General Cricket Thread (3 Viewers)

[Judio1999]

Here are the best and worst cases for all teams to finish on
MIN : Lose all remaining Tests
MAX: Win all remaining Tests

	Min	Max
India	45%​	73%​
Aussie	39%​	76%​
Sri Lanka	38%​	69%​
NZ	38%​	62%​
SA	28%​	69%​
England	36%​	49%​

 

[Indian Bee]

In a way glad India lost. They need to stop producing wickets that they are incapable of playing in. Lost a test against Australia last year, England this year and now soundly beaten by a decent NZ side. Why would a team produce these wickets when they have the best fast bowler in the world in Bumrah who was largely ineffective this test.

Fatboy and Kohli need to step up - both have been utterly crap in the Bangladesh and NZ tests and need to justify their place.

The funny thing is India's strength are more suited to beating Australia away than winning on spinning wickets at home.

 

[SpiderBee]

Rubbish by India. Focus has all been on the Australia tour.

Well played NZ ?? showed up India on a pitch that was suppose to produce a win for them.

Good for test match cricket this with and winning and Pakistan winning.

Agreed

 

[Super_horns]

Jacob Bethell called up for the NZ tour.

Looks like Smith will be missing with Cox replacing him .

New Zealand vs England: Jacob Bethell earns first Test call-up as Jamie Smith to miss series

 

[Les Beeavinu]

Odd selection when there are some young county batsman with a weight of runs behind them.

 

[Beecareful]

Very "Alice in Wonderland".

Crazy that several retained (contracted) England players cannot get a sniff.

Haines of Sussex is a very decent opening batsman (sic)in his mid 20s but cannot get a go.

 

[Gazza Bee]

Looks like we are trying to shoehorn white ball players into our test team which is all well and good for scoring rates but test matches are played over 5 days (weather permitting..) - seems a strange pick given he averages 25 in first class cricket

 

[Super_horns]

Just highlights of International cricket on FTA - no live games.

No more international cricket live on free-to-air TV as ECB fails to agree deal

 

[Cham]

3rd Test against NZ. .India 84-4 after bowling NZ out for 253

 

[longtimeagobee]

Just highlights of International cricket on FTA - no live games.

No more international cricket live on free-to-air TV as ECB fails to agree deal

Thank goodness the BBC still have 15 games in the Hundred ?

 

[Indian Bee]

3rd Test against NZ. .India 84-4 after bowling NZ out for 253

Brainless cricket there by India in the last two overs. First time I will admit that Kohli’s form/ commitment is a worry. If he doesn’t have a good BGT tour then questions marks will need to be asked about his and Rohit’s place in the team, especially if India don’t make the WTC final.

 

[ppobee]

Thank goodness the BBC still have 15 games in the Hundred ?

Even though the viewing figures have dropped significantly. Must be cheap compared to the T20 internationals.

 

[Indian Bee]

NZ over 100 lead with 6 wickets down. They have been wonderful in this series. Series gone but India realistically have to win this test to have any chance of reaching the WTC finals. SA I think have got one place with 4 home tests to go.

 

[Indian Bee]

Saw this on Twitter earlier today.

Test matches.

5 years ago
Smith 6973 at 64.6
Kohli 7066 at 54.8
Williamson 6163 at 51.6
Root 7043 at 47.9

Now
Smith 9685 at 57.0
Williamson 8881 at 54.5
Root 12754 at 51.0
Kohli 9039 at 48.1

Last 5 years
Williamson 2718 at 60.4
Root 5711 at 55.4
Smith 2712 at 47.3
Kohli 1973 at 33.4

The decline in Kohli runs/ average since Covid has been massive. What this doesn’t tell and goes back to my comment on the WI thread is that Root has played 63 tests matches v 41 for Smith and 36 for Kohli. Taking nothing away from Root but he has played very little white ball cricket since the 2019 WC Final and focused purely on red ball cricket. I guess he had no choice considering the amount of test match cricket England play. But a remarkable turnaround.

Kohli if he carried on the rate of centuries he scored between 2014-2019 he would have smashed Sachin record of 100 international 100’s by now. He still is the only batsmen to average 50 across all formats and the fastest ever player to score 27k international runs but needs to make a decision whether his last 2/3 years he focuses on family (life in London) v cricket.

 

[Indian Bee]

India 29-5 ? absolute rubbish ! Can’t remember them have a worst series at home ever.

 

[Les Beeavinu]

Game on at lunch. India recover to 92-6 thanks entirely to Rishabh Pant with 53 from 50 balls. 55 needed for India to win.

 

[TW3Bee]

That is a very poor review from New Zealand, a great one to get rid of Pant, but they may ncome back to haunt them.

30 runs for India to win, 3 wickets for New Zealand.

 

[TW3Bee]

That was a very poor shot from Ashwin, considering the situation.

India 8 down with 26 needed.

 

[TW3Bee]

Phillips 2 in 2.

121-9.

On a hat-trick to win the Test.

 

[TW3Bee]

Fantastic series win for New Zealand.

 

[Indian Bee]

Fair play to NZ. Probably their best ever series win. No one would have imagined them winning 3-0. Feel for Pant. The rest of the Indian batsmen were just rubbish.

 

[Gazza Bee]

India never been clean swept in a 3 test series at home so it ranks amongst the best series wins for anybody not just NZ IMHO I was looking forward to NZ v Eng series but quite worried now.

 

[Cham]

Arguably the greatest test series win of all time.

 

[Super_horns]

Very impressive.

Wonder who they play next...

 

[Jam Jar]

Wow wasnt expecting that thought India would save face. One of the great shocks in test cricket. @Indian Bee what do you think will happen to the seniors. Wonder if this is it for Kohli.

 

[TW3Bee]

Wow wasnt expecting that thought India would save face. One of the great shocks in test cricket. @Indian Bee what do you think will happen to the seniors. Wonder if this is it for Kohli.

Not just Kohli, there'll be a few others that should be worried too, maybe take the captaincy off of Rohit Sharma and give it to Pant, who was probably India's Man of the Series.

 

[Indian Bee]

Wow wasnt expecting that thought India would save face. One of the great shocks in test cricket. @Indian Bee what do you think will happen to the seniors. Wonder if this is it for Kohli.

Who knows. The annoying part with Kohli I have is that he got back into test form (was by far the best batsmen for the SA tour) but for personal reason and understandably) missed the test series against England. You can’t just go straight into red ball cricket as he did not playing this format for over 9 months. He needed some ranji trophy games behind him. He has a wonderful record in Australia and these pitches should suit him. Let’s see post that series.

I thought Rohit’s captaincy was poor throughout and the selection baffling. It all started in Bangalore, win toss bat first and bowled out for 46. The batting with some exceptions has been rubbish. Should have played an extra seamer in Bangalore. India should stop producing wickets that make average spinners world beaters. They are better than that.

Rohit should go but not sure he will. Jadeja I think will be our only spinner in Australia although I would like it to be Kuldeep. Ashwin rarely gets a game in Australia or England and not in the white ball teams so potentially could be it for him. Tough decisions over the next couple of weeks on the squad. India are still a very good team but not playing to their strengths.

 

[stedders]

Tickets on sale this week to members for tests at the Oval next Summer.
Normally I would expect around £90 for one day (block 6 or 7)
This time the same seats would be £130!

I guess it's the India Premium but this is quite a hike!

 

[TW3Bee]

Don't won't to speak too soon, and it is Pakistan we are talking about here, bvutr in their second ODI, at Adelaide, they have Australia 130-8.

 

[Jam Jar]

Always good to see the Aussies taken down even if it is in a meaningless ODI series.

 

[Bristolian Bee]

Always good to see the Aussies thrashed even if it is in a meaningless ODI series.

ftfy

 

[Indian Bee]

My view is clear on this. If India are not prepared to play in Pakistan then they should not be part of the Champions Trophy.

Champions Trophy 2025: 'Hybrid model' not acceptable to Pakistan Cricket Board

A 'hybrid model' for hosting the Champions Trophy will not be accepted by Pakistan, according to its Cricket Board chairman Mohsin Naqvi.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Beecareful]

spot-on.

 

[SpiderBee]

Pakistan won by 9 wkts

 

[TW3Bee]

Aussies resting their Test Match players for the third ODI, as they have a Test Match series with India coming up.
A great chance for Pakistan to win a one day series in Australia.

 

[super J]

My view is clear on this. If India are not prepared to play in Pakistan then they should not be part of the Champions Trophy.

Champions Trophy 2025: 'Hybrid model' not acceptable to Pakistan Cricket Board

A 'hybrid model' for hosting the Champions Trophy will not be accepted by Pakistan, according to its Cricket Board chairman Mohsin Naqvi.

www.bbc.co.uk

Time for the ICC to stand up to the BCCI and kick them out of the tournament.

 

[Jam Jar]

My view is clear on this. If India are not prepared to play in Pakistan then they should not be part of the Champions Trophy.

Champions Trophy 2025: 'Hybrid model' not acceptable to Pakistan Cricket Board

A 'hybrid model' for hosting the Champions Trophy will not be accepted by Pakistan, according to its Cricket Board chairman Mohsin Naqvi.

www.bbc.co.uk

Yes i also agree. The tournament should go on none of this hybrid nonsense. Im sure the Indian players want to go as do the board but its a government decision and whilst Modi is around i dont expect anything to change.

 

[Indian Bee]

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Time for the ICC to stand up to the BCCI and kick them out of the tournament.

Yes i also agree. The tournament should go on none of this hybrid nonsense. Im sure the Indian players want to go as do the board but its a government decision and whilst Modi is around i dont expect anything to change.

I agree. Bookmark this I am agreeing with @super J. If India are not prepared to play in Pakistan then they should not be included in the tournament. You can't have a tournament where one team is not prepared to play at the host venue.

 

[TW3Bee]

Quite amazing end to the T20 between New Zealand and Sri Lanka.

Chasing 109 to win SL were 101-7 going in to the last over, but managed to lose three wickets for two runs, and lose by 5 runs.

 

[aawharris]

Booked a nice hotel room for my wifes birthday last night, view from the balcony was decent

 

[Banana]

India are not travelling to Pakistan for the Champions Trophy
Pakistan will not allow games outside Pakistan
TV money won't work without either of them

Sigh.

Champions Trophy 2025: India will not travel to Pakistan, says PCB

India has informed the International Cricket Council it will not travel to the Champions Trophy, according to hosts Pakistan.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Untouchable]

A funny Brett Lee story.


View: https://x.com/crickshouts/status/1856354145353011322?s=46&t=SQP7mje7Pimu8X-ugPnQnQ

 

[Indian Bee]

India are not travelling to Pakistan for the Champions Trophy
Pakistan will not allow games outside Pakistan
TV money won't work without either of them

Sigh.

Champions Trophy 2025: India will not travel to Pakistan, says PCB

India has informed the International Cricket Council it will not travel to the Champions Trophy, according to hosts Pakistan.

www.bbc.co.uk

Going to be interesting how this plays out in the next couple of days.

I said my piece above and if ICC accommodate India’s preference they will look weak but a tournament without India, cricket will lose so much revenue.

 

[ppobee]

India are not travelling to Pakistan for the Champions Trophy
Pakistan will not allow games outside Pakistan
TV money won't work without either of them

Sigh.

Champions Trophy 2025: India will not travel to Pakistan, says PCB

India has informed the International Cricket Council it will not travel to the Champions Trophy, according to hosts Pakistan.

www.bbc.co.uk

I think the purpose of the Champions Trophy is/was to fund the ICC development programme. So if it doesn't happen - and it likely not to happen if India don't go, as the TV revenue disappears - it will be the emerging nations and possibly women's cricket that will suffer. Not sure the men will miss it, given it's a format they hardly play now. Not sure the ICC will miss it either.

 

[badgerbee]

Ticket secured for Day 2 (Friday) of Lords Test v India next year.
Enrich Upper (bit like away section at Newcastle.....bring crampons and an iron lung to get there, and Hubble Telescope for a decent view of play......):
£160!!!
?

 

[Indian Bee]

Just off on some travel but the Border-Gavaskar Trophy test series starts less than a week. Probably deserves its own thread as it’s a bigger series than the ashes #facts ?

India have to win 4-0 to guarantee a spot in the WTC final but highly unlikely. Pant and Kohli (his farewell Australia test tour) to star with the bat and be interesting to see how Jaiswal copes. First big test for him. Sadly, onus will be on Bumrah to take the wickets and Shami absent for at least the first two tests huge loss.

Prediction 2-2 and Aussies will cheat and by the end of the series no one will be wiser where the Champions Trophy will be held.

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[Judio1999]

The County Cricket Fixtures are normally out on a Thursday in late November

So will either be on Thurs Nov 21st or 28th ??

Has anyone heard any confirmation yet ??

 

[TW3Bee]

The County Cricket Fixtures are normally out on a Thursday in late November

So will either be on Thurs Nov 21st or 28th ??

Has anyone heard any confirmation yet ??

Showing my age now, but the County Cricket fixtures used to be out before the end of the previous season.

 

[Judio1999]

I do remember picking up a piece of paper with the fixtures on it at the Oval Test Match which was late in August...

Twitter seems to think Thursday 21st November for the fix

 

[Holysmit]

Ticket secured for Day 2 (Friday) of Lords Test v India next year.
Enrich Upper (bit like away section at Newcastle.....bring crampons and an iron lung to get there, and Hubble Telescope for a decent view of play......):
£160!!!
?

I'm not going to the oval again this summer due to the price. I can afford it and want to go. But if we just accept these prices it will just continue and it's an absolute rip off. If it rains and there's 25 overs of play you get nothing back.

Think most of my time Watching England in future will be abroad.