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More games seem to have no more goals in ET and then go to pens

But obviously the better teams should win over 120 mins

Especially in early rounds of the Cup
 

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I always liked golden goal, but not many seem to agree. We are seeing more and more games go all the way to pens as teams become risk averse and don't want to overstretch tired legs.

I think going straight to pens Carabao style isn't the fairest system, as it doesn't give enough time for a deserved victor to emerge. But it's also a bit more fun. It's nice knowing you don't have to sit through 30 mins of probably boring football before getting an answer on a winner.
 

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I always liked golden goal, but not many seem to agree. We are seeing more and more games go all the way to pens as teams become risk averse and don't want to overstretch tired legs.

I think going straight to pens Carabao style isn't the fairest system, as it doesn't give enough time for a deserved victor to emerge. But it's also a bit more fun. It's nice knowing you don't have to sit through 30 mins of probably boring football before getting an answer on a winner.
I think one of the arguments against golden goal was that it put too much pressure on match officials in the event of a tight or controversial decision. VAR significantly reduces that risk (in theory at least), but I still can't see it being resurrected.

I'd have been happy to watch 15 minutes less of Argentina last night though.
 

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More games seem to have no more goals in ET and then go to pens

I took careful note of this during the tournament because I suspect that FIFA are itching to get rid of extra time and just go straight to penalties. Of the 9 knockout stage matches that were level at 90 minutes the majority, five of them, were resolved by a goal in extra time. Only 4 went to penalties. That's got to be a good thing.

When you think of the classic matches of the past extra time was a key ingredient in so many of them. It would be sad to see it go.
 

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I hate penalties. Just a terrible way of deciding a match. The fewer games that are decided that way the better for the integrity of the competition so extra time should stay.

Maybe you could just have a sudden death next-goal-wins period after the 90 minutes, but with each team sacrificing a player every 5 minutes.
 

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3 shot penalty shootout first and if there's a clear winner, losing team gets 15 minutes extra time to level or win. If they don't, penalty shoot out stands. If no clear winner after extra time, 3 shot penalty shootout then sudden death.

NB: I made all of that up, haven't thought any of it through.
 

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I hate penalties. Just a terrible way of deciding a match. The fewer games that are decided that way the better for the integrity of the competition so extra time should stay.

Maybe you could just have a sudden death next-goal-wins period after the 90 minutes, but with each team sacrificing a player every 5 minutes.
I watched a video on this on youtube recently. Suggestion was, if tied at full time, each manager takes off 2 players, so you go 9 vs 9. If still tied after 10 minutes, you go 7 v 7. If tied after another 10 minutes you go 5 v 5. First goal wins. The benefit of this to me is a. It's makes the extra time very exciting and b. it takes away the burden on players on being the culprit of missing a critical pentalty.
 

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I watched a video on this on youtube recently. Suggestion was, if tied at full time, each manager takes off 2 players, so you go 9 vs 9. If still tied after 10 minutes, you go 7 v 7. If tied after another 10 minutes you go 5 v 5. First goal wins. The benefit of this to me is a. It's makes the extra time very exciting and b. it takes away the burden on players on being the culprit of missing a critical pentalty.
Take the goalkeepers off first. That should sort things out soon enough.
 

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Shoot out before KO. Winner gets 0.5 of a goal.
 

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Nothing worse than having to do another half an hour.

I still think if the scores are level at 90 minutes, release the lion.
 

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Don't let Infantino hear you saying all this - he'd just scrap it in order to allow another half hour of Shakira, Madonna and Justin How-in-the-name-of-God-is-he-a-Star Bieber, and only then allow a penalty shoot-out to decide the winner.
 

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I played in a tournament years ago where drawn matches were decided by the most corner kicks.
Could that work? Might make for more attacking play?
At least it is something achieved in normal time.
 

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I played in a tournament years ago where drawn matches were decided by the most corner kicks.
Could that work? Might make for more attacking play?
Except a team getting a corner with a few minutes left may be tempted just to take it short and bump it off a defender, to get another corner, then rinse and repeat?
 

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I think one of the arguments against golden goal was that it put too much pressure on match officials in the event of a tight or controversial decision. VAR significantly reduces that risk (in theory at least), but I still can't see it being resurrected.

I'd have been happy to watch 15 minutes less of Argentina last night though.
Me too mate me too. Dirty sh*tty team.
 

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What we really need to do, is get as much american influence in football as possible.
 

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I watched a video on this on youtube recently. Suggestion was, if tied at full time, each manager takes off 2 players, so you go 9 vs 9. If still tied after 10 minutes, you go 7 v 7. If tied after another 10 minutes you go 5 v 5. First goal wins. The benefit of this to me is a. It's makes the extra time very exciting and b. it takes away the burden on players on being the culprit of missing a critical pentalty.
It might not be very exciting. I suspect it would lead to a "cat and mouse" scenario where both sides focused on keeping their defence tight and committing ever fewer to attack.

Of course you could take it to it's logical conclusion if 3v,3 or even 1v1. But that's reducing it to farce.
 

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In ET withdraw a player every three minutes starting with the goalkeepers! The managers pull a numbered ball out of a velvet bag indicating the opposition player to be withdrawn. Simples!
 

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I think one of the arguments against golden goal was that it put too much pressure on match officials in the event of a tight or controversial decision. VAR significantly reduces that risk (in theory at least), but I still can't see it being resurrected.

I'd have been happy to watch 15 minutes less of Argentina last night though.
I also think that because there was so much at stake, with teams effectively either progressing or being eliminated based on a single moment, it often had the opposite effect to what was intended. Rather than encouraging attacking football, it incentivised teams to sit back, play cautiously, and hold out for penalties, which ultimately undermined the concept itself.
 

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I also think that because there was so much at stake, with teams effectively either progressing or being eliminated based on a single moment, it often had the opposite effect to what was intended. Rather than encouraging attacking football, it incentivised teams to sit back, play cautiously, and hold out for penalties, which ultimately undermined the concept itself.
Yes this was the case made at Euro 96 where five games went to extra time and generated one golden goal in total. England v Germany was a bit of an exception to the rule because both teams did attack in that period.
 

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In ET withdraw a player every three minutes starting with the goalkeepers! The managers pull a numbered ball out of a velvet bag indicating the opposition player to be withdrawn. Simples!
This seems like an idea Donald Trump would suggest !
 

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Managers should play rock, paper, scissors
 

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This seems like an idea Donald Trump would suggest !
Yeah I'm a bit surprised a few people have suggested this, though this was usually in the late 90s articles with a variety bag of alternatives to penalties.

I'm not sure how getting tired players to have to run even further on a full size pitch will generate more goals, won't the game get even slower and more cautious.

I don't give FIFA a lot of credit, but not trialling this is probably a good thing.
 

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No offside rule in extra time?
 

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It's fine there isn't a better option so leave it alone.It's football not rugby,we don't need the constant tinkering.
 

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Heres an idea.............................................. Leave it as it is!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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