Going down, going down....

[NorthamptonBee]

I have never sung this song at any other team. I'm all up for loads of banter and will respond to death threats from behind the safety of a barrier, some police and the stewards but I have never sung this song. I probably will against Luton but I just feel that it's a situation we all find/have found ourselves in and is lower than low at fellow football fans. Yesterday I was only concerned with us going up. Am I going soft in my old age?

 

[SH]

For me, the difference between Football League and non-League is the key.

Would happily sing "Going Down" at most oppo in the Championship or League 1, but on the principle of 'do as you would be done by' I wouldn't wish relegation from the top 92 on anyone (other than QPR obviously). Dread to think how awful it would be starting the season in the Blue Square, with trips to Histon, Crawley, Kidderminster and the like and no guarantee of ever getting to scenes of past glory (or misery) ever again... Personally hope Luton, and the likes of Oxford, Cambridge, York and even Newport County all make their way back to the FL in time as it's like revisiting old mates.

 

[TW3Bee]

Go for it.

Are you telling me that Loo Town wouldn't do the same if the roles were reversed?

They would be giving us untold grief.

 

[NorthamptonBee]

Go for it.

Are you telling me that Loo Town wouldn't do the same if the roles were reversed?

They would be giving us untold grief.

Luton are different, I would sing it happily at them and Fulham.

 

[Brickie Chap]

Luton deserve all the abuse they will get but lets not forget Brentford deserve our support first and foremost

 

[GEOFFBEE]

I have never sung this song at any other team. I'm all up for loads of banter and will respond to death threats from behind the safety of a barrier, some police and the stewards but I have never sung this song. I probably will against Luton but I just feel that it's a situation we all find/have found ourselves in and is lower than low at fellow football fans. Yesterday I was only concerned with us going up. Am I going soft in my old age?

No.You might just be learning to behave more responsibly, my friend!
To my mind, chanting abuse at the opposition is a complete waste of time and energy, and does nothing whatsoever to encourage our own team.And that, surely, as Brentford supporters is what we should all focus on ...

 

[Edmundo]

I would guess that the most appropriate chant to direct at Luton would be, "Non-league scum - off our pitch!"

 

[Ace Face]

I would do anything that doesn`t upset the mascots.

I think we should try and cheer on the BEES, but may bite after some friendly chants from the Loooton.

 

[NorthamptonBee]

I wasn't talking about Luton.I was talking about Muff and others this year, I've seen us relegated a few times and you see some snidey git singing that to you from a safe distance. Luton are different.

 

[Sweepy]

Accrington could be the game we win promotion. By the time Luton comes along, the job will hopefully be done. Yet one game is all-ticket and the other isn't.

And the reason? Because there will be 10,000 others, just like Northampton Bee, that will be making sure the Luton fans are well aware their little club are going into the Non-League.

We have got the gig that 91 other clubs in the league would have sold their grannies for - to play against Luton for their last Football League game. And we wont waste it.

 

[GEOFFBEE]

Accrington could be the game we win promotion. By the time Luton comes along, the job will hopefully be done. Yet one game is all-ticket and the other isn't.

And the reason? Because there will be 10,000 others, just like Northampton Bee, that will be making sure the Luton fans are well aware their little club are going into the Non-League.

We have got the gig that 91 other clubs in the league would have sold their grannies for - to play against Luton for their last Football League game. And we wont waste it.

Frankly, I think you would be wasting a much bigger opportunity- that of cheering your own team on at the end of ,hopefully, a very memorable season.
And that, I believe, is what the 10000 Bees fans will really be there for. And many fans of other clubs would certainly sell their grannies for that !

 

[wanderer paul]

Frankly, I think you would be wasting a much bigger opportunity- that of cheering your own team on at the end of ,hopefully, a very memorable season.
And that, I believe, is what the 10000 Bees fans will really be there for. And many fans of other clubs would certainly sell their grannies for that !

Bees fans can do both thank you very much.

I'll be 'abusing' Luton, the players and their supporters, as much as i'll be 'cheering' on the Bees and our players. Bollox to them, lets enjoy 'our moment' as they enjoyed theirs ripping into us at their ground a few years ago when they beat us after we were winning.

I'll never be pleasant to those dickheads.

 

[SH]

Bees fans can do both thank you very much.

I'll be 'abusing' Luton, the players and their supporters, as much as i'll be 'cheering' on the Bees and our players. Bollox to them, lets enjoy 'our moment' as they enjoyed theirs ripping into us at their ground a few years ago when they beat us after we were winning.

I'll never be pleasant to those dickheads.

I thought I'd managed to erase that game from my memory. 2-1 up with six minutes to go, then we get thumped 4-2. One of the all-time lows listening to them sing "2-1 and you f++cked it up" at full volume for what seemed like an eternity. What a difference four years can bring

http://www.lutonfc.com/gallery_champions_04-05.asp

 

[GEOFFBEE]

Bees fans can do both thank you very much.

I'll be 'abusing' Luton, the players and their supporters, as much as i'll be 'cheering' on the Bees and our players. Bollox to them, lets enjoy 'our moment' as they enjoyed theirs ripping into us at their ground a few years ago when they beat us after we were winning.

I'll never be pleasant to those dickheads.

Do you think your proposed course of action is responsible, and one that will reflect well on Brentford FC?
Do you think it will help our club in its quest to be regarded as a ' community club'?
Do you think your proposed 'abuse' of Luton fans will be appreciated by those of us taking families to this match ?
Do you think your proposed 'abuse' might just make things more difficult for the police and stewards, bearing in mind this fixture has been described as 'high risk'?
Do you think that your proposed' abuse' of Luton fans will actually help Andy Scott and our lads one iota?
Do you think, just because Luton have a few 'dickheads' , that you are justified in exacerbating a potentially inflammatory situation, that could well incur the wrath of the authorities? And could damage our club's standing with some of the resident's groups whose support we may need in connection with a new stadium?
Do you think that ' abusing ' Luton fans at a traumatic time for them will endear our club to the rest of football ?

 

[jlove]

The last home match of a season where we are promoted as champions is not the time or place for anything other than celebration of our club's achievements.

I, for one, do not give a stuff about Luton, their criminal history or their future in the Blue Square. The best thing we can do is revel in our success and ignore them.

 

[Mr Tree]

Do you think that ' abusing ' Luton fans at a traumatic time for them will endear our club to the rest of football ?

Yes

Will you calm down, dear, and have a bit of fun please

 

[GEOFFBEE]

Yes

Will you calm down, dear, and have a bit of fun please

My idea of fun is cheering on Brentford.
Hopefully, all of us can get our kicks from that, and that alone....

 

[cheekybee74]

Personally I am hoping we have multiple renditions of "we are the champions" to sing, if we get to watch KoC lift the trophy I couldn't give a XXXX about Luton....

however - how about "to the tune of Its a long way to Tipperary" - a chorus of its a long way to Salisbury City, its a long way to go ... ???

 

[jlove]

... its a long way to Salisbury City, its a long way to go ... ???

Not for me, it isn't!

 

[cheekybee74]

Not for me, it isn't!

Mmm - but Barrow didn't fit, despite being true.....

 

[wanderer paul]

Do you think your proposed course of action is responsible, and one that will reflect well on Brentford FC?
Do you think it will help our club in its quest to be regarded as a ' community club'?
Do you think your proposed 'abuse' of Luton fans will be appreciated by those of us taking families to this match ?
Do you think your proposed 'abuse' might just make things more difficult for the police and stewards, bearing in mind this fixture has been described as 'high risk'?
Do you think that your proposed' abuse' of Luton fans will actually help Andy Scott and our lads one iota?
Do you think, just because Luton have a few 'dickheads' , that you are justified in exacerbating a potentially inflammatory situation, that could well incur the wrath of the authorities? And could damage our club's standing with some of the resident's groups whose support we may need in connection with a new stadium?
Do you think that ' abusing ' Luton fans at a traumatic time for them will endear our club to the rest of football ?

er..................YES. That's why 'i love the Bees' and no other!!.

Bring it on................i can;t wait now for this one!

I hope Banana has been able to get that 'banner' sorted for the game.............just drop it after the game has kicked off!

 

[Phoenixkeeper]

Do you think your proposed course of action is responsible, and one that will reflect well on Brentford FC? - As long as they do not invade the pitch, throw missles, or racially abuse the opponents

Do you think it will help our club in its quest to be regarded as a ' community club'? - Being regarded as a community club is more to do with the work we do within the local community surely? Every ground, on every matchday, will have some form of baiting towards the opposing fan. It is often refered to as banter

Do you think your proposed 'abuse' of Luton fans will be appreciated by those of us taking families to this match ? - Surely you cannot be naive enough to take a family to a game and not expect a bit of fruity language / chanting whoever the opposition

Do you think your proposed 'abuse' might just make things more difficult for the police and stewards, bearing in mind this fixture has been described as 'high risk'? - Bearing in mind this fixture has already been described as high risk, should Luton Town only have made tickets available to their season tickets holders, on a one ticket per person basis?

Do you think that your proposed' abuse' of Luton fans will actually help Andy Scott and our lads one iota? - I am quite sure there will be an awful lot more support for the team, than virtriol directed at Luton supporters. I am also sure that Andy Scott and the players, as professionals, realise that this goes on at most games in one capacity or another.

Do you think, just because Luton have a few 'dickheads' , that you are justified in exacerbating a potentially inflammatory situation, that could well incur the wrath of the authorities? And could damage our club's standing with some of the resident's groups whose support we may need in connection with a new stadium? - As mentioned in the answer about ticketing, more could have been done at Lutons end to ensure the dickheads found it harder to get tickets.

Do you think that ' abusing ' Luton fans at a traumatic time for them will endear our club to the rest of football ? - I am pretty sure it has happened each and every season as teams get relegated. Again it is called banter and I am pretty sure the rest of football will not be too concerned about it.

Also, if you had been to Kenilworth Road supporting the Bees you would understand why a lot of us are not shedding any tears over Luton being relegated.

 

[GEOFFBEE]

Also, if you had been to Kenilworth Road supporting the Bees you would understand why a lot of us are not shedding any tears over Luton being relegated.

Look, I do have sympathy for you guys who have had a rough time at the hands of Luton idiots,( yes, I too have been on the recieving end of similar) but, for heavens sake, please do not spoil Brentford's big day, and don't do anything to exacerbate the situation.And, let us be honest, some on here are thinking of a lot worse than 'light banter'.
I believe the majority of our supporters have more 'class' than to stoop down to the level of some of the mindless morons...

 

[Phoenixkeeper]

I shall only be taking part in light banter, nothing more. As I take in most away trips with my Dad we tend to drive and enjoy a bite to eat and have never looked for trouble. Nearly always received a pleasant welcome from fans of all clubs around the country, except for Luton Town and Birmingham City!!

I will not be doing anything to spoil our ( hopefully ) big day, but will enjoy seeing Luton Town exit the league.

 

[GEOFFBEE]

I SHALL BE GETTING MY 'BANTEROMETER OUT'!

I shall only be taking part in light banter, nothing more. As I take in most away trips with my Dad we tend to drive and enjoy a bite to eat and have never looked for trouble. Nearly always received a pleasant welcome from fans of all clubs around the country, except for Luton Town and Birmingham City!!

I will not be doing anything to spoil our ( hopefully ) big day, but will enjoy seeing Luton Town exit the league.

Ok.Fair enough.
I believe you.
But, I shall be there with my ' banterometer' to check that you do not exceed the 'light banter' threshold lol

 

[Phoenixkeeper]

Ok.Fair enough.
I believe you.
But, I shall be there with my ' banterometer' to check that you do not exceed the 'light banter' threshold lol

Aren't they banned along with drums??

 

[GEOFFBEE]

Aren't they banned along with drums??

No problem. I will sneak it in .
You know me.I have no respect for authority...

 

[Markybee]

I know two Luton fans coming down from Cheshire. He is head onf a big UK Leisure Corporation and one of the nicest blokes you will ever meet. Not all their fans are scum, tas with all Clubs.

Although I'm in the minoity I hope they bounce back. Two years ago I remember saying to a few people how good the joyful times will be when they come back after this pain. Well they have come back and I have loved all of this season apart from the first game.

Its the armpit of the UK, a horrid ground too, yet we've had some good battles and I'm sure we'll meet them again within three seasons in something or other.

For my good friends sake alone, I hope their stay in non league is short, Sorry :shrug:

 

[GP200]

.....................time to dig out Status Quo....................deeper and down..................

 

[GABS]

It is a friggin football match for gawds sake, of course people will take the p!55 out of Luton, if that offends people then maybe a trip to see the Quins is a better option for them

 

[Lokster]

Despite my friendship with Luton fans I was at that game when we lost 4-2 and had to put up with them singing 'we'll never play you again' so I'm not going to feel too guilty - after all it is what you do is those situations - but I'm sure the focus will be on celebrating our achievements and enjoying what I am hoping will turn out to be a stress free day.

Then going out afterwards and getting drunk.

 

[Top Cat]

I hope those lovely riot police from the G20 are about after the game to prevent any of us getting a good kicking

 

[Westlad]

Accrington could be the game we win promotion. By the time Luton comes along, the job will hopefully be done. Yet one game is all-ticket and the other isn't.

And the reason? Because there will be 10,000 others, just like Northampton Bee, that will be making sure the Luton fans are well aware their little club are going into the Non-League.

We have got the gig that 91 other clubs in the league would have sold their grannies for - to play against Luton for their last Football League game. And we wont waste it.

The Luton is all ticket to stop Luton fans getting tickets in the home end, as much as anything else.

I'm sure the fans will get behind the team but there's nothing wrong with slagging off luton...ever

Maybe we could all invest in a RIP League 2 Flag

 

[TW3Bee]

I would guess that the most appropriate chant to direct at Luton would be, "Non-league scum - off our pitch!"

We have got the gig that 91 other clubs in the league would have sold their grannies for - to play against Luton for their last Football League game. And we wont waste it.

90 actually, but I get your point.

It is our duty to make sure they get the send off they deserve.

however - how about "to the tune of Its a long way to Tipperary" - a chorus of its a long way to Salisbury City, its a long way to go ... ???

Good one.

 

[Wise old Bee]

By and large we're fairly restrained at GP and dish out nothing like some of the vitriol I've seen directed against us at away games, Luton included. I think it's something to do with being from London/the South although it's verbal nowadays, in the past it took a more physical form. I don't doubt that most Luton supporters are the same as us and don't deserve what's happened to them but there has been needle between us in recent seasons and they are not going to get a sympathetic wave from us. Personally I hope Eastbourne do them next season.

 

[GEOFFBEE]

I know two Luton fans coming down from Cheshire. He is head onf a big UK Leisure Corporation and one of the nicest blokes you will ever meet. Not all their fans are scum, tas with all Clubs.

Although I'm in the minoity I hope they bounce back. Two years ago I remember saying to a few people how good the joyful times will be when they come back after this pain. Well they have come back and I have loved all of this season apart from the first game.

Its the armpit of the UK, a horrid ground too, yet we've had some good battles and I'm sure we'll meet them again within three seasons in something or other.

For my good friends sake alone, I hope their stay in non league is short, Sorry :shrug:

Well said, Mark! A man of courage.
And, unlike Gordon Brown, I do not think you need say sorry.
You love Brentford, and you love Football, and that is what outshines everything else.And you are a bloody good commentator as well....

 

[SmiffyBee]

Well said, Mark! A man of courage.
And, unlike Gordon Brown, I do not think you need say sorry.
You love Brentford, and you love Football, and that is what outshines everything else.And you are a bloody good commentator as well....

MarkyBee's ego just went into orbit

 

[Markybee]

MarkyBee's ego just went into orbit

It was already there, Barbie called me last night asking if my offer of an "overnight stay" for the match on Saturday was still on. Imagine how guilty I felt saying that I am temporarily attatched and my spare room isnt available this weekend.

I did, however, offer her the number of a sad, middle aged ladies man from Kettering. She made her excuses and terminated the call.

 

[GEOFFBEE]

It was already there, Barbie called me last night asking if my offer of an "overnight stay" for the match on Saturday was still on. Imagine how guilty I felt saying that I am temporarily attatched and my spare room isnt available this weekend.

I did, however, offer her the number of a sad, middle aged ladies man from Kettering. She made her excuses and terminated the call.

Well, you could have given her my number as well!
Theres gratitude for you......:sad:

 

[spratt01]

Also, if you had been to Kenilworth Road supporting the Bees you would understand why a lot of us are not shedding any tears over Luton being relegated.

I take approx 15-20 disabled kids to every home game and they love the chanting and reaction with opposition supporters ( see us under the scoreboard in Braemar road )

As for the Brentford Community we have the best spirit within our club than anyone my son was mascot at Bournemouth at the week-end the big lad that led the team out ,we also had 20 kids at Bournemouth all this with the help of Brenford in the community so praise only for our fan base

So whatever the fans do against Luton as long as it on the right side of the law is alright with me a life long Bees fan

We wont see Luton for about 8 years so bring it on we will be champions by then so it will be celebration time at GP

 

[GEOFFBEE]

I take approx 15-20 disabled kids to every home game and they love the chanting and reaction with opposition supporters ( see us under the scoreboard in Braemar road )

As for the Brentford Community we have the best spirit within our club than anyone my son was mascot at Bournemouth at the week-end the big lad that led the team out ,we also had 20 kids at Bournemouth all this with the help of Brenford in the community so praise only for our fan base

So whatever the fans do against Luton as long as it on the right side of the law is alright with me a life long Bees fan

We wont see Luton for about 8 years so bring it on we will be champions by then so it will be celebration time at GP

It is great that people like you give up time to look after the disabled kids etc, so well done.
I bet their 'vocabulary' has ,er, improved as a result?!

 

[Sweepy]

I know two Luton fans coming down from Cheshire. He is head onf a big UK Leisure Corporation and one of the nicest blokes you will ever meet. Not all their fans are scum, tas with all Clubs.

Although I'm in the minoity I hope they bounce back. Two years ago I remember saying to a few people how good the joyful times will be when they come back after this pain. Well they have come back and I have loved all of this season apart from the first game.

Its the armpit of the UK, a horrid ground too, yet we've had some good battles and I'm sure we'll meet them again within three seasons in something or other.

For my good friends sake alone, I hope their stay in non league is short, Sorry :shrug:

I understand what you're saying. For the genuine fans, such as the old guy who was interviewed who travelled 250 miles from Portsmouth to see every game, I felt gutted for him.

But the sort of people you talk about Marky wont be the ones who get wound up over the chanting. That is directed towards the very special category of Luton neanderthal, of which I am sure there are many.

 

[daddybee]

Gotta say I couldn't care less about Luton one way or the other, my only interest is Brentford. The thing that gets me is that all the gobby BFC oiks that give it large & wind 'em all up are the ones that are nowhere to be seen at the end when the Luton massive come looking for retribution. Like at the Bury game when a few Man Ure fans were in town ready for their game the following day and came to our match.................and then picked on all the olds & kids walking down New Rd afterwards.
Feck Luton, just enjoy an all too rare celebration of Bees greatness

 

[Kettering Bee]

It was already there, Barbie called me last night asking if my offer of an "overnight stay" for the match on Saturday was still on. Imagine how guilty I felt saying that I am temporarily attatched and my spare room isnt available this weekend.

I did, however, offer her the number of a sad, middle aged ladies man from Kettering. She made her excuses and terminated the call.

Righto, another unprovoked attack. No problem, it's logged and will be dealt with in the usual way. Be careful out there matey, the world can be such a dangerous place!

 

[Markybee]

Righto, another unprovoked attack. No problem, it's logged and will be dealt with in the usual way. Be careful out there matey, the world can be such a dangerous place!

How would I know you live in Kettering? :shrug:

 

[TW3Bee]

For the genuine fans, such as the old guy who was interviewed who travelled 250 miles from Portsmouth to see every game, I felt gutted for him.

I was laughing at him, and so are his own fans.