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[JBN]

Can't knock the club for communication, news of Fitz and Willock hit the OS very quickly.

Any more feedback?

 

[Banana]

Here are my notes:

Leroy Rosenior:

• No offers received for Sodje . He had a minor op during the summer which no-one knew about due to the old managment team leaving
• Owusu doing gentle straight-line jogging. Needs a dramatic improvement to play before mid-August
• LR doesn't know who will be playing in goal for the first game whilst Nelson is suspended
• Framps and O'Connor have both been offered new contracts
• LR impressed with Charlie Ide
• LR is helping Willock and Fitzgerald find new clubs
• Tuesday 18th July - meet the manager at Griffin Park.

 

[Brentford St George]

Here are my notes:

Leroy Rosenior:

• No offers received for Sodje . He had a minor op during the summer which no-one knew about due to the old managment team leaving
• Owusu doing gentle straight-line jogging. Needs a dramatic improvement to play before mid-August
• LR doesn't know who will be playing in goal for the first game whilst Nelson is suspended
• Framps and O'Connor have both been offered new contracts
• LR impressed with Charlie Ide
• LR is helping Willock and Fitzgerald find new clubs
• Tuesday 18th July - meet the manager at Griffin Park.

He is also impressed with the attitude shown by Paul Brooker and has taken him off the transfer list.

 

[Banana]

Directors:

Griffin Park Improvements

• Football Foundation are "getting impatient" with the club. We have 200k ringfenced from advanced sponsorship deals but need another 300k. Need to find by beginning of October or it's to the money. BB said there was a "significant chance" of losing the money
• Lionel Road: No progress. No meeting with new elected members of council. Chancerygate won't talk to club until they own the land. Nothing new to report. Had developers in and "no-one has made the sums add up". If there was any good news to report I didn't hear it.
• Commercial: Shirt deal vastly improved. Came through a contact of PO (the mystery investor's representative on the board). 88k comes from advertising at the ground - now 81% committed (mainly through suppliers of John Herting) and 85% committed on contra-deals for things like training facilites, vehicle leasing etc. Sounded much better news on the commercial font.
• Managing Director - expect an appointment in August
• Ticketing. Will be available for 1st game of season. Testers required and more news from Jon Gosling on that soon.

 

[Brentford St George]

Can't knock the club for communication, news of Fitz and Willock hit the OS very quickly.

Any more feedback?

Eddie Rogers did'nt show due to a back injury :suspect:

 

[Banana]

Transfers

• MA compensation coming in 2 tranches. Half now and half in October. This pleased one troublemaker at the back who asked quite reasonably why we are helping MK Dons with cash flow to which Dyke said that it "didn't make much difference" and "that's how things happen in football". Personally if it doesn't make much difference then they should have given us the money.
• Charlton had a 30% sell-on on Turner which they have traded for a 20% sell on and half of our sell-on percentage from Hull. Thus we get 15% of any future sell-on from Hull and so do Charlton. We got just under £300k (net of everything) from selling him to Hull
• Tabb deal was 100k + 10% sell-on

 

[brighton bee]

Transfers

• Charlton had a 30% sell-on on Turner which they have traded for a 20% sell on and half of our sell-on percentage from Hull. Thus we get 15% of any future sell-on from Hull and so do Charlton. We got just under £300k (net of everything) from selling him to Hull
  

good news ay? so much for 66%

 

[Banana]

Questions:

Budget:

• I asked why we couldn't put in £100m in the transfer budget and therefore we wouldn't have to pay that **** Noades any money. No-one seemed to have an answer to that. Noades doesn't have to agree the budget - he is entitled to see it though. BB said at one stage that "the budget has to balance" then withdrew it I think. So no answer to that one.
• David Merritt congratulated the Board on setting a break-even budget. Greg Dyke replied that setting a budget was easy - it was making it happen that's the difficult bit
• GD said that we will only break-even season-on-season after we move to a new stadium. He did say that it was possible to break-even over the cycle (a 5 year one if I remember correctly) but that meant not spending income from cup runs and transfers in the seasons that they happen to counteract the seasons where they don't happen
• The standby facility of £500k doesn't expire with the end of the whitewash period. When asked whether it was there forever Dyke replied that it was available "for a very long period of time"

 

[bees66]

Transfers

Tabb deal was 100k + 10% sell-on

****ing b***ocks

 

[Banana]

Noades:

• Q. Has Noades asked for his money back? A. There is a dialogue going on
• Q. Did Noades ask to come to the Swansea play-off came and if so why did he cancel? A. I don't know
• Q. Rogers said at the last Fans' Forum that Noades was "relaxed" about the 250k loan repayment date. Is that still the case? A. silence

 

[-superbees2k3-]

Have to say that clears a hell of a lot up for me. Great news about the Turner transfer and i didnt realise we would get a sell on fee for Tabby either!

 

[Les Beeavinu]

Leroy Rosenior is a very eloquent, confident person who was at ease with fans prior to speaking and in his address. His philosophy is sound (he got a round of applause for saying the best way to defend a lead is to play in the other sides half). Whether, to use MA phraseology, he "walks the walk" remians to be seen, but he certainly "talks the talk".

He doesn't want to be Barcelona manager though. England will do him fine.

 

[Brentford St George]

Noades:

• Q. Has Noades asked for his money back? A. There is a dialogue going on
• Q. Did Noades ask to come to the Swansea play-off came and if so why did he cancel? A. I don't know
• Q. Rogers said at the last Fans' Forum that Noades was "relaxed" about the 250k loan repayment date. Is that still the case? A. silence

I was disappointed with the response from Dyke regarding the Swansea question,implying that we should'nt imtimidate Noades.I understand that a person in his position has to remain professional but does he fully understand the extent that w anker has shafted us.

 

[bees66]

Have to say that clears a hell of a lot up for me. Great news about the Turner transfer and i didnt realise we would get a sell on fee for Tabby either!

****ing Tabb should have gone for a lot more than that FFS, b***ocks to 10% aswell it's ****ing sh*t

 

[Les Beeavinu]

Ian Jones sounds like he knows what he's doing and I would imagine that he has the balls to make unpopular decisions if they make sound commerical sense.

 

[Banana]

Misc:

Some pointed questions to Ian Jones from those in the know (John Anderson and Bruce Powell) about plans for Stripes match-day use next season with the inference being that it won't be open to all and instead used for hospitality.

The Princess Royal is next on the list of issues to address.

There was the usual strange question from Clive Lowry about the local press and others misleading fans about the level of debt and that he was grateful for the club releasing the budget information so that fans now know the true situation.

Somebody had an excellent letter from Micheal Dobson about Martin Allen which he read some portions from

That's about it from my rough notes.

 

[Brentford St George]

If that's the shape of things with the catering next season then i think Weighwatchers will be getting a fee Bees signing up.They served loads and loads of food all free as a sample to what they will be on offer next season.Burgers,pizza,noodles,pies and even curry.

They announced they will be selling curry in the Brook Road

 

[Les Beeavinu]

Just to re-iterate, Paul Brooker is not going anyway and is seen as a key part of the team next year. He says his confidence is "shot to pieces" but he expects a good response this season.

Oli is coming on well.

 

[Banana]

I was disappointed with the response from Dyke regarding the Swansea question,implying that we should'nt imtimidate Noades.I understand that a person in his position has to remain professional but does he fully understand the extent that w anker has shafted us.

Indeed, to go on about intimidating Noades with a banner and some balloons when he was intimidating fans with late night phone calls and the threat of law suits takes the biscuit. Why hasn't Dyke been comprehensively briefed on Noades????

 

[bees66]

If that's the shape of things with the catering next season then i think Weighwatchers will be getting a fee Bees signing up.They served loads and loads of food all free as a sample to what they will be on offer next season.Burgers,pizza,noodles,pies and even curry.

They announced they will be selling curry in the Brook Road

Nice

 

[Mads Bee]

If that's the shape of things with the catering next season then i think Weighwatchers will be getting a fee Bees signing up.They served loads and loads of food all free as a sample to what they will be on offer next season.Burgers,pizza,noodles,pies and even curry.

They announced they will be selling curry in the Brook Road

The all important matter of the food....... so was it good -- were you suitably impressed ??? Are we to have Vindaloo or a nice mild Korma ??

 

[Les Beeavinu]

Somebody had an excellent letter from Micheal Dobson about Martin Allen which he read some portions from

That's an undertstatement. It sounds dynamite. Michael Dobson doesn't like Martin Allen. lol

 

[Brentford St George]

Indeed, to go on about intimidating Noades with a banner and some balloons when he was intimidating fans with late night phone calls and the threat of law suits takes the biscuit. Why hasn't Dyke been comprehensively briefed on Noades????

 

[bees66]

Indeed, to go on about intimidating Noades with a banner and some balloons when he was intimidating fans with late night phone calls and the threat of law suits takes the biscuit. Why hasn't Dyke been comprehensively briefed on Noades????

Eddie's his love child remember

 

[Banana]

Did Leroy mention his GPG poll? I wasn't paying attention at the time.... but I'm sure I heard him mention 35%

 

[Les Beeavinu]

The all important matter of the food....... so was it good -- were you suitably impressed ??? Are we to have Vindaloo or a nice mild Korma ??

The food was very good. Let's hope the stuff they sell in the ground is equal quality but there were some mixed messages (I thought) about the ability to sell it with the facilities we have.

 

[havelockbee]

Why? He was on £500 a week or something ridiculous. Had he been given the contract he deserved then of course we'd have got more, but he wasn't. So i don't think under the circumstances we could expect much morefor Tabb, despite us all knowing his real value.

 

[Brentford St George]

Did Leroy mention his GPG poll? I wasn't paying attention at the time.... but I'm sure I heard him mention 35%

Yes, he stated that when he joined that 38% of bees did'nt want him,he replied that's good what about the other 62%.He came accross very well in my opinion and wants to get the fans enjoying decent football on the deck.

 

[Les Beeavinu]

I got the feeling that the Princess Royal is a disaster and they're not too sure about how to approach it. Again, my impression.

 

[bees66]

I got the feeling that the Princess Royal is a disaster and they're not too sure about how to approach it. Again, my impression.

Get Roy King in to sort that out eh?

 

[Brentford St George]

I got the feeling that the Princess Royal is a disaster and they're not too sure about how to approach it. Again, my impression.

I felt the same and feel something will have to give.They did seem a little coy though on certian things and this was one of them,perhaps something is going on

 

[Les Beeavinu]

I've never been to one of these events so I'd like to know how this compares. It struck me that the board were being quite open whilst retaining commercial sensitivities. Did anyone think that they were being evasive?

Also, it was very much Greg Dyke and the board. I suspect he's done this kind of thing before.

 

[maddogging]

Just to re-iterate, Paul Brooker is not going anyway and is seen as a key part of the team next year. He says his confidence is "shot to pieces" but he expects a good response this season.

Oli is coming on well.

two pieces of good news in my opinion.

 

[bees66]

Did Leroy say anything about loans or missing out on a few players?

 

[The H]

yes, he missed out on a couple of players.

 

[Paul USA]

Can somebody put up what the Michael Dobson letter was primarily about

 

[Edmundo]

Did Leroy mention his GPG poll? I wasn't paying attention at the time.... but I'm sure I heard him mention 35%

He referred to the 38% mentioned when we interviewed him. I think he intimated that we will probably be signing someone tomorrow.

The letter from Dobbo sounded electric. Should be fun when Walsall play the Franchise!!

I thought the board were refreshingly open and honest, though cagey on a few things related to commercial confidence and any mention of Ron Noades.

 

[The H]

i have a feeling that Stripes won't be for the great unwashed next season either.

 

[maddogging]

i have a feeling that Stripes won't be for the great unwashed next season either.

thank christ, cos some of our fans proper hum.

 

[Les Beeavinu]

Can somebody put up what the Michael Dobson letter was primarily about

Sharpened studs, stare him in the face man to man. That kind of thing.

 

[Brentford St George]

Can somebody put up what the Michael Dobson letter was primarily about

A bees fan who's son idolised him wrote to Dobbo wishing him well at wallsall.He got a letter back from Dobbo and he slated Martin Allen.He felt he got a really raw deal from Allen and said when they play MK Dons on 28th October he has a real point to prove.So along with Tabby,now Dobbo who could'nt work with him.

 

[Edmundo]

Can somebody put up what the Michael Dobson letter was primarily about

A guy had written to Dobbo, as he had been his 9 year old son's favourite player and he thought the way Dobbo left without a chance to say goodbye was a bit shoddy. He had a reply from Dobbo that had apparently revealed that Dobbo and Martin Allen didn't get on. And that when MK came to Walsall, Dobbo was going to sharpen his studs ready to get stuck in and demonstrate to Allen just what he really thinks of him. And that he wishes BFC and the fans every success.

 

[The H]

wasn't Dobbo on the 'list' along with Stewart Talbot, Stephen Hunt and A.N. Other.

 

[Les Beeavinu]

He referred to the 38% mentioned when we interviewed him. I think he intimated that we will probably be signing someone tomorrow.

Anyone want to take a punt on whether that'll be one of our triallists?

 

[The H]

:suspect:

 

[Les Beeavinu]

i have a feeling that Stripes won't be for the great unwashed next season either.

:yes: Some kind of fancy eaterie maybe :shrug:

 

[Banana]

And another thing

• We interviewed 4 people for the then vacant Manager's position

 

[The H]

yum.... Meat & Potato pie for tomorrow's dinner...... us poor people have to get what they can

 

[Brentford St George]

Rosenior to me seem's very different to Allen and will be getting players motivated in a different way or as he says it "the chance to express themselves".He seem's focused,ambitous and stressed the importance of playing with fliar when mentioning Joe Kaffour stating he will excite supporters and get us off our seats.

Time will tell, but i though he came accross very well tonight

 

[Banana]

Also there were about 120 supporters there - which was a good attendance compared to last time I believe.