do we need another midfielder?

[1_J_TABB]

Now Hargreaves and Talbot have gone the midfield looks very lacking in depth. If Skulason and Newman get injured we've only got Hutch and possibly Tabb as cover.

 

[Les Beeavinu]

Dobbo or O'Connor?

 

[Canadian Bee]

yeah we probably do now that chris is gone.

 

[loyalbee]

i am more worried about the lack of cover at centre back if sodje or turner were out for any reason

 

[JTofBFC]

i am more worried about the lack of cover at centre back if sodje or turner were out for any reason

Gayle, Frampton ??

I think we are one midfielder and one wide player short of a decent squad. Would pass on the wide player if there was a realistic hope Rhodes would be fit soon.........anyone know.

 

[Datchetbee]

We need a flair player in the middle of the park. We are sorted i believe (defensively) when it comes to Skullason and Newman, but they are'nt really known for scroing or creating and goals from midfield.I havent ruled out the possibility of Tabb playing central but then again that would leave us short on the wing if we done that!!
We deffinately need atleast one maybe even two, but i doubt MA has the funds!

 

[owusu_is_home]

Rhodes would be fit soon.........anyone know.

december i have heard

 

[mattfarr89]

another one would be good

 

[Brentford_till_die]

Posistions players CAN play:

Gk: Nelson, Bankole

Def: Kev, Dobbo, Turns, Sodj, Frampton, Tillen, Gayle, Newman, Skulason

Mid: Kev, Dobbo, Gayle, Newman, Skulason, Tabb, Rhodes, Rankin, Brooker, Hutch,

ST: Owusu, Dudley, Fitz, Rankin, Peters, Gayle, Rhodes

To me we have players that can play anywhere but not enough !!!

1 more new defender, 1 more creative midfielder like Evans and maybe a target man !

 

[Jimbee]

Now Hargreaves and Talbot have gone the midfield looks very lacking in depth. If Skulason and Newman get injured we've only got Hutch and possibly Tabb as cover.

So, no different to last season then except that we brought in a loanee for the last couple of months.

 

[oakes12]

The squad does seem very small at only 20 players. However last year (not counting kids) we only started with 21 inc Peters plus Turner on loan.
Straight swaps have been:-

Owusu for Burton
Tillen for Myers
Brooker for Hunt
Newman for Talbot
Skulason for Hargreaves
Turner for Fitz the elder
Gayle for Salako
Campbell for Harrold
Bankole for Julian

We have also lost Somner and Smith and gained Fitz 2.

Remembering that Rhodes is out until the new year it does make us short in midfield. Hopefully MA will come up with a loan deal or two to cover this and any other long term injuries.

 

[oakes12]

Just spent ages writing last post and BTD beat me to it . Sorry everyone rofl

 

[Mr Cynical]

We definitely need another midfielder and cover at centre back IMHO

 

[tobyw]

We definitely need another midfielder and cover at centre back IMHO

agreed - if we can get those in then I think we've got the makings of a pretty decent side (on paper)...

 

[Inappropriate Smilies Bee]

Posistions players CAN play:

Gk: Nelson, Bankole

Def: Kev, Dobbo, Turns, Sodj, Frampton, Tillen, Gayle, Newman, Skulason

Mid: Kev, Dobbo, Gayle, Newman, Skulason, Tabb, Rhodes, Rankin, Brooker, Hutch,

ST: Owusu, Dudley, Fitz, Rankin, Peters, Gayle, Rhodes

To me we have players that can play anywhere but not enough !!!

1 more new defender, 1 more creative midfielder like Evans and maybe a target man !

excellent. i think looking at that the only dodgy position is goalkeeper.

 

[Inappropriate Smilies Bee]

Now Hargreaves and Talbot have gone the midfield looks very lacking in depth. If Skulason and Newman get injured we've only got Hutch and possibly Tabb as cover.

why only POSSIBLY jay tabb. he ain't leaving too is he??

 

[mattfarr89]

why dont we put a sneaky bid in for gerrard? he's destined to leave...

 

[Bush Tuckerman]

I'm not sure that liverpool will accept the 6 chomps and a packet of pork scratchings that's left in our transfer kitty :sad:

 

[warwickroadbee]

excellent. i think looking at that the only dodgy position is goalkeeper.

completely disagree.... nelson is one of the best keepers in the division. End of.

 

[BeeSinceBirth]

i think Inappropriate Smilies Bee means our reserve keeper...

 

[warwickroadbee]

i think Inappropriate Smilies Bee means our reserve keeper...

fair enough.. bankole is THE Worst keper in the division

 

[brighton bee]

we have only 2 wingers until rhodes gets fit-3 if you count gayle-surely this needs to be adressed as well?

 

[Billy Hunt]

fair enough.. bankole cooks THE Worst kipper in the division

 

[LboroBee]

oh cod, not these fish puns again, please !

 

[Billy Hunt]

oh cod, not these fish puns again, please !

Oh sh*t what have I done??? :sad:

I deserve to be battered for this.

 

[Beesnut]

I think that the squad we have is manageable for next season,but extra depth wouldn't go amiss

 

[jamiesondarren]

I think that the squad we have is manageable for next season,but extra depth wouldn't go amiss

I agree.

I'd like to see a reliable defender on the scene.

 

[Inappropriate Smilies Bee]

i think Inappropriate Smilies Bee means our reserve keeper...

i meant both of them mate. the rest of the positions look like we've got a lot of good options. :zzzzz: :zzzzz: :zzzzz: :zzzzz:

 

[Braemar Malc]

Steven Gerrard could do a decent Talbot/Hargreaves job I suppose.

 

[j4yc3e]

yeah!! best get that cheque book out MA rofl rofl rofl

 

[Les Beeavinu]

We could do a deal like you see for Ferraris and hire him for a weekend. Preferably one where we had a match.

 

[1_J_TABB]

So, no different to last season then except that we brought in a loanee for the last couple of months.

We also had Lawrence for most of last season. Never rated him much myself but I'll never forget that crunching tackle on that cocky little s**t Lita.

 

[matt buzzbee]

So does Salmon Rushdie.

 

[matt buzzbee]

....oops....this in reply to #25.I must be hard of herring.

 

[LboroBee]

....oops....this in reply to #25.I must be hard of herring.

yup, that joke flew over most peoples heads, poor soles !

 

[JTofBFC]

I wasn't at the friendly yesterday but have heard first hand reports from a couple of people.

I'm wondering if we have just switched personnel almost like for like without addressing the deficiencies from last year.

Tillen for Myers -probably a big improvement.
Newman and Skullason for Talbs and Hairman - 2 defensive minded midfielders to replace the same.
Owusu for Burton. A player who cant hold the ball up for a player who can.
Campbell for Harrold - jury out but probably better goal return.
Brooker for Hunt (or Salako) - nothing better to be honest.

We seemed to be lacking creativity in midfield or at least a midfielder who could get up with the front players to support them and get on the end of things. Maybe we still are.

Have we just swapped round different names but same style.

I hope not !!!

...............waiting to be convinced.

 

[The Joker]

We seemed to be lacking creativity in midfield or at least a midfielder who could get up with the front players to support them and get on the end of things.

Is the a role for Tabb? Or do we see him as a winger/dribbler who needs to play either on the wing or pretty close to/part of the forward line?

 

[JTofBFC]

Well Tabb was here last year so unless he has improved dramatically I'd be surprised if he was the answer.

If I'm being honest about Tabby, I see him as a bit part player who lacks confidence currently. Next season is crucial for him if he is going to be anything other than a lower division journeyman. He was poor last year and can't really blame injuries, he ws just plain poor, although did good things in fits and starts. He has talent but lacks something -not sure what.

I'm more excited about Rhodes who I think will be fit well before the December prediction but will he be able to pick up where he left off.

 

[Mr Cynical]

I wasn't at the friendly yesterday but have heard first hand reports from a couple of people.

I'm wondering if we have just switched personnel almost like for like without addressing the deficiencies from last year.

Tillen for Myers -probably a big improvement.
Newman and Skullason for Talbs and Hairman - 2 defensive minded midfielders to replace the same.
Owusu for Burton. A player who cant hold the ball up for a player who can.
Campbell for Harrold - jury out but probably better goal return.
Brooker for Hunt (or Salako) - nothing better to be honest.

We seemed to be lacking creativity in midfield or at least a midfielder who could get up with the front players to support them and get on the end of things. Maybe we still are.

Have we just swapped round different names but same style.

I hope not !!!

...............waiting to be convinced.

you're probably right. It was interesting that Tabby started in central midfield rather than on the wing maybe MAs trying to address this but I don't think that'll work unless Tabby's given a free role with two defensive midfielders behind him.. i think Sjulason may help us play a bit more football though, he looked the sort of player who would win the ball and pass it on the floor, which is something we've been missing in midfield..

i think you're being more than a little harsh on Lloydy though, he's been brought in to score goals, not hold the ball up. DJ looked very useful on sat so we may have better options up front this year.. although I would have loved Deon to stay too..

 

[Edmundo]

Rhodes who I think will be fit well before the December prediction

Any reason for thinking this? Inside info or something? Or just the triumph of hope over experience? (I've never heard of a player taking much less than twelve months to recover from a cruciate ligament injury - that said, I would be delighted if Alex was to do so!)

 

[NorthamptonBee]

Any reason for thinking this? Inside info or something? Or just the triumph of hope over experience? (I've never heard of a player taking much less than twelve months to recover from a cruciate ligament injury - that said, I would be delighted if Alex was to do so!)

Is it not strange to see AR running with the others around the pitch and being told he is at least 5 months away from recovery.
I'm slightly worried about the creativity in the middle ala last season, Oli didn't strike me as one of these. Hope to be very wrong.

 

[Boston Bee]

With knees, not really unfortunately. Straight jogs: no problems. Cutting left and right at full-sprint? Months from now in terms of strength and stability. And most of all, this is one of those things that is easy to re-tear (with another year off and after that an even much worse off knee) so there is a slowly-slowly attitude (note: I did something similar so can relate to the process).

Don't get hopes up for him too soon.

Is it not strange to see AR running with the others around the pitch and being told he is at least 5 months away from recovery.

 

[j4yc3e]

I think we need to get in another goalkeeper for the time being to cover for Nelson whilst he's injured. Bankole allways makes me nervous when he plays (all though he did pull off a good point blank save against Staines at the weekend, but also messed around with it when the ball was played back to his feet). Masters looked very inexperienced (which he would, no doubt) but did have an almost solid game forgeting about when he rushed out of the box.

Maybe a keeper on loan is the medicine, just untill January.

I think we have ample cover (for a while) in center def and mid, Gayle played well as a make-shift center def even though he might be a tad too slow when it comes to League 1 opposition, but he is awsome in the air. He could also fill in at center mid if asked and could just be a target man. Ed has his off days but we know when it coes to the crunch he will allways put in 100%.

I think our wide men maybe lacking, maybe another to open up the attacking oppertunities.

All in all though we have a very good solid first 11, itsjust keeping them fit and injury free thats going to be the test.

 

[Les Beeavinu]

Ed has his off days but we know when it coes to the crunch he will allways put in 100%.

If I played for Brentford, I'd give 100% but I wouldn't expect to get in the first team without a bit of ability.

 

[BeeAlzibub]

In an ideal world I would like to see cover at centrehalf , a creative midielder & a "big" centre forward.

We don't live in an ideal world !

I would suspect Martin Allen & Ron Griffin are trawling the market for a couple of young loans here & there as the season kicks off. Let's hope so anyway.

I do think however the Icelandic kid will be a top player this season. He will work his nuts off, always look to pass the ball, never hide, tackle etc etc & then probably get slagged off in some quarters ala Stuart Talbot just because he's not beating the opposing full back for skill & pace & then slicing his cross in to the Ealing Road !

 

[swr22]

I have not seen enough of him to judge, but Junior Lewis is being released and was once highly rated:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/h/hull_city/4680599.stm

 

[Bee H]

I would suspect Martin Allen & Ron Griffin are trawling the market !

So what's John Griffin doing then while all this is going on ? :scratch:




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As long as we've got enough not to have Eddie out there, I'm happy !



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[hanworthbee]

im sure he's older than 21?

 

[Gee Bee]

im sure he's older than 21?

He's 31, must of been a typo.

Also since becoming a professional in 1996 he has played only 142 games.

 

[Les Beeavinu]

I have not seen enough of him to judge, but Junior Lewis is being released and was once highly rated:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/h/hull_city/4680599.stm

I don't know much about it other than the fact that most of the supporters of the teams he's played for usually rate him as their worst player.