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Yes! We have too many players for our level and AS is trying to keep them all happy. He likes to shuffle the pack as we all know.

There is real quality in the squad.

Things will get sorted.:sorted:

We don't have too many players, will you please stop banging on.
Please read Kevalutonbee's post and digest it.
 

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Have the changes so far been what we need or not?
How do you replace that keeper, impossible and we've gone down a notch or two but better than what we started with.
LB, no chance of replacing him, Woodman is fine but not in the same league even though his is.
KOC or Foster at RB, toss a coin job.
The midfield is better for the re-introduction of Dave but the whole world knows that it should be Dave and another and another doesn't mean Bean, KOC or Hunt.
The same 2 fight it out on the left and they are more than good enough.
Alexander is a massive improvement on Strevens.
Pim and Legge against Bennett and Phillips is a no brainer even though it hasn't looked it so far.
Forster better that Chaz, maybe or maybe not but good competition for both.
RM hasn't been resolved, Simpson has done well but I was hoping for better and is he really the answer to that spot? Time will tell.
I would suggest that we have gone forward in some areas and back in others, we have better strength in depth and a much stronger bench because of this.
How much forward have we actually gone and are we going to have plug it all with loans again? I really hope not.

Spillane?
 

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and if he doesnt rate saunders then sell him, wasting money unnecessarily
 

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I think some people have overreacted here, just a little bit.

What we're lacking is real CONSISTENCY - whether it be in team selection, or in individual player performances. In our opening three games, we've had 3 different selections across the back four, and used two goalkeepers, hardly the way to get a solid unit. Now I don't agree that Pim should just walk back in to the team, and he hasn't played all that well, but that's because he hasn't had a pre-season to speak of. What Andy needs to do is pick his Best XI from his (very strong) squad and stick with it, stop meddling.

The goalkeeping issue is quite frankly ridiculous. Simon Moore has shown some real promise but is still finding his feet in the League. But, he or Richard Lee have to play, that's what they're here for, and failing that, play Royce. Szczesny was great, but lets have a settled No. 1, and get behind him, and not a rotating door for loanees!

The criticism of Craig Woodman is simply crazy. He has a great left foot, is solid defensively, and has worked really hard on his attacking game over the summer. He and Wood were superb first half against Cheltenham, and decent against Walsall as well.

The next inconsistency is Myles Weston. He's either brilliant, or next to useless. He's got to be on his game week in, week out, or he simply shouldn't play - Wood gives 100% every time, and I'm not convinced we get that from Myles, which is a shame because he has the skills required to be devestating in this division.

The right-hand side is still a problem imo. Simpson has shown promise, but looks a little uncomfortable running with the ball, but I'd like to give him more of a chance before I judge. Saunders as his back-up isn't enough to push Simpson for his place though, so getting Hudson fit is essential to enhancing that position, either by pushing Simpson, or taking his place. Alternatively, play Spillane. OK, he may not have been in the game @ Carlisle, but he has undoubted quality, and would be an asset in this division anywhere o the right-hand side.

The four forwards in this squad I cannot fault. All 4 give 100%, and have proven quality, not just over their careers, but in their time at Brentford. They will score hatfulls of goals if the service comes, which I think it will from Wood/Weston, Diagouraga, and hopefully a steadily improving right-hand side. Possibly Bean isn't the way to go in midfield, he's no longer the box-to-box player he was in League 2, but there is still 100% commitment.

There's a lot for us Bees fans to be positive about, and I wouldn't be surprised to see us go on a good run now, beat Swindon & Rochdale, and progress in both cups (Carling & JPT). Let's get behind the boys, and believe that Andy will do as he always has, and get the balance right eventually.
 

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and if he doesnt rate saunders then sell him, wasting money unnecessarily

:imwith:

I think this could be a thread topic all on its own

I am sure there is a sound, if not always obvious, rationale behind most of AS team selections but keeping a SS as a squad member both this season and last and then never let him near the side is stranger even than using non RB players in that role rather than using Spillane.
 

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Yes! We have too many players for our level

Just checked squads within our division and pretty much each club seem to have 24 plus players. :confused:
I suspect a few clubs possibly including ours will loan players out too once the transfer window closes and the only options are loans until January.
 

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I think some people have overreacted here, just a little bit.

What we're lacking is real CONSISTENCY - whether it be in team selection, or in individual player performances. In our opening three games, we've had 3 different selections across the back four, and used two goalkeepers, hardly the way to get a solid unit. Now I don't agree that Pim should just walk back in to the team, and he hasn't played all that well, but that's because he hasn't had a pre-season to speak of. What Andy needs to do is pick his Best XI from his (very strong) squad and stick with it, stop meddling.

The goalkeeping issue is quite frankly ridiculous. Simon Moore has shown some real promise but is still finding his feet in the League. But, he or Richard Lee have to play, that's what they're here for, and failing that, play Royce. Szczesny was great, but lets have a settled No. 1, and get behind him, and not a rotating door for loanees!

The criticism of Craig Woodman is simply crazy. He has a great left foot, is solid defensively, and has worked really hard on his attacking game over the summer. He and Wood were superb first half against Cheltenham, and decent against Walsall as well.

The next inconsistency is Myles Weston. He's either brilliant, or next to useless. He's got to be on his game week in, week out, or he simply shouldn't play - Wood gives 100% every time, and I'm not convinced we get that from Myles, which is a shame because he has the skills required to be devestating in this division.

The right-hand side is still a problem imo. Simpson has shown promise, but looks a little uncomfortable running with the ball, but I'd like to give him more of a chance before I judge. Saunders as his back-up isn't enough to push Simpson for his place though, so getting Hudson fit is essential to enhancing that position, either by pushing Simpson, or taking his place. Alternatively, play Spillane. OK, he may not have been in the game @ Carlisle, but he has undoubted quality, and would be an asset in this division anywhere o the right-hand side.

The four forwards in this squad I cannot fault. All 4 give 100%, and have proven quality, not just over their careers, but in their time at Brentford. They will score hatfulls of goals if the service comes, which I think it will from Wood/Weston, Diagouraga, and hopefully a steadily improving right-hand side. Possibly Bean isn't the way to go in midfield, he's no longer the box-to-box player he was in League 2, but there is still 100% commitment.

There's a lot for us Bees fans to be positive about, and I wouldn't be surprised to see us go on a good run now, beat Swindon & Rochdale, and progress in both cups (Carling & JPT). Let's get behind the boys, and believe that Andy will do as he always has, and get the balance right eventually.

And that sums it up nicely. Top post! :sorted:
 

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If we're still only 6 points off top at the end of the season, we'll make the play-offs at worst, so what's the problem? :cool:
 

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.....Now I don't agree that Pim should just walk back in to the team, and he hasn't played all that well, but that's because he hasn't had a pre-season to speak of....

A lot of people have said Pim didn't have a pre-season - but didn't I read that he spent three weeks training with us before signing?
 

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A lot of people have said Pim didn't have a pre-season - but didn't I read that he spent three weeks training with us before signing?

Training is not the same as match time and I don't think it was for 3 weeks either. He had no pre season friendlies, in this country anyway. Trialled for German club side and may have played a brief spell for them.
 

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No need to panic. AS in the Standard says we are not going to win the league which probably means we wont finish second or get in the play offs, so mid table it will be.

Just relax sit back and enjoy a nothing season.
 

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When you see those dugouts and couple that with rebus and nana in the posh seats, you realise how "non-league" we actually are.


....................had to smile at that one..................ironic, really.....................
 

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No panic from my end, we will finish top ten, and i just love watching long ball lumping.:rolleyes:
 

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I am disappointed at the start we have had. However, I believe we have the strongest squad and best management we have had for a long time.

It seems that some people cannot see this and would like a knee jerk reaction to 2 bad results.

How short memories can be. A few years ago we were struggling in the 4th division and on the verge of bankruptcy. Now we are in a position we could not have dreamed of then.

Come on guys, get behind the team and management. If they were gone tomorrow where would we be then?
 
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