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So is anyone going to the Fans Forum tonight?

Good line up on the panel, but it's all a bit short notice isn't it?

Maybe should have waited until the season has started and the summer holidays are over? :fishing:
 

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I am planning to pop along.
 

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Can we post questions on here and have them put to the panel:confused:
 

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Beeophile said:
Can we post questions on here and have them put to the panel:confused:
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you can email them to BIAS in advance I think. Theres a link normally in the top right hand corner of the GPG homepage
 

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May pop by!

Ha I remember the last one with Butcher & Dyke and Dyke left 15minutes in to attend his daughters birthday!
 

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Onions.
Signings.
Singing.
Dug Outs.

All need to talked about tonight.
 

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The Joker said:
Fans Forum tonight

Good line up on the panel, but it's all a bit short notice isn't it?
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In defence. BIAS have been seeking a Fans Forum for 2 years. The club's ruling junta gave us two possible dates in the summer and we finally agreed on a date about a month ago.
This was advertised on our site, BFC site, GPG, twitter + facebook.
If you put a question on here that is worth asking I will ask it.
 

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where is it and is andy scott going?
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Can we ask the club why the Griffin is so bloody expensive and can any of the players afford to drink there.
 

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The Joker said:
So is anyone going to the Fans Forum tonight?

Good line up on the panel, but it's all a bit short notice isn't it?

Maybe should have waited until the season has started and the summer holidays are over? :fishing:
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20 days notice isn't enough for you, then?
 

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Nurse Betty said:
20 days notice isn't enough for you, then?
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I must have missed the initial comms then...

I saw it mentioned on the GPG less than a week ago, in the BIAS email communication a few days ago and on the club's website on Monday - but nothing before that. :shrug:
 

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Can someone please raise something about the pricing for the Cheltenham game. If they would not agree to a reduction then fair enough but otherwise I think charging full price is a joke. I understand the economic reasons but since cup games are not budgeted for it would have been a nice thank you to the few thousand that will turn up to let us in half price. I've always paid full wack for these sort of games before but can longer afford to. £22 for Cheltenham in Round One of the League Cup is a slap in the face and takes for granted those who will go.

Thanks!
 

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Guildford Bee said:
Can someone please raise something about the pricing for the Cheltenham game. If they would not agree to a reduction then fair enough but otherwise I think charging full price is a joke. I understand the economic reasons but since cup games are not budgeted for it would have been a nice thank you to the few thousand that will turn up to let us in half price. I've always paid full wack for these sort of games before but can longer afford to. £22 for Cheltenham in Round One of the League Cup is a slap in the face and takes for granted those who will go.

Thanks!
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Guildford Bee said:
Can someone please raise something about the pricing for the Cheltenham game. If they would not agree to a reduction then fair enough but otherwise I think charging full price is a joke. I understand the economic reasons but since cup games are not budgeted for it would have been a nice thank you to the few thousand that will turn up to let us in half price. I've always paid full wack for these sort of games before but can longer afford to. £22 for Cheltenham in Round One of the League Cup is a slap in the face and takes for granted those who will go.

Thanks!
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two things. 1. the visiting club has to agree the prices, so if they so no, then it's a no. 2. the clubs budget includes 1st round knockouts in all competitions. so some money is budgeted for from these games. Prize monies and gate monies.

they will be your answers. :sorted:

i am going to the Forum though to ask ISB's question(s), "Andy Scott, do you have a Fulham FC tattoo and if so where?" And, "AS when did you start going to the Cottage?"
 

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Can you please improve the food at GP it is horrible and an embarrassment?
Why are the Cheltenham prices so high?
Why is there no invention in the prices? e.g. last year safe from relegation but still normal prices against Huddersfield and Hartlepool.
 

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Chopper said:
Can you please improve the food at GP it is horrible and an embarrassment?
Why are the Cheltenham prices so high?
Why is there no invention in the prices? e.g. last year safe from relegation but still normal prices against Huddersfield and Hartlepool.
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I've not eaten 'food' at GP for years. It doesn't look too good!

Cheltenham prices, see above.

think of the 'poor' ST holders......................they (we/I !!) forked out money for those games last May 2009! What do we get in return?
 

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wanderer paul said:
two things. 1. the visiting club has to agree the prices, so if they so no, then it's a no.
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I've already made reference to that and if that's the case then fair enough but it would be nice to hear it from the dog's mouth.
 

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Maybe controversial (with some, anyway) but when are the club going to make a real effort to improve general communication with supporters. I don't mean telling people what the club want them to know, I mean telling them what needs to be told - good or not so good.
 

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I might be missing something here but is Andy Scott going to the Fans Forum rather than to Hendon . . . . . .??
 

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Easter 1959 said:
I might be missing something here but is Andy Scott going to the Fans Forum rather than to Hendon . . . . . .??
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It is going to be juniors and fringe players and andy has a good backroom set
up to oversee the match.
So yes you are. :D
 

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1.Why is one dugout twice the size of the other one,it looks daft.
2.When will the Brook Road scoreboard be fixed.
 

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wanderer paul said:
two things. 1. the visiting club has to agree the prices, so if they so no, then it's a no. 2. the clubs budget includes 1st round knockouts in all competitions. so some money is budgeted for from these games. Prize monies and gate monies.

they will be your answers. :sorted:

i am going to the Forum though to ask ISB's question(s), "Andy Scott, do you have a Fulham FC tattoo and if so where?" And, "AS when did you start going to the Cottage?"
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POINT 1. if that is the case, fair play to notts county, they are playing Plymouth away. plymouth have cut ST prices for the game from £24 to £10
 

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There are only 30 odd in attendance. Pricing has been mentioned. Details probably later from BIAS
 

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fencer/bee said:
POINT 1. if that is the case, fair play to notts county, they are playing Plymouth away. plymouth have cut ST prices for the game from £24 to £10
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Good on them then. If Brentford could afford it then they'd do it I'm sure, it's MB who has to c over the costs in the end.
 

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I went to the fans forum so quick report...

Poor turnout really - maybe 40 or so fans there. Andrew Mills and Andy Scott answered most of the questions with Alan Bird fielding a couple and Greg Dyke doing the chairing. Here's a few random points that I remember...not in any particular order
  • Overall I thought AM was impressive except on one of the first questions which queried Cheltenham ticket prices. Maybe unfair, but I got the distinct impression it hadn't been given much thought. AM said he asked the ticket office what prices they would suggest and that is what he went for. He did not say that it was anything to do with what Cheltenham wanted. When pressed a bit more on ticket prices, AM did say that he would prefer to improve the product to justify the prices rather than reduce prices
  • Dug outs were moved to other side to make it easier for AS to get instructions to the players. AS implied that it was his call to make the away one smaller to make it less welcoming for the away team. He quoted Charlton where the away dugout is not on the halfway line and this amkes it harder for away teams
  • AS target is to improve on last season's finish. Would be very happy to get in play offs. Our budget is not in the top 6 in the league
  • AS expects the 3 relegated sides to be strong. He also mentioned Notts County
  • AS/AM talked about our new scouting network. It all sounded impressive...AS said that each team in Champ, League 1 and League 2 will be scouted at least twice and the best 3 players in each team identified. They then use that information to compile a list of the best possible players in each position in case we need to go and find a player so that we are not starting with a blank slate.
  • AS said Charlie Mac and Nicky Forster may not necessarily be alternative selections and may well play together. They have struck up a good relationship off the pitch and roomed together in Portugal.
  • AS implied we may bring in another keeper and let Moore go out on loan
  • AB said we now make money on our matchday program
  • AM talked about the new youth Academy. It sounded promising but work has to be done to achieve the Academy status
  • AM/AB described the Hull/Michael Turner situation. We may have been stitched up but it is impossible to prove
  • AS did not deny we are a long ball team, but said the results justify the style
  • AS said Chesney will not be returning on loan as he is likely to be in first team squad at Arsenal
  • GD said that other alternative sites to Lionel Road were not necessarily being considered but that other 'options' were. It was a bit cryptic, but he added that there is a meeting on this tomorrow to discuss these 'options'

    Finally, I was charged £3.50 for a lager shandy :eek: I did query it but was told that that was the correct price...

    I'm sure i've forgotten loads but that's a few headlines. Shame there wasn't a few more fans there considering there were 6 people on the panel.
 

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No news on potential signings ?
 

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maddogging said:
No news on potential signings ?
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No specific names, but AS still trying to get 1 or 2 more in...sounded to me like a goalkeeper would definitely be one of them...so that Lee + new keeper will be 2 first team squad keepers with Moore out on loan..
 

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paulmaddy said:
No specific names, but AS still trying to get 1 or 2 more in...sounded to me like a goalkeeper would definitely be one of them...so that Lee + new keeper will be 2 first team squad keepers with Moore out on loan..
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Why is Moore getting picked ahead of Lee in pre season then:confused:
 

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The numbers he wants seem to be diminishing. 9 days to go, starting to worry whether he knows what his best x1 will be. Fingers crossed for some news tomorrow before Fridays game
 

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Does AS have a fulham tattoo?
 

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paulmaddy said:
I went to the fans forum so quick report...

Poor turnout really - maybe 40 or so fans there. Andrew Mills and Andy Scott answered most of the questions with Alan Bird fielding a couple and Greg Dyke doing the chairing. Here's a few random points that I remember...not in any particular order
  • Overall I thought AM was impressive except on one of the first questions which queried Cheltenham ticket prices. Maybe unfair, but I got the distinct impression it hadn't been given much thought. AM said he asked the ticket office what prices they would suggest and that is what he went for. He did not say that it was anything to do with what Cheltenham wanted. When pressed a bit more on ticket prices, AM did say that he would prefer to improve the product to justify the prices rather than reduce prices
  • Dug outs were moved to other side to make it easier for AS to get instructions to the players. AS implied that it was his call to make the away one smaller to make it less welcoming for the away team. He quoted Charlton where the away dugout is not on the halfway line and this amkes it harder for away teams
  • AS target is to improve on last season's finish. Would be very happy to get in play offs. Our budget is not in the top 6 in the league
  • AS expects the 3 relegated sides to be strong. He also mentioned Notts County
  • AS/AM talked about our new scouting network. It all sounded impressive...AS said that each team in Champ, League 1 and League 2 will be scouted at least twice and the best 3 players in each team identified. They then use that information to compile a list of the best possible players in each position in case we need to go and find a player so that we are not starting with a blank slate.
  • AS said Charlie Mac and Nicky Forster may not necessarily be alternative selections and may well play together. They have struck up a good relationship off the pitch and roomed together in Portugal.
  • AS implied we may bring in another keeper and let Moore go out on loan
  • AB said we now make money on our matchday program
  • AM talked about the new youth Academy. It sounded promising but work has to be done to achieve the Academy status
  • AM/AB described the Hull/Michael Turner situation. We may have been stitched up but it is impossible to prove
  • AS did not deny we are a long ball team, but said the results justify the style
  • AS said Chesney will not be returning on loan as he is likely to be in first team squad at Arsenal
  • GD said that other alternative sites to Lionel Road were not necessarily being considered but that other 'options' were. It was a bit cryptic, but he added that there is a meeting on this tomorrow to discuss these 'options'

    Finally, I was charged £3.50 for a lager shandy :eek: I did query it but was told that that was the correct price...

    I'm sure i've forgotten loads but that's a few headlines. Shame there wasn't a few more fans there considering there were 6 people on the panel.
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condorman said:
Cant be arsed to type it in again, similar to above but my summary tonight is here

http://www.brentford.vitalfootball.co.uk/article.asp?a=206545
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.........................thank you both for your synopses, much appreciated..............
 

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I would love near a matchday, the information provided on the official website to be focused on ourselves aswell as revealing everything about our opponents.
 

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So now we know why we ain't getting an attacking matilda, its the "tippy tap football" phobia, seems the long ball will bypass the matildas when attacking and thier only use will be for defense. Now we know we are only looking for an attacker and a goalkeeper.
Problem is if Chesney was worth 15 points thats only 1 point of relegation so we are walking the tightrope this season, wonder how many points Ryan was worth.
 

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I love the answer to the Cheltenham ticket prices.

" Improve the product, to justify the prices,rather than reduce prices"

Round 2 here we come,, oohhhhh hang on we have never beat them before:sad:
 

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Just to clarify, AS did not state 15 points himself, that figure was suggested by a supporter asking a question. AS did agree that Chesney had made a significant impact
 

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Ok some additional points and clarifications from me. This is paraphrased as I was only taking rough notes.


  • Food
    AM - said we have one year left on the catering contract and their may be scope to improve towards the end of the contract but it will likely be a season away.


  • Academy
    PW - Clarified the difference between an Academy and Centre of Excellence. Academy much better standard, will be against better teams, attract better players and improve the ones we have.

    GD - Said the best thing about it is that MB is funding it. It was clarified that this was separate to the £1m+ annual investment


  • Scouting
    AS - I think he said all 71 teams will be watch twice in the next 3 months. So good fast progress on the scouting network. Also he has access to MB's magical database as well.


  • Signings
    All 3 of AM, AS and TB have to agree on a signing, if one has a bad feeling then they won't sign. AS said that very few players have come to the training ground and and then changed their mind signing. But did admit that he has pulled out when he met a player face to face.


  • Cups
    AS would like to build a squad capable of progressing in the cups, admitted he has been forced to name a weak team in the past but hopes to avoid that in the future (wasn't sure if he meant starting with Cheltenham or not)


  • Championship sustainability
    Asked whether the club could sustain Championship football. AB, DM, AM all spoke about it, saying it would be difficult but possible. AM said the average Championship debt is £18m. GD talked about the parachute payments and how that creates an elite ten top in the Championship/

That's about all I've got that hasn't been covered.

Just to sum up, I think that Andrew Mills started the evening badly with his answer on the Cheltenham ticket pricing. He does look like he one who will learn from his mistakes (eg lack of consultation on dugouts) and is willing to make an effort to put things right.

Also to the bloke who asked what offer it would take AS to leave Brentford. :nono:

Oh and a good chuckle when AS said Gillingham didn't win a game away from home all season. They got relegated, he got sacked! :sorted:
 

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Greg looked a bit disappointed at the poor turnout, AM fielded most of the questions and AS albeit answered his questions he didn't really give anything away, although he did say he did say he only wants to sign Championship level players ?, he also remarked that there are many other clubs in league one with much bigger budgets than Brentford.

One question was " if we were to get into the Championship do you think we could sustain a team at this level with our crowds"......None of the panel looked confident, AM said it would be difficult as the average Championship club is 18m in debt, and the teams coming down for the premier league receive a parachute payment of 48m !

Somebody asked how do the club increase attendances, AM said when he looks around at the crowd on matchdays there appears to be lots of " mature" supporter, it raised a chuckle but he didn't answer the question.

AM mentioned that Chesterfield ( lge 2) have anew stadium and anticipatre they will make 1m from non football activities, he said he has looked at non football revenue options and cannot see how we can make anything close to this.

I think we'll do OK this season but unlikely we'll reach the play-offs and the prospect of Championship football is too scary.

The fact is we need a new stadium and there is nothing on the horizon.
 
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