Get a grip.....

[bee1958]

Nothing fear from the other play-off sides. I have enjoyed this season, and now it goes on for a bit longer.

Agreed. Looking forward to the Swindon games (if I can get tickets) and maybe Wembley.

 

[GP200]

One simple question, if you were players of any of the remaining teams in the play-offs, what team would you feel you had the best chance of winning against? I know who I'd want to play.

..............Sheff Utd................

 

[wibs]

See you all at Wembley.........YOU REDS....

I think a lot of people have lost a lot of respect for you starting a thread with this title less than an hour after the final whistle.

You have totally failed to appreciate the misery and despair of Brentford fans.

If you had been at Griffin Park at the final whistle you would have seen faces of men women and children all with a haunted thousand yard stare.

'Get a grip' would not have been an appropriate thing to say.

I hope you are man enough to realise being hundred of miles away from the event you showed poor judgement so soon after the disastrous end to the match.

 

[LboroBee]

well, I love football. But in another way to me, it's only football.
By that I'm referring to other posts where people have had more serious things happen to them this season. Still feel void this morning though.
Yesterday happened, and the feeling will always be there in our memory banks, in years to come.

However:
There's 18 teams that finished below 6th place, whose fans would have dearly loved their team to have been in this seasons play-offs.
1 of 4 will go up, we can play better than the other 3 teams.
A lot of these Brentford players are early twenties, and remembering back to how I was at that age (ie not really mature in my own thoughts, ps i'm only 33 now), hard as it may be, I think it's really up to us as fans to be as positive as possible to help us win the play-offs...anyone with me?

 

[SCARFER]

See you all at Wembley.........YOU REDS....

I think a lot of people have lost a lot of respect for you starting a thread with this title less than an hour after the final whistle.

You have totally failed to appreciate the misery and despair of Brentford fans.

If you had been at Griffin Park at the final whistle you would have seen faces of men women and children all with a haunted thousand yard stare.

'Get a grip' would not have been an appropriate thing to say.

I hope you are man enough to realise being hundred of miles away from the event you showed poor judgement so soon after the disastrous end to the match.

Threads like this are fine after losing to Yeovil for example, not after yesterday

 

[hanworthbee]

if you weren't there you can't imagine what it felt like to witness that event..missing a penalty just doesn't seem like strong enough words to reinforce what happened......devastation for fans and club alike

 

[GP]

Didnt post yesterday. Was too gutted to even think about looging on when I got home. Watched a clip on SSN of pen & breakaway & turned TV off. Needed a sleep to try & get perspective.
Still felt sh*te this morning but made a cup of tea stuck TV on and flicked through the TV channels (still couldnt stomach watching SSN bang on about it).
Saw on EPG on ITV4 The Big Match Revisted. Switched on just as Steve Phillips cooly slotted a penalty past Steve Sherwood from February 1979.
I am not sure if I now feel worse or better ?

 

[Roy_loak]

The title of this thread has to be the most unbelieavable ever..get a grip?

i'm assuming it was posted by someone who wasn't at the game. i'm also assuming that he/she was only trying to help, and didn't intend to be insulting.

 

[Frenchbee]

i'm assuming it was posted by someone who wasn't at the game. i'm also assuming that he/she was only trying to help, and didn't intend to be insulting.

Good post Roy! Those who weren't at the game will never know just how it felt, but life does go on, even for Bees fans this morning.

 

[Roy_loak]

Didnt post yesterday. Was too gutted to even think about looging on when I got home. Watched a clip on SSN of pen & breakaway & turned TV off. Needed a sleep to try & get perspective.
Still felt sh*te this morning but made a cup of tea stuck TV on and flicked through the TV channels (still couldnt stomach watching SSN bang on about it).
Saw on EPG on ITV4 The Big Match Revisted. Switched on just as Steve Phillips cooly slotted a penalty past Steve Sherwood from February 1979.
I am not sure if I now feel worse or better ?

you saw stevie phillips score a penalty... i'm glad i didn't or i think my kids would have seen a grown man cry.
you know what i'd love to do.. get jackie graham to hold the ball and say: go on trotta, ****ing grab the ball off HIM if you fancy your chances.

 

[Gonads2]

I am truly sick and stunned as the next man but we must make sure our season didn't finish yesterday. Don't know how I can do it yet (am still looking at the clips on Youtube like a rubber necker throwing up at a multi car pile up) but I must, no, we must, work towards helping our lads haul their arses over the finishing line. Despite the odd **** up along the way, they have worked their bollox off this season and deserve a second chance. I can feel a bit of fight coming back just writing about it, COYR's and Come On Fellow GPG's, lets try to get something positive going. One thing we are good at as Bee's is bouncing back, we can do this!! It hurts but we must carry on.

 

[MikeL]

I have berated my son for his bad planning. His wife is expecting our first grandchild on Friday but no doubt it will pop out on Monday! Anyway, after a blow out Chinese meal last night to take my mind off the game, i have decided to be positive. Look at this way, the Club has the chance to make a lot of extra income and our job as fans is to help Uwe to lift the players. So, no more negativity on here please. Let's be positive and look forward to two and hopefully three more games to take us up.

Up the Bees.

 

[Roy_loak]

I have berated my son for his bad planning. His wife is expecting our first grandchild on Friday but no doubt it will pop out on Monday! Anyway, after a blow out Chinese meal last night to take my mind off the game, i have decided to be positive. Look at this way, the Club has the chance to make a lot of extra income and our job as fans is to help Uwe to lift the players. So, no more negativity on here please. Let's be positive and look forward to two and hopefully three more games to take us up.

Up the Bees.

sorry mate but i've got to get rid of some negativity somewhere! hate to say this but i lost some respect for rosler yesterday. to see his players bickering over a penalty yet again made me sick.

football aside, best wishes to your forthcoming new family member

 

[-superbees2k3-]

Sheff Utd, Yeovil, and Swindon is probably the weakest playoffs for quite a while. Belief will come flooding back if we can overcome Swindon and then we are all geared up for a win at Wembley.

Bring it on...

 

[MikeL]

sorry mate but i've got to get rid of some negativity somewhere! hate to say this but i lost some respect for rosler yesterday. to see his players bickering over a penalty yet again made me sick.

football aside, best wishes to your forthcoming new family member

Thanks mate. Mind you my son is in the same position as he is a Watford supporter!!!!

 

[ed_case]

Get a grip?!
I'm not ashamed to admit I left the ground in tears.
Got home and went straight to bed.
Still feel totally numb and dejected.
It's the culmination of years of enduring failure at the last hurdle. This being the cruellest end of them all.

Sick thing is I will go to Swindon home and away and put myself through all of this again.

 

[eaglebee]

In the cold light of day and after a nights reflection, we just weren’t good enough yesterday, (the penalty debate is a different issue as there was little Uwe could do about it from the touchline) we played poorly and gave in without a real fight, there were to many simple errors, still, we must keep our chins up as we have another bite of the cherry, that's something teams finishing 7th and downwards don't have, lets now be positive and get behind the team and forget yesterday, we can't wind the clock back and its now history, onwards and upwards.

 

[Brain-dead Bee]

As this is my 49th season, I've had my share of pain over the years, but yesterday was arguably the worst single moment in that time - many worse games and it's overall been a good season, but one kick from promotion is a terrible memory... only the play-off penalty loss to Huddersfield was similar.

BUT, we now have to try to be more positive. I'm not happy with the stick being given to Trotta, Kev, Rosler etc in other threads in case that leads to getting on players' backs as soon as there's a bad moment in the play-offs

 

[jlove]

Just about all the time I've supported Brentford we're been wedded to third-tier football. I saw the 67-68 season with all the financial dealings and watched that other lot get promotion and a Cup; I went through the 94-95 season, with the ultimate disappointment in a one-off rejigging of the divisions. Yesterday we never looked like winning but for 1 minute of the 96 but we've finished at the top of the play-off group. The manager and back-room staff have an enormous job to do but contrast that with the job that the managers of the other play-off contenders need to do. Can we do it? Yes, we can!

 

[Nada Bee]

Im sick of SSN this morning, im changing the channel.

 

[Owlsmoor_Bee]

As this is my 49th season, I've had my share of pain over the years, but yesterday was arguably the worst single moment in that time - many worse games and it's overall been a good season, but one kick from promotion is a terrible memory... only the play-off penalty loss to Huddersfield was similar.

BUT, we now have to try to be more positive. I'm not happy with the stick being given to Trotta, Kev, Rosler etc in other threads in case that leads to getting on players' backs as soon as there's a bad moment in the play-offs

Agree completely. The ONLY way to stop those 17 seconds yesterday becoming the worst moment supporting the Bees is for us to consign it to just another talking point of the season we finally won the Play Offs. We all have to get over it quickly, players, manager and fans alike.

 

[Frankenstein Bee]

I agree with Brain-dead, I was there yesterday and suffered the pain yet again with everyone else but I am astonished at the attacks on players and management , We have gone from we are all in this together on Saturday morning to who is to blame for ruining the dream. We know have posters on here slagging each other off slagging individual players and Uwe, come on the season isnt over as some seem to think it is, Yes I am down at the moment and trying to get my head around the play offs is hard but I have always thought we Brentford supporters are made of sterner stuff.Now is the time to really come together and leave the inquests until the season is over.

 

[Mince Pie]

RIGHT!

I didn't expect the bees to do it yesterday and I don't expect the bees to do it in the play offs however I do expect us to become a championship side when we move to our new stadium.

One thing that we can take from this season is that we have generated a decent income and whilst it may feel that we are cursed we ARE moving in the right direction.

I'm not positive about the immediate future but long term I am - which will make me sing my heart out at The County, GP and Wembley!

YOU REEEEEEEEDDDDDDDSSSS!!!!!!

 

[beenthere]

I think this thread, and all these posts are an excellent way for us all to rationalise our feelings, and thoughts on yesterday's result.
I wasn't there, so have only the radio commentary and all your posts to go by. I haven't been able to watch or listen since due to my geographic location and my desire not to upset myself further.
Someone has made the point that the penalty fiasco and our overall performance should be seen as two separate issues and I think this is right.
Regarding the penalty, it seems to me pretty basic stuff that there had to have been an agreed penalty taker, and a stand by if the first choice was off the pitch. I don't see how the designated penalty taker could have been Trotta, therefore the captain should have been strong enough not to allow him to take the kick. Either that or the designated taker lost his nerve. Whatever the real reason, it seems to me that somewhere there must have been some indecisive behaviour. For those who were there, was there really an argument between Kev and Trotta? if so why do you think Kev didn't exert his authority?
Regarding the overall performance, Doncaster were not promotion candidates for no reason, so we shouldn't knock ourselves out over not beating them. they did what they set out to do, and we would have done the same in their position.
Finally, we would all have taken a play off place as a successful season, as it is it has been a great season and we can still get promoted. So basically, I'm with Jockbee, see you at Wembley.

 

[smiffy superbee]

Naturally disappointed .......especially with an unexpected chance to snatch it at the death..... but apparently we didn't play to our strengths (on the deck) or do enough to win it in the 90mins.
Penalties have been missed, and will continue to be missed, by far better players than Trotta....so don't crucify him.
But Hey.......we weren't relegated, in fact we were the third best team out of twenty-four.....not too shabby in my book.
.......and, we still have a chance to go up via the play-offs!
Just a bit more potency required up front......and we'd be a b****y good team.
So, get the disappointment in perspective.......we are improving all the time.
Get behind the lads, there's still all to play for.
Wemberley, wemberley :bound:

 

[taxi driver]

Good post Roy! Those who weren't at the game will never know just how it felt, but life does go on, even for Bees fans this morning.

Nonsense IMO
Some of us not at the game know this feeling only too well.

 

[taxi driver]

Felt ok yesterday. Probably because it's what I expected. There's no new or old Brentford. There's just Brentford.

Woke up at 5 this morning feeling terrible. However, I've had a rush of positivity and genuinely think we are gonna win the POs.

Can you please have a word with your mate NorthamptonBee and get him on board?

Thanks in advance.

 

[Malcybee]

I think a lot of people have lost a lot of respect for you starting a thread with this title less than an hour after the final whistle.

You have totally failed to appreciate the misery and despair of Brentford fans.

If you had been at Griffin Park at the final whistle you would have seen faces of men women and children all with a haunted thousand yard stare.

'Get a grip' would not have been an appropriate thing to say.

I hope you are man enough to realise being hundred of miles away from the event you showed poor judgement so soon after the disastrous end to the match.

What a fantastic description, Thousand Yard Stare. That helpless feeling of utter shock and not believing what I witnessed will stay with me for a long time. Time after time I am playing that moment back. One day I will be able to play it through my mind without pain. Peolple who don't understand football culture will never understand. I love this game and I love my club. I know I love them because of the pain I felt yesterday. Good luck Donny. Your game plan yesterday was excellent. My favourite yorkshire club by a far.

 

[TW3Bee]

I know what you mean! I'm looking for counselling after what I went through yesterday

Maybe BFC should employ one the amount of times we've been through this kind of stuff.

 

[shouldbee]

It's the end of season dinner tonight, will be interesting to see how the players are ?...........maybe it should be renamed the Big Red Balls up

 

[NorthamptonBee]

Can you please have a word with your mate NorthamptonBee and get him on board?

Thanks in advance.

He's dragged me down all season with his tantrums and you think he'll pick me up!!

Mate, I'm "out" and BFC "out" for the POs, if we get to Wembley I'll probably turn up.
Two games that have killed me this season have been Shrewsbury away where it was all Muff talk and hope we escape unscathed with no yellow cards, we got a pony 0-0 and to use the Wealdstone Raider for a second "We played sh*t and we've got no fans." Hartlepool was a joke, a massive game but we didn't turn up in numbers and we played a joke side. Donny or Muff would have filled that end but we were nowhere near. Add that bollox yesterday and I think I've had my fill, tired and pissed off but I hope we win the bloody thing.

 

[shouldbee]

I think a lot of people have lost a lot of respect for you starting a thread with this title less than an hour after the final whistle.

You have totally failed to appreciate the misery and despair of Brentford fans.

If you had been at Griffin Park at the final whistle you would have seen faces of men women and children all with a haunted thousand yard stare.

'Get a grip' would not have been an appropriate thing to say.

I hope you are man enough to realise being hundred of miles away from the event you showed poor judgement so soon after the disastrous end to the match.

Agree................We don't need threads started from people who didn't attend the match :mad1:

 

[maddogging]

He's dragged me down all season with his tantrums and you think he'll pick me up!!

Mate, I'm "out" and BFC "out" for the POs, if we get to Wembley I'll probably turn up.
Two games that have killed me this season have been Shrewsbury away where it was all Muff talk and hope we escape unscathed with no yellow cards, we got a pony 0-0 and to use the Wealdstone Raider for a second "We played sh*t and we've got no fans." Hartlepool was a joke, a massive game but we didn't turn up in numbers and we played a joke side. Donny or Muff would have filled that end but we were nowhere near. Add that bollox yesterday and I think I've had my fill, tired and pissed off but I hope we win the bloody thing.

You say that but when Muff went to Shrewsbury two weeks ago I thought that end would be rammed, it wasn't at all.

 

[TuckerBee]

Nonsense IMO
Some of us not at the game know this feeling only too well.

No mate yesterday was worse then any of the previous failures no way would you understand how bad yesterday was unless you were there to witness it.

 

[Plug One]

No mate yesterday was worse then any of the previous failures no way would you understand how bad yesterday was unless you were there to witness it.

Agreed. For me it was such a bitter pill, especially at the fact that In my opinion, Doncaster weren't that good on the day. They were there for the beating.

 

[maddogging]

When I saw Oliver point to the spot I had to get out of there, I sat on the steps up to the boardroom with my head in my hands, heard the whistle then the collective groan, I was gone, totally gone, just a bizarre feeling.
How long was actually played after the restart, I keep thinking had we scored would there still have been time for donny to equalise?

 

[JimP]

It just occurred to me that yesterday could have been worse. Imagine if we'd won at Hartlepool and a draw against Donny would have been enough. Then replay yesterday's events!! And I know it wouldn't have happened that way because the game would have been different... but it helps ease the pain a bit to realise there could have been a worse scenario!

 

[dbee3]

It just occurred to me that yesterday could have been worse. Imagine if we'd won at Hartlepool and a draw against Donny would have been enough. Then replay yesterday's events!! And I know it wouldn't have happened that way because the game would have been different... but it helps ease the pain a bit to realise there could have been a worse scenario!

I doubt the players would have basically all gone up for the penalty or dropped to the floor as they did rather than run back to defend as Doncaster broke.

 

[taxi driver]

Agreed. For me it was such a bitter pill, especially at the fact that In my opinion, Doncaster weren't that good on the day. They were there for the beating.

There are other walks of life where hope and despair collide,sometimes even more spectaularly.

It happens in other sports too.

 

[Dazza]

I feel numb still.

 

[Boscombe Bee]

Typical Bees supporters fighting amongst ourselves! Why cant someone be allowed to try and lift spirits? The 'you dont understand because you wernt there' is utter BS. There are many reasons why people wernt there yesterday, anything from distance, work commitments, having a 12000 capacity ground, or for example, one regular poster here lost a work colleague in a dreadful incident in the New Forest Friday. We are all Bees supporters, we are all one family. We are there to celebrate together, we are also there to pick each other up. I do wonder sometimes here whether some people would rather restrict admission to games to season ticket holders only as anyone else is not deemed worthy enough.

 

[wibs]

You're missing the point.
No-one is blaming anyone for not being thethere, people are simply saying somehow this was something unlike all the other heartache people have experienced.

Therefore if you weren't there I don't think you actually can imagine what it's like, and simply lump it in with big game defeats previously suffered.

 

[TuckerBee]

You're missing the point.
No-one is blaming anyone for not being thethere, people are simply saying somehow this was something unlike all the other heartache people have experienced.

Therefore if you weren't there I don't think you actually can imagine what it's like, and simply lump it in with big game defeats previously suffered.

Exactly I'm still in bits after yesterday & I don't need someone telling me to get a grip who was not even at the game. Having said that I'm sure in another 24 hrs I will get a grip and be super positive again & up for the playoffs.

 

[Dazza]

You're missing the point.
No-one is blaming anyone for not being thethere, people are simply saying somehow this was something unlike all the other heartache people have experienced.

Therefore if you weren't there I don't think you actually can imagine what it's like, and simply lump it in with big game defeats previously suffered.

This really, no blame to anyone that wasn't there, but you can't understand the amount of people I saw with Thousand Yard Stare - I think I've still got it myself.

 

[wanderer paul]

You're missing the point.
No-one is blaming anyone for not being there, people are simply saying somehow this was something unlike all the other heartache people have experienced.

Therefore if you weren't there I don't think you actually can imagine what it's like, and simply lump it in with big game defeats previously suffered.

Personally, I think the thread was titled to be positive and not negative, "Get a grip........." on yourselves, we have 2 games to come and hopefully a 3rd. Trying to be positive.

Yes, it's probably the biggest disappointment in my 40 years, but we are still in with a shout, as are the 3 other clubs. We can all dissect what happened yesterday and give opinions on certain players, but this squad has 2 huge games coming up, they will need us once again. Don't give up on them now.

 

[JumboJet]

Well, I was there, and yes I was absolutely shell shocked. I wasn't happy at Trotta refusing to put the ball down and arguing with Kev. In truth, I wasn't 'happy' with anyone taking such a high pressure penalty, as I was nervous anyone could fluff it in the circumstances.

Pretty swiftly though, I have forced myself to pull myself together. I have seen it all before. One thing I can tell you all is that if Brentford win at Wembley, it will be all the sweeter for it - fact. A chance to lay the ghosts of play-offs past to rest, put the 'curse' behind us, and rejoice all summer. Who amongst us would't relish the chance to stick 2 fingers up at Kitson - Tony Craig to score the winner and put the records straight.

 

[nanny58]

I dislike m lange even more now ucking play offs just pure greed evenmore ??

 

[Beesfan]

I am trying to get a grip but it feels even worse today....I just can't comprehend what happened yesterday. I was walking around Tesco's this morning in a daze!! I am not looking forward to work tomorrow and people asking me about the game.....just gotta put it out of my head. It would have been so much easier if we had just played out a nil nil draw.

 

[taxi driver]

I am trying to get a grip but it feels even worse today....I just can't comprehend what happened yesterday. I was walking around Tesco's this morning in a daze!! I am not looking forward to work tomorrow and people asking me about the game.....just gotta put it out of my head. It would have been so much easier if we had just played out a nil nil draw.

I understand what you say but I would rather have the chance to **** it up than not have that chance at all .

 

[GlasgowBee]

It is impossible to understand the experience of those at the game, I always feel sorry for the kids who have to suffer such heartache. I was at home in Glasgow and had to watch Paul Walsh describe what was happening with the New Road behind him, nothing compared to being there but still painful to experience.

Yes we were close, bloody close, the width of a cross bar, but our glass is still half full, we still have the chance to have our hearts completely ripped out during the play-offs.

It's so easy to scapegoat Trotta but its a cheap shot, he was a brave bugger and that should be respected, if he had scored he would be a lifelong hero, now he's a villan, don't vilify someone for having bottle and balls the size of bristol.

The great penalty decision making conspiracy theory only drains energy which should go in a better direction. Hands up who has never f**ked up at work - its just that most of us do not do a job in front of a baying crowd, tv cameras and so much expectation.

This does hurt for every bees fan, there will always be those that try to put themselves at the top of the misery pile and exclude others so that their pain and angst is more valid, once you get a wife you will realise you are an amateur at such dramatics, so to those I will acknowledge your pain with a yes dear approach.

Swindon will be fun won't it.....come on you reds