ball in to that bunch of 3 defenders and fall over'. I saw what I saw, and it was a man falling over...not being tripped (and there's a difference)

It was the first time in 18 years that my reaction to a Brentford penalty wasn't :bound:

If the teams were reversed and it was a Barnet player falling over like that, I would have been fuming. And so would you lot, you know it :sorted:
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fair enough, but the tv pics show for me that it was a pen. Ide did exactly the right thing, attack the three defenders, generally you will find one of them will make a rash challenge, Hendon definately stuck a leg out and made contact with Ide, and his initial reaction was to double bluff the ref with diving signs.
 

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There was contact - the defenders (3 of them around him) were stupid to dive in - they should have stood up to him and shepherded him to the goal line - he had no passing options and would most probably have lost posession. Defender was at fault for sticking his foot out, and Charlie saw it and ran over it.... pen
 

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BuzzBeeSi said:
Who taught Charlie to dive?

I do not wish to see such antics again :nono:
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Would be very interesting to see if you are of the same opinion should we get promoted by the 2 points gained by this penno come the end of the season.

I dont like diving but as Butcher said we should of had 2 pennos already this season and didn't get either.

Unfortunately the standard of reffing is so so poor these days players can easily take the p**s and get away with it.

So i dont see anything wrong with making a meal out of it .. other players do and taking the moral stance would get us nowhere huh.
 

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Personally I'd prefer the Willock style dive of unintentionally falling over, much more entertaining and he could even claim the higher moral ground.
 

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BuzzBeeSi said:
The expected set of responses :D

In fairness I was perfectly situated to see the 'foul', in the BA stand. Charlie had the ball with no options and you could almost see him think 'let's take the ball in to that bunch of 3 defenders and fall over'. I saw what I saw, and it was a man falling over...not being tripped (and there's a difference)

It was the first time in 18 years that my reaction to a Brentford penalty wasn't :bound:

If the teams were reversed and it was a Barnet player falling over like that, I would have been fuming. And so would you lot, you know it :sorted:
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Try Calum Willock with the airshot and Rankin vs Bradford tripping over his own feet that saw the player sent off as 2 pens given that weren't.

It's swings and roundabouts, plenty don't go our way, Gillingham last year, Clark shouldn't have been sent off, hated their bloke for diving but nowadays if a defender/keeper makes contact in the box, most forwards will go to ground and IMHO that's OK. If it goes against us I swear and curse, if for I laugh as would most fans up and down the country.
 

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sonofabee said:
Try Calum Willock with the airshot and Rankin vs Bradford tripping over his own feet that saw the player sent off as 2 pens given that weren't.
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They were from the referee's incompetency, whereas this one I think was playacting. But I take your point.
 

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Jimbee said:
Check the reaction of the player who conceded it, does not make any attempt to dispute it.
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Sorry, but that is completely wrong. Just seen replay again, and again, on sky sports. The player who gave away the foul immediately turned to the ref and made a diving motion with his arms.
 

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Edmundo said:
Er, how about Ronaldo?
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Rooney's dive against Arsenal, when Man Utd cheated to a 2-0 win to break the record in the pizzagate match was one of the best ever.
 

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Gee Bee said:
Tabb got a couple. :fishing: and also got booked for diving too on at least one occassion
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I'm not saying we've never had a penalty decision that shouldn't have been, but it was the first time in 18 years that my reaction wasn't :bound:, probably purely because I was right behind him in a perfect position to see him let himself fall to the ground, whereas the others I assumed were legit at the time.
 

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BuzzBeeSi said:
Sorry, but that is completely wrong. Just seen replay again, and again, on sky sports. The player who gave away the foul immediately turned to the ref and made a diving motion with his arms.
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Yep, sorry, I thought the foul was by the other defender who just put his hands on his head.
 

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Looked to me on the highlights which I've just checked again like the far defender got his foot to the front of the ball which Ide fell over.
 

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I was nearly behind the incident without doubt he was tripped. At least he had the sense to fall over instead of carrying on. :sorted:
 

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His little legs would'nt of carried him on lol His diving is because he is light weight lol
 

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why would he dive because hes light weight,you aint got a scooby doo !
 

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Charlie Bear is only 11 stone, give him a break ;)
 

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Wonder how many people would be saying that now if we'd been given a pen and had gone 2-0 up?
 

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Well its not like their right back went down very easy when weston ( i think ) stole the ball off of him, and we had a 3 on 1. FFS some people are never happy :banghead:
 

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It looked like a stonewall penalty to me
 
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