Gibbo - merged threads

[JTofBFC]

Exactly like Martin Rowlands, he certainly has/had the potential but it just hasn't worked out for him here but if he can have a few injury free seasons then I'm sure somebody will get some money for him. Just a shame it wasn't us.

Not sure I agree with the "it hasn't worked out for him" sentiment. He came here as an unknown from Non-League and has developed into one of the better midfielders in the league. I don't think too many of those criticising him would have had the same view if his goal against Reading last May turned out to be the winner.

As it is, it seems to be a case of thanks for being one of our stars for the last few years , but as you got sent off a couple of times now you can just ***k off.

One of the main criticisms against Rowlands is that he is only good for about 25 games a season on average. At least they are 25 good games, unlike Eddie H for example who played about 15 times last year and was totally non-descript in about 12 of them. Seems he warrants a new contract though. Bizarre.

Anyway, I'm glad you have confidence that Wally will snap up better players than Gibbo in the close season. I hope he shows a bit more enthusiasm for showing them where to sign on the dotted line than he did when we were crying out for a Loan signing up front last January.

Lowest shot numbers on target all season in the whole league.

Relegation form since November 2002.

No money for new signings or even to keep our better players on.

No desire to sign players who are willing to take a wage cut to play for the club.

....................and still people are talking about the play offs next year.

Get real. (or at least lets get our rookie manager a bit of proper support instead of the statue that stands next to him every week with his arms crossed)

 

[Debbee]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Typical male response....

i'm sorry, i'll restrain from ever trying to use humour on here again, it is obviously not appreciated

The humour was fine it's just I wanted to make a point that not every time a girl says she likes a player...it's coz she fancies them.

I'd like to think I've a got a sense of humour....don't stop Dan..please, it's just I had a bee in my bonnet (excuse the pun) about this particular subject!

 

[Mr Cynical]

Not sure I agree with the "it hasn't worked out for him" sentiment. He came here as an unknown from Non-League and has developed into one of the better midfielders in the league. I don't think too many of those criticising him would have had the same view if his goal against Reading last May turned out to be the winner.

Anyway, I'm glad you have confidence that Wally will snap up better players than Gibbo in the close season. I hope he shows a bit more enthusiasm for showing them where to sign on the dotted line than he did when we were crying out for a Loan signing up front last January.

Lowest shot numbers on target all season in the whole league.

Relegation form since November 2002.

No money for new signings or even to keep our better players on.

No desire to sign players who are willing to take a wage cut to play for the club.

....................and still people are talking about the play offs next year.

Get real. (or at least lets get our rookie manager a bit of proper support instead of the statue that stands next to him every week with his arms crossed)

Interesting couple of points. I think it's fair to say it hasn't worked out for him here because he's obviously fallen out with the manager and because he's rarely managed a full season. I personally think he's one of the best players we've had when he's been fit and not suspended, but obviously Wally feels he's not going to get a full season out of him and I suspect we couldn't afford him now anyway. Great shame but there you go.

I don't necessarily have any confidence that we'll snap up any players in the summer. I just feel that if we do it'll be on their footballing ability rather than their performance on a computer...

Also, I haven't heard anybody talking about play offs next year and I'd be very surprised if I did. It's obvious to everyone that next season's going to be just as difficult, if not more, as this season, but it's something we have to go through if we want to secure the long term future of the club. I'd happily take a couple of lean seasons if it means we'll end up on a better footing in an exciting new stadium....

As for rookie managers, well fair enough, he is a rookie. This has been his first season, and at times we've done quite well but at other times his lack of experience has certainly shown. The question is has he learnt from this first season, if he has then I think we might be alright. If he hasn't then obviously we're going to be in trouble..

 

[Mr Tree]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Typical male response....

The humour was fine it's just I wanted to make a point that not every time a girl says she likes a player...it's coz she fancies them.

I'd like to think I've a got a sense of humour....don't stop Dan..please, it's just I had a bee in my bonnet (excuse the pun) about this particular subject!

good, i was starting to worry you really were getting mad about it

it was only a joke, and only cos u made three or four posts slobbering on about how "good" he was...... lol

 

[Nigel Brooks]

Gibbo - at a price......

...we can afford.

The Chronny says (p.38) this week that (much needed) mature player and all round good bloke Gibbo would be willing to return to the hallowed turf for "less than £500 a week".

Barnsley need to cut costs and I would love to see him back in the (only) red and white, perhaps in a player/coach role setting him up for the future.

Not the greatest technician, and I am sure that Paul would agree to that, but plays with commitment, passion and "not a quiet bloke" (much needed to encourage and spur-on the youngsters).

Is there any reason, given that we are likely to lose one or more of the 'high-earners' that we should not sign Gibbo? Can't think of one, but would welcome your comments.

 

[-superbees2k3-]

We can get a better left back/midfielder for less than that i feel, possibly even with as much passion.

 

[homerbees]

Can i ask why Paul Gibbs is loved so much at Brentford?

i know he is liked at Torquay through my old man, but he seems to be loved at Brentford. I would love him back at gp by the way!

 

[Sweepy]

Can i ask why Paul Gibbs is loved so much at Brentford?

He plays with passion and determination without constantly getting sent off. (Unlike Fullarton)

Knows the meaning of loyalty. Reluctantly left Griffin Park when it became clear that the manager at the time felt his future lied elsewhere. (Unlike Jason Price, Evo, Ingimarsson, and so on and so on and so on who thought they were too big for this club)

A natural captain with his personality (Unlike the more reserved Dobbo)

The ultimate decision lies with the Wally. I'm not as excited as some over Gibbo's potential return, but I believe such a move would boost morale and enthusiasm throughout the club.

 

[PAZ]

Re: Gibbo - at a price......

...we can afford.

The Chronny says (p.38) this week that (much needed) mature player and all round good bloke Gibbo would be willing to return to the hallowed turf for "less than £500 a week".

Barnsley need to cut costs and I would love to see him back in the (only) red and white, perhaps in a player/coach role setting him up for the future.

Not the greatest technician, and I am sure that Paul would agree to that, but plays with commitment, passion and "not a quiet bloke" (much needed to encourage and spur-on the youngsters).

Is there any reason, given that we are likely to lose one or more of the 'high-earners' that we should not sign Gibbo? Can't think of one, but would welcome your comments.

Remember that £500 pw is at the higher end of our salarly scale.

If we paid Paul anything like that much, it would be suggesting he was on of our best players... not true, although it might be next season!

IMO, we can't afford him, and if we could, there are many other positions that need filling/strengthening before we get him.

I'm a huge fan of his, but we need every £500 we've got.

 

[Edmundo]

Can i ask why Paul Gibbs is loved so much at Brentford?

There can't have been another player in the 25 years I've been following the Bees who has loved the club so much. He'll take a pay cut to come back and wear the red and white. And remember his sterling efforts at the BU fundraising auction. If the manager thinks he's good enough to get in the side (and I don't want to second guess him on that), then there is no-one I'd rather cheer on to do the business for the team I love.

 

[Pinch]

He plays with passion and determination without constantly getting sent off. (Unlike Fullarton)

Knows the meaning of loyalty. Reluctantly left Griffin Park when it became clear that the manager at the time felt his future lied elsewhere. (Unlike Jason Price, Evo, Ingimarsson, and so on and so on and so on who thought they were too big for this club)

A natural captain with his personality (Unlike the more reserved Dobbo)

The ultimate decision lies with the Wally. I'm not as excited as some over Gibbo's potential return, but I believe such a move would boost morale and enthusiasm throughout the club.

I think that's near enough spot on about Gibbo.

 

[Stanley]

Re: Gibbo - at a price......

...we can afford.


Is there any reason, given that we are likely to lose one or more of the 'high-earners' that we should not sign Gibbo? Can't think of one, but would welcome your comments.

Given he can only really play left back or ( at a pinch) left midfield I can think of maybe five....Fieldwick, Frampton,Evans,Hughes (well he might be good) and Tabb....and of course if all else fails there is Mat ( nearly Welsh U21) Somner!!

Our priorities I would have thought are up front and a Rowly type replacement. If we have £500pw to spare why not up the offer to Hunt to stay, then we'd have six reasons. Unlike England we are not currently short of left footed players.

 

[Edmundo]

And another thing ... you know the way that ex-players have a habit of scoring when they play their former clubs? It's not just us, all teams seem to suffer this phenomenon. But when Barnsley played us, their manager had to dream up excuses to leave him out - no doubt fearing that his heart wouldn't be in playing against the super Bees.

 

[Holysmit]

If its true that Hunty has rejected our contract offer and is not going to get a better offer then Gibbo would be an extra signing as honestly do we want to waste the talents of Evans or Tabb on the left wing when they are much better suitted to playing in the middle? Furthermore those players aside do we have anyone else who can play left wing? Gibbo would be a good back up for left wing (not back but of course if were desperatly short all of a sudden) if Hunty does resign.

 

[Mr Cynical]

Great bloke I'm sure, if he loves Brentford as much as everyone says then fair play to him.

Sadly though, he's not a very good footballer, also we'd be much better off spending that money on a creative midfielder/winger or a striker, positions where we actually NEED players rather than getting an extra squad player in in a position where we already have 3 squad players.......

 

[Mr Cynical]

Knows the meaning of loyalty. Reluctantly left Griffin Park when it became clear that the manager at the time felt his future lied elsewhere. (Unlike Jason Price, Evo, Ingimarsson, and so on and so on and so on who thought they were too big for this club)

He still left though didn't he? And well before the likes of Evo and Ingimarsson who stayed on to the bitter end....

 

[Sweepy]

He still left though didn't he? And well before the likes of Evo and Ingimarsson who stayed on to the bitter end....

He was transfer-listed (on a free) at the time for crying out loud!

 

[Nigel Brooks]

He still left though didn't he? And well before the likes of Evo and Ingimarsson who stayed on to the bitter end....

He never wanted to leave, and was gutted when put on the list.

There may be better players, but few (available ex-Bees) that display the maturity we lack so badly.

 

[Sweepy]

I think that's near enough spot on about Gibbo.

...and you are spot on about Sissy as well :yes:

 

[West Ealing Bee]

He may be at a price we can afford but apparantly he is 'a coward'.

 

[Mr Cynical]

He was transfer-listed (on a free) at the time for crying out loud!

Who wasn't?

 

[Sweepy]

Who wasn't?

Darren Powell

 

[Mr Cynical]

Darren Powell

Yeh, but he was GOOD!!!

 

[solobee]

We have a very limited budget , so shouldn't we use that to try and find new talent?
We know what he can do and his level is probably bottom div 2/div 3 at best.

 

[Brentford Bob]

Oh gawd, here we go again.

How many times have we been over this in the past few months?

And why hasn't this thread been merged with the countless others about Mr Gibbs? Could it possibly be because Ed and German Bee are Paul's friends?

Just call me Mr Cynical.

 

[Brickie Chap]

Oh gawd, here we go again.

How many times have we been over this in the past few months?

And why hasn't this thread been merged with the countless others about Mr Gibbs? Could it possibly be because Ed and German Bee are Paul's friends?

Just call me Mr Cynical.

I am with you on this, merge these bloody threads

 

[Edmundo]

Just call me Mr Cynical.

Does that mean we can call Mr Cynical, "Brentford Bob"?

 

[Brickie Chap]

Ed demonstrating his selective eyesight again, what a surprise

 

[Brickie Chap]

Well done Ed